Author Topic: Damning Evidence kept back by Ann Eaton/Barbara Wilson - threats to kill by SC  (Read 32816 times)

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Offline mike tesko

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Mike was this statement made available for the defence to see?

No, not at the time of the trial, these notes were eventually released as part of the COLP investigation, but seemingly overlooked, and not mentioned until now as a result of me going through the files in my possession...
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Here are the handwritten notes supplied by COLP that were not previously disclosed, confirming that this crucial piece of evidence was not considered by the court which tried Jeremy for these murders:-

I have checked and can confirm that this document was written in and by DS "Stan" Jones own hand...
« Last Edit: October 30, 2011, 10:19:PM by mike tesko »
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I must admit i always had the theory of an outside third party until, i did research on sheila's medical condition, the guilt she would feel after and why she would be determined to kill herself.

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I must admit i always had the theory of an outside third party until, i did research on sheila's medical condition, the guilt she would feel after and why she would be determined to kill herself.

What research was that then?

What did you end up finding out, or what did it lead you to conclude?
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"ALL PEOPLE ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE KILLED" - words spoken by Sheila Caffell at some point before everyone was killed, including herself...

Could this be the evidence that sends Jeremy's case back to the court of appeal?
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I will try and find it again, it wasn't about sheila in person it was about people with similar conditions. Not very good at copy and paste.

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I am off to bed, got an early start in the morning, off to Somerset, will be in touch using my Blackberry...
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I will try and find it again, it wasn't about sheila in person it was about people with similar conditions. Not very good at copy and paste.

tell me source and I will try and locate it, and post information from there...
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GN, Mike, have a nice trip tomorrow.

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I will try and find it again, it wasn't about sheila in person it was about people with similar conditions. Not very good at copy and paste.

tell me source and I will try and locate it, and post information from there...
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This is sickening. How could Stan Jones and the police withhold this crucial evidence from the judge and jury at the trial? This raises numerous questions.

At what stage did Barbara Wilson tell Stan Jones about this statement of Sheila's?

Why did Mrs Wilson reveal this in confidence? Was this because someone else had told her this and that person had asked Mrs Wilson not to speak of it? If so, who told
her to keep this quiet?

Why did Stan Jones ever agree to allow such vital evidence, which could have changed the views of the judge and jury and the course of the entire trial, to be given in confidence?

Essex police and the prosecution could have compelled Mrs Wilson to give this evidence in court, so why didn't they do so?




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Does this statement of Mrs Wilson's have any relevance to her walking out of her house and going missing prior to the trial? Could she perhaps have been nervous or uncomfortable about withholding such vital information from the judge and jury?

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Does this statement of Mrs Wilson's have any relevance to her walking out of her house and going missing prior to the trial? Could she perhaps have been nervous or uncomfortable about withholding such vital information from the judge and jury?


This is very interesting, since I was not aware that she had gone missing, where did you get thIs information from? If she did go missing like you suggest, this would be very significant especially because of the threat made by Sheila herself. - “ALL PEOPLE ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE KILLED“...

If Sheila spoke those words, to either Barbara Wilson, or Ann Eaton, it gives a clear indication that Sheila had it in her mind to kill people, or in other words there was an undeniable intent to do someone serious harm. The words expressed by Sheila in this instance showed that she had thoughts and desires to kill people...
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Does this statement of Mrs Wilson's have any relevance to her walking out of her house and going missing prior to the trial? Could she perhaps have been nervous or uncomfortable about withholding such vital information from the judge and jury?
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This is very interesting, since I was not aware that she had gone missing, where did you get thIs information from? If she did go missing like you suggest, this would be very significant especially because of the threat made by Sheila herself. - “ALL PEOPLE ARE BAD AND SHOULD BE KILLED“...

If Sheila spoke those words, to either Barbara Wilson, or Ann Eaton, it gives a clear indication that Sheila had it in her mind to kill people, or in other words there was an undeniable intent to do someone serious harm. The words expressed by Sheila in this instance showed that she had thoughts and desires to kill people...


Perhaps 'going missing' is a rather clumsy description. I've read that Mrs Wilson went out (on the Sunday?) prior to the trial and no one knew where she was. Did her husband contact Stan Jones about this because he was concerned? I believe it turned out that she had gone out because she was feeling pressured. I'm sure there's a reference to this on the forum, but I'm blowed if I can find it.

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It was and is interesting that Barbara Wilson would later on, make a complaint to Essex police against Peter Eaton who she accused of stealing goods, and farm machinery belonging to N & J Bamber Ltd...
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