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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #90 on: April 14, 2025, 07:18:PM »
No idea why he bothers at this late stage.  None of it can be proved/disproved.  The times will never shift from what was set out at trial:

26. PC West recorded the time of the appellant's call as 3.36 a.m. At trial it was accepted that the officer had misread a digital clock. The officer's contact with Mr Bonnett was recorded as being at 3.26 a.m. and it seems clear that the appellant's call must have been at 3.26 a.m. or very shortly before.
I agree, if the People who where involved or at the scene can’t get the times right, no one else will, it’s impossible.
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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #91 on: April 14, 2025, 07:22:PM »
Why?

Over 20 miles from WHF is not local.
Its Snowy and Bills theory, Jeremy had the brain wave to keep it local rather than 999?  Maybe ringing the Local Police isn’t like ringing the Police 😂

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #92 on: April 14, 2025, 07:22:PM »
This is inventing stuff on JB's behalf.

JB said he called the local police (rather than 999) because "he didn't think it would make any difference" and Nevill didn't call the police because he "does involve organisations"

What I am inventing on JB's behalf?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #93 on: April 14, 2025, 07:28:PM »
This is inventing stuff on JB's behalf.

JB said he called the local police (rather than 999) because "he didn't think it would make any difference" and Nevill didn't call the police because he "does involve organisations"

What am I inventing on JB's behalf?

Yes JB said as much in his police interviews.  Sounds about right on the basis when NB could go private he would: private school fees, private medical care. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #94 on: April 14, 2025, 07:39:PM »
Only one person says Nevill didn't like involving the authorities - Bamber.

Although he contradicted himself. Both on the night & decades later.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #95 on: April 14, 2025, 07:51:PM »
Only one person says Nevill didn't like involving the authorities - Bamber.

Although he contradicted himself. Both on the night & decades later.
He'd been knocked out for three/four hours by the AGA according to some, yet when he called Jeremy he still didn’t think it serious when Sheila was going Crazy with the rifle?

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #96 on: April 14, 2025, 07:57:PM »
Only one person says Nevill didn't like involving the authorities - Bamber.

Although he contradicted himself. Both on the night & decades later.

He said as much in his police interviews. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #97 on: April 14, 2025, 08:04:PM »
He said as much in his police interviews.
And now he’s saying his father did phone the Police?

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #98 on: April 14, 2025, 08:07:PM »
He said as much in his police interviews.
Do you think Neville was injured when he phoned Bamber? 

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #99 on: April 14, 2025, 08:38:PM »
Do you think Neville was injured when he phoned Bamber?

No.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #100 on: April 14, 2025, 08:39:PM »
And now he’s saying his father did phone the Police?

But he didn't say this in 1985/6. 

Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #101 on: April 14, 2025, 08:49:PM »
Nevill says 'please come over' & doesn't like involving the police. According to Bamber (retracted decades later).

So he -

Doesn't come over.

Phones Julie to 'hear a friendly voice.

Looks in Yello Pages & phones a police station over 20 miles from WHF.

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Strangest reaction I have ever heard. 
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'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #102 on: April 14, 2025, 08:51:PM »
Nevill's call was 'mysterious' enough.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #103 on: April 14, 2025, 09:29:PM »
Nevill says 'please come over' & doesn't like involving the police. According to Bamber (retracted decades later).

So he -

Doesn't come over.

Phones Julie to 'hear a friendly voice.

Looks in Yello Pages & phones a police station over 20 miles from WHF.

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Strangest reaction I have ever heard.

You are overlooking the fact the conversation was cut short. 

The call was made based on the soc evidence: blood stains to flooring/lack of, casings, distance of shots, trajectories and wound tracks.  The totality of this evidence supports SC opening fire on June in bed and NB leaving the handset on the kitchen worktop to go upstairs where he sustains the two facial gunshot wounds on the little landing stairs just preceding the entrance to the main bedroom.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs

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Re: The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford
« Reply #104 on: April 14, 2025, 09:43:PM »
You are overlooking the fact the conversation was cut short. 

The call was made based on the soc evidence: blood stains to flooring/lack of, casings, distance of shots, trajectories and wound tracks.  The totality of this evidence supports SC opening fire on June in bed and NB leaving the handset on the kitchen worktop to go upstairs where he sustains the two facial gunshot wounds on the little landing stairs just preceding the entrance to the main bedroom.
So when did Neville call the police.
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