People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom

[Roch]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Sheila_Caffell_crime_scene.JPG

How come the blood spatter pattern on the far right of the frame is different in the comparisons?

[maggie]

Yes I know Patti, I was just commenting on the fact that some people said Jeremy did not show remorse in fact he was as 'happy as a lark' after the killings but he was in fact so distressed that he was prescribed valium, he also was drinking heavily and smoking cannabis, which was no surprise considering the shock and trauma he must have been suffering from. Because of this coctail of drugs he would be pretty out of it, which was why he took them, I should think some realities are too hard to deal with. Also we all react to shock and trauma differently, including laughing and joking sometimes.  I do not believe for one minute that Jeremy did anything that night but go home and go to sleep. Therefore Sheila must have been involved in the deaths that night. I don't really call them murders because I don't believe any of the killing was premeditated.

[maggie]

Also I totally accept that Sheila was moved, possibly from downstairs and that police lied about the whole situation. Mike is a hero, he does amazing work getting to the truth for Jeremy.

[grahameb]

Campion, the outside of the AGA is insulated and doesn't reach the temperatures in question, if the barrel of the gun is responsible then it was a concerted effort to heat it.

But whatever we may think as to whether is was a gun that caused the mark or not, the question is still a niggling one, "Why would anyone inflict such wounds on Ralph?

[grahameb]

You would be surprised Hartley, a friend of mine (I have at least one) has got an oil fired Aga, I have burnt myself leaning against that without realising it. The Aga my friend has got does all the hot water as well as central heating so it is never switched off.

I for a fact know that however much an Aga is insulated it's always hot to touch whatever part on it you mention. We used to sit next to ours to keep warm.

[Roch]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Sheila_Caffell_crime_scene.JPG

How come the blood spatter pattern on the far right of the frame is different in the comparisons?

It's just the angle.  My mistake.

[grahameb]

Hi

When the forensic test were done, the end of the barrel was heated up to the same heat
as it would if it had been fired.  Then the end of the barrel was placed on pig skin, which
is identified to be similar to our own.

When a shot is fired through a semi automatic, it the end of the nozzle becomes heated, this is
a fact...The friction burns on Nevill's back were consistent, with the test done on the pig skin...
The measurements were the same size as the end of the barrel.......Thus, making the forensic test
a strong indication that the barrel was at some stage pointed into Nevill's back......

Patti, have you ever touched a pig? If so you will soon find that they have skin which is far tougher than our skin. That in my estimation makes human skin much more susceptible to burning than pigs skin. In fact it is incredibly easy to burn human skin.

[Roch]

Patti, have you ever touched a pig? If so you will soon find that they have skin which is far tougher than our skin. That in my estimation makes human skin much more susceptible to burning than pigs skin. In fact it is incredibly easy to burn human skin.

This is what I had wondered Grahame, when it was queried about the rifle being pushed in to the hide.

[grahameb]

This is what I had wondered Grahame, when it was queried about the rifle being pushed in to the hide.

Pigs are naturally tough animals that have incredibly thick hides. The eat anything and if you want to clear your garden of weeds then get a pig. They also wade into all kinds of weeds like nettles and thistles etc without it making any impression on them. I've been there when pig farmers have tried to get these animals onto trailers and lorries. They smack the obstinate ones to get them moving. But it hardly makes an impression on them.

[Patti]

Patti, have you ever touched a pig? If so you will soon find that they have skin which is far tougher than our skin. That in my estimation makes human skin much more susceptible to burning than pigs skin. In fact it is incredibly easy to burn human skin.

Sorry Grahame to disagree...on that....But a pigs skin is very much like ours.

I used to live near pig farms....and the reason they throw mud on themselves
is because they get sunburnt like we humans do....Hoink! lol

True honestly....google it..

[grahameb]

Sorry Grahame to disagree...on that....But a pigs skin is very much like ours.

I used to live near pig farms....and the reason they throw mud on themselves
is because they get sunburnt like we humans do....Hoink! lol

True honestly....google it..

Not the ones I've encountered.

[maggie]

Pig's skin is however, the closest to human skin.  Anyone want to offer their bodies for a trial? I'm sure we could think of someone...

[Roch]

Pig's skin is however, the closest to human skin.  Anyone want to offer their bodies for a trial? I'm sure we could think of someone...

I can certainly think of an obstinate pig who needs a smack.

[grahameb]

I can certainly think of an obstinate pig who needs a smack.

[grahameb]

Pig's skin is however, the closest to human skin.  Anyone want to offer their bodies for a trial? I'm sure we could think of someone...

Yeah. In order to be more accurate they should have offered a 100 bucks to some homeless man. There are plenty just across the border in Las Vegas.