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Re: Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF
« Reply #285 on: June 06, 2012, 02:25:PM »
Well if anyone has the hardback of Colins book In search of the Rainbows End the 1st part of page 175 has some fireworks .
I have it but am reading Wilkes' book at the moment and that is already making me think it may have been some sort of 'hit' but in that case I can't understand the telephone calls

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« Reply #286 on: June 06, 2012, 02:41:PM »
mertoll dont, have the book so do tell some of the first bit of page 175.  Thanks. :)

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« Reply #287 on: June 06, 2012, 03:12:PM »

As I remember they asked me a few questions about what he looked like and what I saw and then I was sent back to bed. It's possible they stayed and talked to my father after, it's also possible he was involved in something he shouldn't have been, he had a mysterious fire in the same house a short while after. But they definitely said to me it was just a local chap that did that sort of thing and I shouldn't worry, although I'm now 35 and have never forgotten it!



That's very interesting, AJ, if you recall any more about this please let me know as it may well link to someone I'm researching at present. Contacting me by pm may be best as I don't always see replies to queries on the main forum if they come in some time after I ask questions. Is there anyone in your family who might know more about this? Please ask around your family! Tolleshunt D'Arcy was just a small village, although there were of course a few oddballs around the village there would not have been that many people in the village who were known to the police for their habit of criminal damage. Even less, I suspect, who the police would have let off with something like this. It sounds to me as though whoever did this was known to be mentally ill or unstable. Also, if your father was involved in something he shouldn't have been then he was one of many. From what my family told me, most of the district were up to something or other, whether it be smuggling, selling or helping themselves to their employer's plants, unused equipment or booze, tax evasion, poaching, commercial or political corruption or turning a blind eye to something or other. Such things were the norm in that part of deepest, back of beyond Essex.

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Re: Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF
« Reply #288 on: June 06, 2012, 04:00:PM »
Well if anyone has the hardback of Colins book In search of the Rainbows End the 1st part of page 175 has some fireworks .

Hi Mertol, do you mean the fist few pages of chapter 17? Scott's signed book came today and I have left my glasses at work, so I typing blind... :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #289 on: June 06, 2012, 04:11:PM »
I'm a bugger I know.....Is it me or is me? Did Jeremy ring Witham police before he rang Chelmsford...I have just gone straight to the back of Scott's book....Please tell me I am worng!!! Anyone????

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« Reply #290 on: June 06, 2012, 05:14:PM »
Patti  sorry I am lost to what you mean perhaps it is because you have no glasses what is at the back of Scott Lomax,s book. :)

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« Reply #291 on: June 06, 2012, 05:23:PM »

That's very interesting, AJ, if you recall any more about this please let me know as it may well link to someone I'm researching at present. Contacting me by pm may be best as I don't always see replies to queries on the main forum if they come in some time after I ask questions. Is there anyone in your family who might know more about this? Please ask around your family! Tolleshunt D'Arcy was just a small village, although there were of course a few oddballs around the village there would not have been that many people in the village who were known to the police for their habit of criminal damage. Even less, I suspect, who the police would have let off with something like this. It sounds to me as though whoever did this was known to be mentally ill or unstable. Also, if your father was involved in something he shouldn't have been then he was one of many. From what my family told me, most of the district were up to something or other, whether it be smuggling, selling or helping themselves to their employer's plants, unused equipment or booze, tax evasion, poaching, commercial or political corruption or turning a blind eye to something or other. Such things were the norm in that part of deepest, back of beyond Essex.

Keira, how far beyond the parameters of TD did this iniquitous behaviour spread? !!!!! All I suspected was incest and a coven!!!

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Re: Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF
« Reply #292 on: June 06, 2012, 05:27:PM »
Patti  sorry I am lost to what you mean perhaps it is because you have no glasses what is at the back of Scott Lomax,s book. :)

Hi Susan I am being critical.....I open Scott's book and the first thing i see it a timeline....He never mentions JB phoning Witham police station and it is important to mention it....because of the time scale. I want someone to tell me that JB didn't phone Witham first....I want to wrong...Lol..... :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #293 on: June 06, 2012, 05:38:PM »
Hi Patti I can,t tell you about the calls as I am unsure.  Somebody on the forum will tell you quite shortly I think :)

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« Reply #294 on: June 06, 2012, 05:57:PM »
mertoll dont, have the book so do tell some of the first bit of page 175.  Thanks. :)
susan i will take a close up picture of the page in question and post , its clear the book patti has is different as i think page 175 in the softback .

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« Reply #295 on: June 06, 2012, 05:58:PM »
mertoll thank you that is very kind of you and look forward to the read :)

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« Reply #296 on: June 06, 2012, 06:16:PM »
Yes, so true Roch, the theory that JB set up and implicated Sheila as the 'nutter' assasin is a mainstay of the guilty camp argument. He was bound to tell the police she was a 'nutter' because she was a diagnosed scizophrenic who had psychotic episodes. It would have been more strange if Jb hadn't mentioned this.His choice of words wasn't great but he wasn't on trial for his vocabularly or attitude to mental health.
Possibly because JB himself was misled into believing it was Sheila by the voice on the end of the phone?

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« Reply #297 on: June 06, 2012, 06:31:PM »
Possibly because JB himself was misled into believing it was Sheila by the voice on the end of the phone?
Absolutely Grahame.

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Re: Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF
« Reply #298 on: June 06, 2012, 06:49:PM »
I'm a bugger I know.....Is it me or is me? Did Jeremy ring Witham police before he rang Chelmsford...I have just gone straight to the back of Scott's book....Please tell me I am worng!!! Anyone????

I read that he did but that there was no answer at witham He rang Chelmsford and they then rang witham later I think

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« Reply #299 on: June 06, 2012, 08:20:PM »
I read that he did but that there was no answer at witham He rang Chelmsford and they then rang witham later I think

I just checked and Wilkes' book quotes JB as saying he tried Witham but there was no answer so he rang Chelmsford. Another interesting point is that people often make a lot of his behaviour. Wilkes' states that while being interviewed at the cottage JB kept going upstairs with JM, is there any chance they were smoking pot in these interludes which might explain some of that behaviour?