Author Topic: Ms Pat Brown - Does She Have Any Formal Qualifications In Criminal Profiling?  (Read 3505 times)

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Offline Steve_uk

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Where?  Who is going to 'out' her?  No one takes her seriously except you.
The Boston University authorities for one. Her daughter for another, who is a police officer.

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The Boston University authorities for one. Her daughter for another, who is a police officer.

Here's BU's homepage:

https://www.bu.edu/

There's no mention of a portal, or some other mechanism, for reporting fraud.  If I emailed about my concerns they would no doubt ask a) when is PB claiming she attended ie dates and b) what was her full name at that time.  Since I do not know the answer to either how could someone like myself check out her credentials? 

How do you know she has a daughter and if she does whether the daughter is actually a police officer?  Surely this in itself is a red flag ie a 'professional criminal profiler' talking about their personal life in the course of lecturing anyone who cares to listen about her theories on the MM case?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Offline Steve_uk

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Here's BU's homepage:

https://www.bu.edu/

There's no mention of a portal, or some other mechanism, for reporting fraud.  If I emailed about my concerns they would no doubt ask a) when is PB claiming she attended ie dates and b) what was her full name at that time.  Since I do not know the answer to either how could someone like myself check out her credentials? 

How do you know she has a daughter and if she does whether the daughter is actually a police officer
?  Surely this in itself is a red flag ie a 'professional criminal profiler' talking about their personal life in the course of lecturing anyone who cares to listen about her theories on the MM case?
She's posted a picture of her during one of her shows.

As for her qualifications, I made enquiries at the university and for a small fee any past student's qualifications can be checked. https://www.studentclearinghouse.org/

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as profoling is pretty much jenk science, anyway, does it really matter


no murder case has ever been solved by profiling on its own

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She's posted a picture of her during one of her shows.

Assuming this image you are referring to is actually her daughter, did she have her daughter's permission to post up a picture of her during one of her shows?  Surely this in itself raises a red flag Steve?  What sort of professional brings his/her children, adult or not, into it?

As for her qualifications, I made enquiries at the university and for a small fee any past student's qualifications can be checked. https://www.studentclearinghouse.org/

Go ahead and check then but I am sure you will need a little more than 'Pat Brown'.  I am sure they have hundereds of Pat Browns on their system ranging from Patrick Brown to Pattu Brown.  Do you know her full name when she CLAIMS she attended and the dates?  Is Brown her birth name, a married name or even a name she uses on social media?  What was her marital status when she CLAIMS she attended.  I do not need to check because everything I've heard from this woman tells me all I need to know about her!
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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as profoling is pretty much jenk science, anyway, does it really matter

no murder case has ever been solved by profiling on its own

Good points.  I think it can assist when the profilers are properly qualified:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI_method_of_profiling

But here you can see how it was misused in the case of Colin Stagg:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/oct/31/ukcrime.stevenmorris
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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Assuming this image you are referring to is actually her daughter, did she have her daughter's permission to post up a picture of her during one of her shows?  Surely this in itself raises a red flag Steve?  What sort of professional brings his/her children, adult or not, into it?

Go ahead and check then but I am sure you will need a little more than 'Pat Brown'.  I am sure they have hundereds of Pat Browns on their system ranging from Patrick Brown to Pattu Brown.  Do you know her full name when she CLAIMS she attended and the dates?  Is Brown her birth name, a married name or even a name she uses on social media?  What was her marital status when she CLAIMS she attended.  I do not need to check because everything I've heard from this woman tells me all I need to know about her!
I think you should do the check for your own peace of mind. As for her personal life, I know what she has put in the public domain, which again is available to members if they watch her videos.

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I think you should do the check for your own peace of mind. As for her personal life, I know what she has put in the public domain, which again is available to members if they watch her videos.

I am at peace with my own mind. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs