How did the relatives know JB had not been seen moving between WHF and his home

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

Not a problem for mugford though was it not, a non family member , how on earth could the police allowed this i will never know.

Again, sorry but I think this might be a forum myth. I don't think that JM identified the twins. She identified NB, JB and SC but I believe that Colin Caffel identified the twins.

[vidvic]

But Ann said she couldn´t go identify the bodies, because she couldn´t tell the twins apart. She couldn´t have known them that well.

Where did you get this info from? It's not what I was told happened.

[andrea]

Colin didnt identify the twins, he couldnt face it, who can blame him?

I think it was jm that identified all of them.

[andrea]

i think Anne was sat outside in a car waiting for julie, if i remember correctly.

[Roch]

Where did you get this info from? It's not what I was told happened.

Vic, you've left this late to challenge. It's been mentioned on here about 20 times.  Hartley must have picked up on it, surely?

[mertol22]

Colin didnt identify the twins, he couldnt face it, who can blame him?

I think it was jm that identified all of them.

Colin did not say goodbye to the twins at the funeral home, his book may point to he wished he had , only my view.

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

Again it just shows how dangerous these forums can be at perpetuating myths and untruths because I was under the impression that Colin had identified the twins by describing "distinctive marks" upon them, like birth marks maybe?

[andrea]

Colin did not say goodbye to the twins at the funeral home, his book may point to he wished he had , only my view.

thats correct, Colin never saw the twins after their deaths, the last time he saw the twins, they were alive.

[mertol22]

Again it just shows how dangerous these forums can be at perpetuating myths and untruths because I was under the impression that Colin had identified the twins by describing "distinctive marks" upon them, like birth marks maybe?

I can recommend to you a book that will help very much, In search of the Rainbows end by colin caffell, you will have some answers in your reading, ive not finished reading the copy i have but i have shed tears and most likely shed some more, Colins Book is not easy to find but very moving when you read .

[grahameb]

thats correct, Colin never saw the twins after their deaths, the last time he saw the twins, they were alive.

I think he said that he wanted to remember them as they were. But I can't be sure? It's a long time since I read his book.

[mertol22]

I think thats what he said , i dont think in his heart he could see them together in one childs casket, he does say later he was in two minds after, i think it would have made him very ill Colin needed his strength still for the twins funerals .

[grahameb]

I think thats what he said , i dont think in his heart he could see them together in one childs casket, he does say later he was in two minds after, i think it would have made him very ill Colin needed his strength still for the twins funerals .

I feel very sorry for Colin. I know that Jeremy has spent most of his adult life in prison for what I personally believe to be for a crime he did not commit. But Colin to my mind has suffered the greater loss.

[Hartley]

Vic, you've left this late to challenge. It's been mentioned on here about 20 times.  Hartley must have picked up on it, surely?

Hello Rochy, what can I do for you, you appear to have mentioned me again.

[mertol22]

I feel very sorry for Colin. I know that Jeremy has spent most of his adult life in prison for what I personally believe to be for a crime he did not commit. But Colin to my mind has suffered the greater loss.

Colin has suffered the greater loss Grahame , but after all life hit him with he carried on and today is a gifted and well respected  a truly unique and talented man Colin had to go on for the twins,for Jeremy there is still time for some kind of life again its very close .

[tyler]

Colin did not identify the twins bodies.He wanted to remember them as they were.Poor man,my heart goes out to him.
Julie offered to identify all the victims as neither Jeremy or the other family members did not wish to,which is perfectly understandable.
It has been stated,possibly in Wilkes book,that Ann had stated that she wouldnt be able to tell the twins apart anyway.
Ann sat outside in the police car whilst Mugford went in.
Mugford was described as being very composed whilst in the mortuary and also afterwards on the way home.It hadnt appeared to have affected her,which to me seems really odd if she really believed that her own boyfriend was responsible for these tragic loss of lives.