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« Reply #315 on: June 07, 2012, 10:43:AM »
Susan,,the same man probably wouldn't even swat a fly,,let alone slaughter 5 people. It's ridiculous.

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« Reply #316 on: June 07, 2012, 10:53:AM »
Hi lookout I do agree I would not think Jeremy has the profile of a killer he seemed more intent on playing around and I think quite immature and did crave attention but not the kind he got.

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« Reply #317 on: June 07, 2012, 12:08:PM »
Hi lookout I do agree I would not think Jeremy has the profile of a killer he seemed more intent on playing around and I think quite immature and did crave attention but not the kind he got.
The desperation by some to defame Jeremy included stories of him driving his tractor dressed like Adam Ant.  What on earth was that about, even if he did I shouldn't imagine for one minute that would incriminate him is 5 murders.  No, it's true Susie he was no different from many priviledged kids, he was too busy having a good time.  As for the caravan breakin, I would think that was the sort of stupid thing many young people have done in different ways....shoplifting etc., a bit of excitement, just to see if they could.   When your'e young and priviledged, you can feel invincible.

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« Reply #318 on: June 07, 2012, 01:56:PM »
Hi Susan,,after that massacre,,he'd have been miles away.

Had he killed them and then fled he would instantly have been the number one suspect and would have gained nothing. The day after the murders he was at the family solicitor (says Wikes) discussing finances. That I find a little strange!

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« Reply #319 on: June 07, 2012, 02:01:PM »
The following week in front of the relatives entered his parents room and also sheilas while he was at WHF.

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« Reply #320 on: June 07, 2012, 02:09:PM »
Hi ajdross I think personally he was an immature young man and if he did go to the Solicitors the day after the killings he would need to know what was the position about paying for the funerals etc and the farm workers and other staff would still want paying.  He considered himself the man who had to take charge I don,t find it strange if indeed it is true. He was the only family member left to see to the affairs.

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« Reply #321 on: June 07, 2012, 02:10:PM »
i wonder where jackie is ? she might have a lot of incoming through twitter.

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« Reply #322 on: June 07, 2012, 02:14:PM »
Hi ajdross I think personally he was an immature young man and if he did go to the Solicitors the day after the killings he would need to know what was the position about paying for the funerals etc and the farm workers and other staff would still want paying.  He considered himself the man who had to take charge I don,t find it strange if indeed it is true. He was the only family member left to see to the affairs.
Good point susan, a working farm and caravan site can not run on nothing, what was he supposed to do nothing, not one of the family solicitors came forward with concernes about jeremy why should they.

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« Reply #323 on: June 07, 2012, 02:17:PM »
Hi ajdross I think personally he was an immature young man and if he did go to the Solicitors the day after the killings he would need to know what was the position about paying for the funerals etc and the farm workers and other staff would still want paying.  He considered himself the man who had to take charge I don,t find it strange if indeed it is true. He was the only family member left to see to the affairs.
True susie, also shock and trauma can have really strange effects on people, some become calm and move almost in a trance doing what needs to be done, while others scream and weep and others laugh and joke.  You can't judge someone in total trauma.  It may have been the only way he could function at all to concentrate on almost unimportant things but also as you say susie, the finances had to be sorted.  None of us know how we'd behave and cope in such a situation, at some point Jeremy had to be propped up with valium as well as drinking alcohol and smoking cannabis.  Where his head was then, goodness only knows, it's a lethal dose and I would guess he must have hallucinated with the valium and the alcohol...... 
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« Reply #324 on: June 07, 2012, 02:28:PM »
Hi Maggie

I think different people react differently Jeremy was only a boy really and suddenly he may have felt important everything was now resting on his shoulders and instead of weeping and wailing he behaved in a practical manner if we can believe of course about it being the day after and got on with things he was doped up with valium and other things so all his emotions would have been subdued it is a well known fact that the like of valium subdues your feelings.  Poor Jeremy.

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« Reply #325 on: June 07, 2012, 02:40:PM »
mertoll had jeremy done nothing he would have been scorned for that he could not win

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« Reply #326 on: June 07, 2012, 02:43:PM »
mertoll  I have been wondering where Jackie has gone it does not seem right without her Jackie please come and join us we are missing you :) :) :)

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Re: Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF
« Reply #327 on: June 07, 2012, 02:45:PM »
Had he killed them and then fled he would instantly have been the number one suspect and would have gained nothing. The day after the murders he was at the family solicitor (says Wikes) discussing finances. That I find a little strange!

Nothing strange about that,Ross. Just making sure he wasn't diddled. Though it ended up a bittersweet visit anyway. He was probably trying to find out who died first and last,because a lot depended on those sets of circumstances,financially.
What was strange was the fact that nobody seemed to know who died in what order.! Mmm.?

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Re: Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF
« Reply #328 on: June 07, 2012, 03:16:PM »
Hi ajdross I think personally he was an immature young man and if he did go to the Solicitors the day after the killings he would need to know what was the position about paying for the funerals etc and the farm workers and other staff would still want paying.  He considered himself the man who had to take charge I don,t find it strange if indeed it is true. He was the only family member left to see to the affairs.

If you don't like my point then that is fine but I suspect a surreptitious attempt to undermine my points by continually getting my name wrong, were it a mistake or slip of the finger you would press one of many keys surely, not just the 'd' which thus makes my name 'dross'.

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Re: Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF
« Reply #329 on: June 07, 2012, 03:28:PM »
Nothing strange about that,Ross. Just making sure he wasn't diddled. Though it ended up a bittersweet visit anyway. He was probably trying to find out who died first and last,because a lot depended on those sets of circumstances,financially.
What was strange was the fact that nobody seemed to know who died in what order.! Mmm.?

I suppose it is a matter of opinion, I have never had the five closest members of my family slain in a malicious and brutal fashion so do not know how I would feel, however, I think that even with my callous views on many things, money and work would be far from my mind until at least a few days later. I do not believe JB guilty incidentally, however, I do wish to discuss why other people may and I think that his behaviour could have fuelled many fires.