CAL's visit to WHF.

[ILB]

I just posted a link where CC was 'apprehensive' about Sheila going to WHF.

It is your own post!

I am talking about the France holiday.

Reference the WHF visit in his book CC said " he had a bad feeling" although this is probably obviously tainted by what happened.

He wasnt keen on June Bamber forcing the boys to pray. I can't fault him to be honest.

[ILB]

For me a vegatable is someone bed bound.

This would have been the case in her 6 & 8 week hospital stays. And when on a higher dose of Haldoperiodal.

Leading up to the massacre she was not bed bound but could not function. Going by the sources.

She was planning holidays with friends, socialising, dating men and undertaking menial labour.

It requires a degree of function. Simple put moving around.

You are making out she was housebound.

[ILB]

ILB has been saying a holiday to France was planned.

This contradicted his own post quoting an extract of CAL's book which says this trip was cancelled in favour of a trip to WHF where June & Nevill were.

Even then CC was apprehensive about letting the twins stay with Sheila for so long.

Doesn't contradict anything.

She chose to go visit her parents instead. With Daniel and Nicolas in tow.

You call it a " free holiday" I call it a daughter going to see her parents at their farm along with the grandchildren who Nevill and June doted on. Family orientated.

[ILB]

Also she wouldn't have even entertained the idea of a holiday to France, yet if she was supposably in the condition Adam makes her out to be. It wouldn't be entertained and would be a total non starter.

Thanks Adam.

[ILB]

But who was left to contradict Jeremy's version of events? Only Ann Eaton possibly, whom Sheila had charred for in the past and who knew her cousin's limitations. As for the visit, the whole family had to be under one roof to be annihilated and thereupon make him sole beneficiary.

He said

" she's a nutter "

" she belongs in a nuthouse for what she's done.

" she's a nutter she has been having treatment.

He then in his WS, detailed Shelias early life and hospital admission amongst other things.

For me, It is just about being able to function in the normal sense.

[Adam]

Also she wouldn't have even entertained the idea of a holiday to France, yet if she was supposably in the condition Adam makes her out to be. It wouldn't be entertained and would be a total non starter.

Thanks Adam.

Sheila entertained the idea. No one else.

[Adam]

Doesn't contradict anything.

She chose to go visit her parents instead. With Daniel and Nicolas in tow.

You call it a " free holiday" I call it a daughter going to see her parents at their farm along with the grandchildren who Nevill and June doted on. Family orientated.

Not sure Bamber didn't see it as a free holiday.

She didn't choose. She had no choice.

[ILB]

Sheila entertained the idea. No one else.

Shelia and her mate and others entertained the idea.

As friends do when planning a holiday.

[ILB]

Not sure Bamber didn't see it as a free holiday.

She didn't choose. She had no choice.

What Bamber thought is neither here or there in the context we are discussing.

She had plenty of choice. She was grown woman with a tongue in her head. She probably liked the idea of going to see her dad who she was close to. Also the Bambers doted on the children.  This is normal family stuff.

You know this.

[Adam]

Shelia and her mate and others entertained the idea.

As friends do when planning a holiday.

France with Tora Tompkinson who said Sheila needed help getting off a sofa.

She would love a holiday looking after Sheila 24/7.

[Adam]

What Bamber thought is neither here or there in the context we are discussing.

She had plenty of choice. She was grown woman with a tongue in her head. She probably liked the idea of going to see her dad who she was close to. Also the Bambers doted on the children.  This is normal family stuff.

You know this.

Sheila couldn't function. Physically or mentally.

Not just before the massacre but long term.

She had spent 6 weeks in hospital in 83 & was on Haloperiodal.

June was driving 120-140 miles to do her food shopping for goodness sake. 

Stick to supporting his 'Campaign for a Technicality' because he looked passionate about his appeal.

[ILB]

Sheila couldn't function. Physically or mentally.

Not just before the massacre but long term.

She had spent 6 weeks in hospital in 83 & was on Haloperiodal.

June was driving 120-140 miles to do her food shopping for goodness sake. 

Stick to supporting his 'Campaign for a Technicality' because he looked passionate about his appeal.

Repeating the same old rehash makes no difference to my stance or the reality of the situation

You are entitled to say " yes I believe Jeremy Bamber is the gulity party. However this is not what I am discussing in this instance.

Im here to have sensible discussion on the case, not posting for egos or little games. Their is a wealth of evidence that attests to the opinion I am putting forward.

Grow up little boy.

[ILB]

Adam is suggesting a daughter and grandchildren going to visit and stay with the daughters parents is an " unusual occurance"

Has he been living on this planet?

[ILB]

France with Tora Tompkinson who said Sheila needed help getting off a sofa.

She would love a holiday looking after Sheila 24/7.

It was a plan they had.

Nobody mentioned looking after SC.

[Adam]

If I was CC I would not mind Sheila & the twins going to WHF for a few days.

June & Nevill could monitor Sheila & the twins. There were also other people around, such as farm workers, BW, the house keeper & of course Jeremy.

CC could drive them there.

France, no way.