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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #105 on: April 14, 2025, 09:48:PM »
So when did Neville call the police.

He didn't. 
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #106 on: April 14, 2025, 09:51:PM »
He didn't.
Thank you.  Who cut the call between Jeremy and Neville, are you saying Neville cut the call but didn’t put the receiver back down?   

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #107 on: April 14, 2025, 09:56:PM »
Thank you.  Who cut the call between Jeremy and Neville, are you saying Neville cut the call but didn’t put the receiver back down?

It appears NB heard shots/screams/noise from upstairs and left the handset on the worktop.  This is what all the physical evidence at soc supports.
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #108 on: April 14, 2025, 09:59:PM »
It appears NB heard shots/screams/noise from upstairs and left the handset on the worktop.  This is what all the physical evidence at soc supports.
Tge phone went dead, if he just left the phone on the worktop it would still be a open line, so someone cut the call?

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #109 on: April 14, 2025, 10:00:PM »
Nevill's call was 'mysterious' enough.

No it wasn't

It was never proved or disproven. The technology simply didn't exist.
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #110 on: April 14, 2025, 10:00:PM »
Tge phone went dead, if he just left the phone on the worktop it would still be a open line, so someone cut the call?

He may have slammed it on the receiver.
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #111 on: April 14, 2025, 10:05:PM »
NB had firearms lying around

NB had children on the premises

NB had a schizophrenic daughter on the premises.

NB was a clever astute man

NB knows that getting the authorities involved will result in.

Daniel and Nicholas been removed from any type of custody of Shelia

Nevill and June unlikely being able to see the children in any capacity for a long time.

The potential of Shelia getting into trouble.

The potential of awkward queries by police about firearms.

The embarrassment as word spreads around the community

The embarrassment of being a local JP and word getting about.

It's a private insular family, hence he phoned Bamber.
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #112 on: April 14, 2025, 10:07:PM »
Tge phone went dead, if he just left the phone on the worktop it would still be a open line, so someone cut the call?

It was an open line that's how the GPO were able to hook up and listen in:
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #113 on: April 14, 2025, 10:08:PM »
He may have slammed it on the receiver.
So Sheila’s is  going crazy with a gun, Neville decides to let her get on with it, phones Jeremy up to tell him to come over and help, doesn’t want to involve the Police, hears Sheila (was she shooting away at this stage) attacking June throws the phone on the hook, it luckily cancels the call between Jeremy and himself, stops Jeremy ringing back, the phone falls onto the table making it look like it’s off the hook, he runs upstairs into a ambush of fire from Sheila?   Have I missed anything out at this stage?

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #114 on: April 14, 2025, 10:10:PM »
He may have slammed it on the receiver.

He didn't slam it on the receiver.  He left it on the worktop as it was found by EP. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #115 on: April 14, 2025, 10:15:PM »
He didn't slam it on the receiver.  He left it on the worktop as it was found by EP.

Whatever happened, he cut the call and went elsewhere.
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #116 on: April 14, 2025, 10:15:PM »
It was an open line that's how the GPO were able to hook up and listen in:
I will let Zoso deal with that she’s the expert, isn’t there something along the lines after a while with the phone being off the hook the line clears?  Not sure though.  He specifically said the line went dead, if it was open he would still hears noises in the house especially gunshot fire,

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #117 on: April 14, 2025, 10:15:PM »
So Sheila’s is  going crazy with a gun, Neville decides to let her get on with it, phones Jeremy up to tell him to come over and help, doesn’t want to involve the Police, hears Sheila (was she shooting away at this stage) attacking June throws the phone on the hook, it luckily cancels the call between Jeremy and himself, stops Jeremy ringing back, the phone falls onto the table making it look like it’s off the hook, he runs upstairs into a ambush of fire from Sheila?   Have I missed anything out at this stage?

Shelia HAS the gun.

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #118 on: April 14, 2025, 10:17:PM »
He didn't slam it on the receiver.  He left it on the worktop as it was found by EP.

JB said " it sounded like someone had put their finger on the receiver button

That would result in a terminated call.
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #119 on: April 14, 2025, 10:18:PM »
So Sheila’s is  going crazy with a gun, Neville decides to let her get on with it, phones Jeremy up to tell him to come over and help, doesn’t want to involve the Police, hears Sheila (was she shooting away at this stage) attacking June throws the phone on the hook, it luckily cancels the call between Jeremy and himself, stops Jeremy ringing back, the phone falls onto the table making it look like it’s off the hook, he runs upstairs into a ambush of fire from Sheila?   Have I missed anything out at this stage?

NB doesn't throw the phone on the hook.  The handset was left on the kitchen worktop where it was found by EP. 

Yes you have missed what the totality of the soc evidence supports at soc.  This supports JB's narrative.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs