Author Topic: Ms Pat Brown - Does She Have Any Formal Qualifications In Criminal Profiling?  (Read 3504 times)

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Offline Cambridgecutie

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Pat Brown claims to be a Criminal Profiler with a BA in Criminal Justice from Boston Univeristy. 

Currently Boston University does not offer a BA in Criminal Justice.  It does offer a MSc in Criminal Justice. 

Obviously there could be some innocent explanation for this.  Perhaps PB gained her qualification at a time Boston Uni did offer a BA in Criminal Justice.  Maybe she forgot the details of her qualification.  Or maybe it was a typo which she has repeated several times in many different places. 

Here's the link to her website:

https://www.patbrownprofiling.com/patbio.html

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As far as I can see she has written 6 books:

1.  The Murder Of Cleopatra (Promethus Books 2013) 60 ratings on Amazon averaging 4.2

2.  The Truth About Book Publishing and Book Publicity (Amazon 2013) 13 ratings on Amazon averaging 4.1

3.  How To Save Your Daughter's Life (HCI 2012) 21 ratings on Amazon averaging 4.4

4.  Only The Truth (Amazon 2012) 1036 ratings on Amazon averaging 4.0

5.  The Profiler: My Life Huntin Serial Killers And Psychopaths (Hyperion Voice 2010) 148 ratings on Amazon averaging 3.7

6.  Killing For Sport: Inside The Mind Of Serial Killers (Phoenix Books 2003) 43 ratings on Amazon averaging 4.2

Number 4 above is apparently, according to the author, a novel. 
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One review from book number 5 listed above reads as follows:

77profile77

1.0 out of 5 stars Not what I was expecting

Reviewed in the United States on 5 December 2011

Format: HardcoverVerified Purchase

When the media needs a person to "profile" a case, who do we, the public, see portrayed as their go-to profiler? Pat Brown. With little knowledge about profiling, the general public believes that Pat Brown is a genuine profiler, but where did she receive her training in criminal profiling? On page 50 of this book, she states, "But I didn't have any formal education in criminal profiling or in criminal behavior, crime reconstruction, and forensics, the three fields that are the foundation of criminal profiling". If you, the reader, wanted to gain more insight into the field of profiling, wouldn't you want to read information from a reputable criminal profiler who went through extensive training? I know I would.
The Profiler: My Life Hunting Serial Killers and Psychopaths is not worth the money, trust me. The book gives insight into her life and why she decided to become a criminal profiler. Pat Brown also explains several cases that she has been involved in, none of which have been solved. One positive note of the book is that it is a quick read. If you are not busy and would like a laugh at how poorly written Pat Brown's book is I would suggest this book. If you would like an intellectual read and one written by a bona fide criminal profiler, I would suggest reading from authors such as John Douglas, Robert Ressler, Roy Hazlewood, and Richard Walter.


I have a highlighted a section above where apparently PB states in her book she didn't receive any formal education in the subject matter and yet she claims to have a BA in Criminal Justice from Boston University. 
Could there by some innocent explanation?
« Last Edit: January 19, 2026, 04:44:PM by Cambridgecutie »
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
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I think this thread is a bit mean of you, Cambridgecutie. The first post has a link to her website, where it mentions she holds a Masters degree, not specifying the type. There could have been an AI generated paragraph, which Pat didn't correct, confusing the MSc with Boston Massachusetts, which is abbreviated to Boston, MA.

As for the book comment, she often self-deprecates herself on the YouTube videos: it's part of her charm. She probably took an online course, so she meant she didn't have any formal training in criminology at the commencement of the course.

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I think this thread is a bit mean of you, Cambridgecutie. The first post has a link to her website, where it mentions she holds a Masters degree, not specifying the type. There could have been an AI generated paragraph, which Pat didn't correct, confusing the MSc with Boston Massachusetts, which is abbreviated to Boston, MA.

As for the book comment, she often self-deprecates herself on the YouTube videos: it's part of her charm. She probably took an online course, so she meant she didn't have any formal training in criminology at the commencement of the course.

It isn't mean Steve.  If someone puts themself out there and is very vocal about a controversial subject, ie the disappearance of MM, they should expect their material to be scrutinised. 

She does indeed refer to a Master's Degree in Criminal Justice on her website but a MA in Criminal Justice on her Wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Brown_(criminal_profiler)

https://www.patbrownprofiling.com/patbio.html

Boston Uni does not currently offer a Master of Arts in Criminal Justice.  It only offers a Master of Science in Criminal Justice.

https://www.bu.edu/academics/degree-programs/
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All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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Here are some criminal profilers with proven track records:

John Douglas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._Douglas

Robert Ressler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ressler

Roy Hazelwood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Hazelwood

Richard Walter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Walter

As a comparison here is Pat Brown's Wiki Page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Brown
« Last Edit: January 19, 2026, 07:34:PM by Cambridgecutie »
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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Here are some criminal profilers with proven track records:

John Douglas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._Douglas

Robert Ressler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Ressler

Roy Hazelwood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Hazelwood

Richard Walter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Walter

As a comparison here is Pat Brown's Wiki Page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Brown
Well, you got the wrong person there.

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Well, you got the wrong person there.

I was just checking you are reading my posts  ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Brown_(criminal_profiler)

« Last Edit: January 19, 2026, 08:18:PM by Cambridgecutie »
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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PB claims on her web page that she developed a programme in the US for Excelsior college entitled: Criminal Profiling and Investigative Analysis.  And yet I can find no such programme at the said place of learning:

https://www.excelsior.edu/
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All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
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https://www.patbrownprofiling.com/about.html

PB also claims she works with police chief Robert Lee but we are not told where he is a police chief just that he is a police chief.

Here's his bio:

https://www.patbrownprofiling.com/robertbio.html

He claims to have a Bachelor of Science degree in Aeronautical Studies from Embry-Riddle University with a minor in Computer Science.

Embry-Riddle University currently offers a Bachelor of Science degree in Aeronautical Science - Flight and Aeronautics.  There is no Aeronautical Studies.

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I have found what purports to be an 'open letter' from PB to Kate McCann in the following:

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id191.htm

I have no idea if it is authentic ie written by PB.  I think it probably is because it is is how she rambles on in other written material and YouTube videos.  If it is authentic not only is she a complete charlatan but she is totally unhinged. 

A professional criminal profiler would never behave like this. 

OPEN LETTER TO KATE MCCANN
 
Yes, Kate,
 
It isn't your breast size or weight that is causing your problems. It is you and your narcissist evaluation of the situation and your PR team's equally stupid assessment of the situation that is making you look so bad in the public eye.
 
I am a criminal profiler with years of experience dealing with parents of murder victims and missing relatives. Your behavior and the behavior of your husband fall far outside or the norm for grieving parents. Now, this may be because you are just terribly narcisstic folks who had nothing to do with your child going missing (outside of neglecting your children and putting your needs to party before their needs for comfort and safety, a narcissistic behavior if I have ever seen one). You and Gerry may simply be so narcissistic you have no understanding of how other people view your behaviors and your PR team may share your narcissism so that no one on your team has a clue to normal human behavior.
 
But, SHUT UP! Every time you open your mouths you do more damage to yourselves. You seem guiltier by the day. Your attempt at "damage control" is so obvious and so very much a day late and a dollar short, everything you do or say seems a cover up and a transparent attempt at proving your innocence.
 
Let me make clear what I think is weird about what you say and do:
 
You choose words about Madeleine's disappearance which make it appear you know there is no abductor and that Madeleine is dead.
 
Both you and Gerry state your only guilt in the matter is not being their when Madeleine "was taken." This statement makes no sense for abduction as Madeleine could not be taken if either of you were with Maddie when an abductor would have shown up. It makes more sense in the context that Maddie died while you were not in the apartment.
 
Your statements and attitude about Madeleine being alive do not square with parents who really believe their daughter is in the hands of a pedophile or pedophiles who are brutally raping and torturing her daily.
 
Your attempts at "finding" Madeleine do not represent the manner most parents would choose if they were actively searching for a live child but appear more to be the actions of parents trying to prove after the fact of a child’s death that they "cared" (not care) about her.
 
Your behaviors of "keeping a normal routine" and "keeping up one's appearance" is admirable, but extremely bizarre. I don't know any other parents of missing children who can appear so together and cheery. When my daughter cooked our kittens by accident in the dryer, I cancelled Christmas.
 
Gerry's blog creeps people out. It is too upbeat. Terrified and distraught parents of missing children are rarely able to jog and play tennis and go to park with their other kids and have a fun time. Over a long period of time, maybe, but this is usually years after the nightmare begins. Some parents never recover from the trauma and it is common for marriages to fail and the brothers and sisters to feel their parents went absent after their sibling went missing.
 
Your ability to sleep at night after the first five days, Kate, is beyond belief. It is the behavior of one who already knows the answer and even then, is quite a narcissistic trait. If you believed your daughter was being raped as you lay in bed at night, sleep would be very hard to come by. I guess you finally realize this and your mother is saying that NOW you can't sleep and Madeleine comes to visit you in the night. What changed, Kate?
 
Your PR team coming up with an answer to every accusation, answers that are ludicrous in themselves, makes you seem awfully defensive, and, if there is no way you or Gerry had anything to do with Maddie's disappearance, you have nothing to defend. Furthermore, if all you care about is finding Maddie, you shouldn't be wasting your time on such silliness. After all, as Gerry said, Maddie is the only important thing, right?

So, SHUT UP, Kate. SHUT UP, GERRY. Fire your PR team as they are totally worthless. If both of you really are innocent and you think Maddie is alive, return to Portugal. Start searching for real (and it took six months to set up a hotline?). Cooperate with the police. Take the polygraphs as you have zero to hide and, with competent polygraph examiners, the questions are so simple you can't screw them up. I will even give you the four questions that should be asked:
 
"Did Madeleine die while you were present?"
"Did you return to the apartment and find Madeleine dying or dead?"
"Did you move Madeleine's body at any time?"
"Did your spouse move Madeleine's body at any time?"
 
These are simple questions. The answer to all of them should be "No." There is no ambiguity in these questions (unlike a question such as "Do you feel responsible for the disappearance of Madeleine?" which you could if you acknowledge leaving her without an adult caretaker is irresponsible; an affirmative answer to such a question would be useless to the detectives as it could falsely indicate that you had something to do with Maddie going missing when you are only feeling guilty over leaving her unattended. Also, an affirmative answer could mean you simply do not feel responsible for what happened to Maddie no matter what happened to her as a total narcissist might).

The above four questions are simple and unambiguous and even a narcissist can't misconstrue the meaning of the questions. The answers will be a simple "Yes" or "No." Have the polygraph session videotaped so the police will be unable to do any underhanded scare tactics or interrogation that might distort the results of the tests.

Quite frankly, Kate, you and Gerry had everything going for you as parents of a missing child if you hadn't left your children unattended night after night to go out partying. THIS is what made people dislike you. It was to your advantage that you are both relatively attractive people because IF you had big breasts and a porky physique and were not well-heeled professionals, you would have become suspects right off the bat and you would have not had the incredible monetary support you have been blessed with nor all those kindly letters. You would have been viewed as just a pair of slobs who probably abused their children as well as neglected them and you wouldn't have gotten the phenomenal amount of publicity worldwide concerning Maddie's disappearance. Other parents have gone public, run campaigns, and had web sites, but your fortune with publicity and support has been unprecedented. And, you complain, Kate, that people are treating you badly because you are fit! It was being fit and professional and well-off that got you so much attention. It was you and Gerry's fitness as parents and your peculiar behaviors that got you the negative attention.
 
I have a final suggestion. Ask the PJ if I can come analyze the case. My organization will send me pro bono. As a criminal profiler I can analyze the actual evidence to advise the investigators as to the best investigate strategy. I have no problem determining this crime as an abduction and finding the creep that took Madeleine if the evidence points that way. I don't have to like you and Gerry as people to view the evidence in an impassionate and professional manner. No one should be convicted of a crime simply because of personality and because people don't like the individual's personality. Solid physical and circumstantial evidence must exist to the point where there is no question as to who committed the crime. I would work very diligently to assist the PJ with the evidence and the facts and do a thorough crime scene analysis that would move the case forward.

Furthermore, if you and Gerry get charged in Madeleine's disappearance and must truly defend yourselves, my services are available to you and your lawyers. I will be more than happy to analyze the evidence and, if you are innocent, do all I can to serve in your defense.

Good luck, Kate. May the truth be brought to light soon and you and Gerry get the justice you deserve in the case of your missing daughter.

All the best,

Criminal Profiler Pat Brown
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http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id191.htm

This has to be some of the weirdest stuff I've ever read. Some of it written only 5 months after the (alleged) abduction of Maddie.
It just doesn't read as being written by someone with a university degree,
'because if you had big breasts and a porky physique and were not well-heeled professionals, you would have become suspects"

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http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id191.htm

This has to be some of the weirdest stuff I've ever read. Some of it written only 5 months after the (alleged) abduction of Maddie.
It just doesn't read as being written by someone with a university degree,
'because if you had big breasts and a porky physique and were not well-heeled professionals, you would have become suspects"

lmao

That reads like something CC would write.

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lmao

That reads like something CC would write.

Where have I ever written anything remotely similar?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs