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Offline mike tesko

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Damning Evidence kept back by Ann Eaton/Barbara Wilson - threats to kill by SC

Several prosecution witnesses knew something which was never admitted to in a statement, and never mentioned when the same witnesses testified during Jeremy's trial - Sheila was known to have told Ann Eaton, that " ALL PEOPLE ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE KILLED"...

According to handwritten notes made about this development, Ann Eaton had told DS "Stan" Jones, this in confidence, yet nobody made a witness statement about it, and nobody mentioned this important evidence to the court which tried Jeremy?

« Last Edit: October 30, 2011, 09:28:PM by mike tesko »
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So if nobidy madw a statenent about it and stan jones was told it in confidence, how do you know about ut mike? Excuse the typos im using iphone!

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Now...

Why was this important evidence withheld from Jeremy, and the jury?

Surely, if Sheila has said something like this, about all people being bad and that they should be killed, it is very relevant to the trial, where the court is availing itself to consider the possibility that Sheila killed the others and that she had then gone on to take her own life?

"ALL PEOPLE ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE KILLED"
"ALL PEOPLE ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE KILLED"
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Andy isn't that the note Mike has posted

Offline mike tesko

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So if nobidy madw a statenent about it and stan jones was told it in confidence, how do you know about ut mike? Excuse the typos im using !

I have a copy of the hand written notes made by DS "Stan" Jones, which were kept by PI "Bob" Miller, - I have posted an extract from those notes, but will post the full notes shortly...
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How do u know about it mike?

Offline mike tesko

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Andy isn't that the note Mike has posted

Yes they are, I posted the body of the message before attaching the extract - I will post the full contents for the purpose of being specific...
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How do u know about it mike?

I have got a copy of the case file and it was amongst the notes contained in it...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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The more I learn about this case, the more I do believe that Sheila is the perpetrator. It makes more and more sense to me. And less and less that it was Jeremy, a hitman or a third party.

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Anyway...

seems like Sheila was declaring to someone that "ALL PEOPLE ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE KILLED", now when did Sheila say this to Ann Eaton? And when did Ann Eaton say this in confidence to DS Jones? This is the sort of thing which the jury should have been told about, because it demonstrates that Sheila had thoughts about killing everyone, because she said they were all bad - but who was Sheila referring to? Why would she be saying they all should be killed? Wonder how Sheila intended to kill them all?

Drown them?
Drug them?
Stab them?
Shoot them?
« Last Edit: October 30, 2011, 09:42:PM by mike tesko »
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The more I learn about this case, the more I do believe that Sheila is the perpetrator. It makes more and more sense to me. And less and less that it was Jeremy, a hitman or a third party.

it is certainly interesting that here was evidence about Sheila declaring that "ALL PEOPLE ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE KILLED", and there was a trial which was looking at the possibility that Sheila could have and did kill everyone, including herself, and this rather crucial information was not brought to the attention of the court or the jury which had to decide culpability?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Was it said to Ann Eaton?
The notes look to read that Barbara Wilson stated "that sometime before incident,Sheila had said the words All people are bad and should be killed."

I wonder how long is meant by sometime before the incident?

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I personally know of many prisoners who were on remand at risk of being convicted of murder, rather than manslaughter, simply because witnesses had heard them make threats weeks or days before the actual time when there was a confrontation where the other party lost their lives, and guilt or innocence depended on the words uttered on these other occasions, weeks or days beforehand?

I do not see any difference here, in this example, where Sheila told Ann Eaton, "ALL PEOPLE ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE KILLED"...

These words/threats were/are important in the context of this case, and should have been spoken out about, not suppressed and kept secret, since an innocent mans life hung in the balance
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Was it said to Ann Eaton?
The notes look to read that Barbara Wilson stated "that sometime before incident,Sheila had said the words All people are bad and should be killed."

I wonder how long is meant by sometime before the incident?

I agree that it is a matter of interpretation, for example, whether or not Sheila said this to Barbara Wilson, or to Ann Eaton, or if Ann Eaton told Barbara Wilson, and whether Barbara Wilson or Ann Eaton told DS Jones in confidence, but nevertheless, the words "ALL PEOPLE ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE KILLED" do appear to have been uttered to someone by Sheila, and it gives an insight into the state of her mind, and should have been brought to the attention of the court...

particularly because Essex police were fully aware of this...
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Mike was this statement made available for the defence to see?