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Offline Cambridgecutie

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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2026, 11:05:PM »
I'm surprised that somebody like yourself, who in all other cases is obsessed with scene of the crime evidence (or as you always pompously write it: SOC) did not respond to the allegations of lack of Holly and Jessica's DNA in the house or in the car, why the cadaver dog didn't react to Huntley, why he wasn't picked up on CCTV if the bodies were dumped close to the airforce base, why he didn't dispose of the Manchester United shirts elsewhere, why the mechanic didn't recognize Huntley.

Of course, Huntley is guilty and it was a wicked crime. But it was still a well-written article.

What is remotely "pompous" about using the abbreviation SOC for scene of crime?

SOC's are not a one size fits all.  Victims' and/or perps' dna is not always found at soc based on a variety of factors.  Consider the case of the late Joan Albert; SH's dna was not found at soc.  IH went to considerable lengths cleaning up inside the property.  Fibres from the ManUtd shirts were found inside the property and IH's car.  Why would the cadaver dogs have reacted to IH?

There are over 8 billion people on planet earth.  It seems obvious to me there will be fringe elements all over the place along with the totally misguided. 
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2026, 11:50:AM »
I'm surprised that somebody like yourself, who in all other cases is obsessed with scene of the crime evidence (or as you always pompously write it: SOC) did not respond to the allegations of lack of Holly and Jessica's DNA in the house or in the car, why the cadaver dog didn't react to Huntley, why he wasn't picked up on CCTV if the bodies were dumped close to the airforce base, why he didn't dispose of the Manchester United shirts elsewhere, why the mechanic didn't recognize Huntley.

Of course, Huntley is guilty and it was a wicked crime. But it was still a well-written article.

If the reader does not care about facts, which you don't given you're a proponent of Abrahamic myths, then I guess if could be considered "a well-written article".  For readers who care about facts rooted in science it is utter nonsense. 
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2026, 05:18:PM »
What is remotely "pompous" about using the abbreviation SOC for scene of crime?

SOC's are not a one size fits all.  Victims' and/or perps' dna is not always found at soc based on a variety of factors.  Consider the case of the late Joan Albert; SH's dna was not found at soc.  IH went to considerable lengths cleaning up inside the property.  Fibres from the ManUtd shirts were found inside the property and IH's car.  Why would the cadaver dogs have reacted to IH?

There are over 8 billion people on planet earth.  It seems obvious to me there will be fringe elements all over the place along with the totally misguided.
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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2026, 08:11:AM »
Jurors did not get to hear about most of his previous.  They did hear about one case.  I am not sure about the basis ie what was heard and what wasn't.

He didn't have any previous convictions he had been investigated by Humberside police and social services on numerous occasions. He had also been charged with rape but the case was discontinued.
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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2026, 09:41:PM »
He didn't have any previous convictions he had been investigated by Humberside police and social services on numerous occasions. He had also been charged with rape but the case was discontinued.

I didn't say he did.
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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2026, 10:18:PM »
I didn't say he did.

You did mention previous so I thought convictions.

The investigation prior to Soham would have never gone before a jury as they were just allegations and would have been predjuicial ngb perhaps can confirm the reasons.

His barrister did bring up his rape arrest though.
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2026, 06:34:AM »
I wonder what Carr and Mugford would make of each other.

I actually tend to think Maxine was just another one of Huntleys victims.

She was in Grimsby visiting relatives when he killed the girls. The prosecution and Huntleys own mother believe that the furious phonecall he had had prior to seeing the girls was the catalyst. He was a control freak.
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2026, 10:08:AM »
I actually tend to think Maxine was just another one of Huntleys victims.

She was in Grimsby visiting relatives when he killed the girls. The prosecution and Huntleys own mother believe that the furious phonecall he had had prior to seeing the girls was the catalyst. He was a control freak.

She provided him with a false alibi. 
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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2026, 06:12:PM »
She provided him with a false alibi.

She did, but I believe out of blind love or he persuaded her to do so.

Maxine was in Grimsby at the time of the murders. She played no direct involvement.

Personally I believe she wasn't aware that Huntley was responsible. However I guess we will never know.
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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2026, 06:56:PM »
She did, but I believe out of blind love or he persuaded her to do so.

Maxine was in Grimsby at the time of the murders. She played no direct involvement.

Personally I believe she wasn't aware that Huntley was responsible. However I guess we will never know.

That was part of his undoing, when witnesses placed her in Grimsby.

If I remember correctly, Huntley released new details in an audio confession he had recorded prior to a failed suicide attempt.


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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2026, 08:09:PM »
That was part of his undoing, when witnesses placed her in Grimsby.

If I remember correctly, Huntley released new details in an audio confession he had recorded prior to a failed suicide attempt.

Can't believe Huntley was even walking the streets in 2002 let alone working in a school.

For a young bloke at 28 his murky past was shocking, shagging underage girls, rape allegations, molesting an 11 year girl in an orchard.


Really really sinister evil charchter. Coupled with the charade he played and the ridiculous defence he came up with.
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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2026, 08:12:PM »
That was part of his undoing, when witnesses placed her in Grimsby.

If I remember correctly, Huntley released new details in an audio confession he had recorded prior to a failed suicide attempt.

Chilling thing about the case is he didn't plan any of it so to speak. Its not like he was out in his car looking for kids to abduct.

The girls literally walked past his house and he enticed them in.

Agree with the prosecution that he probably did say that maxine was in the house, she had been their classroom assistant and they thought highly of her and by all accounts vice versa.
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« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2026, 09:03:AM »
Can't believe Huntley was even walking the streets in 2002 let alone working in a school.

For a young bloke at 28 his murky past was shocking, shagging underage girls, rape allegations, molesting an 11 year girl in an orchard.


Really really sinister evil charchter. Coupled with the charade he played and the ridiculous defence he came up with.

I think it is referred to as child sex abuse.

IH's past led to the Bichard inquiry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bichard_report
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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2026, 02:37:PM »
Chilling thing about the case is he didn't plan any of it so to speak. Its not like he was out in his car looking for kids to abduct.

The girls literally walked past his house and he enticed them in.

Agree with the prosecution that he probably did say that maxine was in the house, she had been their classroom assistant and they thought highly of her and by all accounts vice versa.

If I remember correctly, the prosecution also believed there was sexual assault involved, but their bodies were to badly decomposed after two weeks to establish such.

He was some twisted individual.
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2026, 07:31:PM »
If I remember correctly, the prosecution also believed there was sexual assault involved, but their bodies were to badly decomposed after two weeks to establish such.

He was some twisted individual.

I read Holly Wells fathers book. Huntley actually approached him and rubbed him on the shoulder during the searches and told him " I didn't know it was your daughter I hope she turns up ok"

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