CAL's visit to WHF.

[ILB]

But she got a holiday at WHF.

She went and stayed with her adoptive parents at their farm.

She was probably happy to see her parents, and Nevill and June were happy to see Daniel and Nicholas.

Will hesitate at she was happy to see Jez, Brother and sister were not close.

[Adam]

Translated roughly " I am only speaking to you out of politeness, hurry up and end the phonecall, I don't want to talk "

We have all been there.

So say something to end the call.

She couldn't speak to CC, her children, her parents, June's sister. More drowsy than a man after 8 pints.

[Adam]

No they were going to enjoy a holiday in France.

She wasnt wheelchair bound.

There is no way CC, June & Nevill would finance and allow it.

And no way Tompkinson would spend 24/7 looking after a woman who couldn't get off a sofa.

But she got a holiday at WHF where she could be monitored 24/7.

[Adam]

Sheila couldn't control a pet hampster, let alone 2 fully fit adults.

Tragically.

[Steve_uk]

She was seeking and undertaking part time employment as a cleaner. None of the jobs lasted long. Some by the employers decision. Some by her own violation. She also went out, dated men and planned a holiday to France with TT and her family.

Shelias prestigious background and family wealth has nothing to do with her functional dexterity.

To put it bluntly ( and I didnt set out to make this point) if she can move and handle items she can fire a .22

But she can't reload twice. Ann Eaton said she couldn't pour a drink into a tumbler, or put beans on toast.

[ILB]

There is no way CC, June & Nevill would finance and allow it.

And no way Tompkinson would spend 24/7 looking after a woman who couldn't get off a sofa.

But she got a holiday at WHF where she could be monitored 24/7.

TT and Shelia were planning a holiday.

What's CC have to do with it?

[ILB]

So say something to end the call.

She couldn't speak to CC, her children, her parents, June's sister. More drowsy than a man after 8 pints.

She did, she handed the phone back to June.

[ILB]

Ann Eaton said she couldn't pour a drink into a tumbler, or put beans on toast.

..............

[Jane]

She was seeking and undertaking part time employment as a cleaner. None of the jobs lasted long. Some by the employers decision. Some by her own violation. She also went out, dated men and planned a holiday to France with TT and her family.

Shelias prestigious background and family wealth has nothing to do with her functional dexterity.

Are you actually saying that in the very short time between leaving hospital and her death she'd had enough jobs to have lost some by employer's decision and some by her own decisions! And who are you suggesting she violated!? Some of the men you claim she dated, perhaps? I'm not sure where I suggested her background had anything to do with her dexterity, but I'm very sure that you avoided answering my question.

To put it bluntly ( and I didnt set out to make this point) if she can move and handle items she can fire a .22

[Adam]

TT and Shelia were planning a holiday.

What's CC have to do with it?

CC had the children.

[Adam]

She did, she handed the phone back to June.

June took the phone back. Sheila had no capacity to make decisions.

[Adam]

No they were going to enjoy a holiday in France.

She wasnt wheelchair bound.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11968.msg552172.html#msg552172

The France holiday was cancelled in favour of WHF. CC was persuaded as the whole family would be there.

Agree she was not wheelchair bound on the 6th August. Although there were reports of erratic walking, no balance or co ordination.

She may have been wheelchair bound in the 6 & 8 weeks when an in patient. And when on a higher dosage of Haldoperiodal. Certainly bed bound.

[ILB]

CC had the children.

Yes, they were his children.

[ILB]

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11968.msg552172.html#msg552172

The France holiday was cancelled in favour of WHF. CC was persuaded as the whole family would be there.

Agree she was not wheelchair bound on the 6th August. Although there were reports of erratic walking, no balance or co ordination.

She may have been wheelchair bound in the 6 & 8 weeks when an in patient. And when on a higher dosage of Haldoperiodal. Certainly bed bound.

By all means troll and goad. Reality however.

[ILB]

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11968.msg552172.html#msg552172

The France holiday was cancelled in favour of WHF. CC was persuaded as the whole family would be there.

Agree she was not wheelchair bound on the 6th August. Although there were reports of erratic walking, no balance or co ordination.

She may have been wheelchair bound in the 6 & 8 weeks when an in patient. And when on a higher dosage of Haldoperiodal. Certainly bed bound.

CC was persuaded? He was Shelias ex husband and father to the twin's. He wasnt Shelias probation officer.

Shelia was the children's mother.

In fairness he didn't go a bundle of June's religious fanaticism. Can't really fault him.