Hearing New Evidence

[Cambridgecutie]

I put this forward years ago, still think it might have happened.

Where did he call JM from if not his cottage?

[ILB]

Where did he call JM from at circa 9.50pm if not his cottage?

Office phone perhaps, nevill still out working, shelia and June downstairs, twins asleep.

[ILB]

He will have drove.

He will have probably done test runs numerous times prior to 7.8.85, possibly even driving down pages lane to see if any reaction to what he was doing was garnered.

There is a possibility that he drove to pages lane and disembarked on the cycle down pages lane before cycling back and chucking the cycle in the boot. I have always been convinced that he wasn't worried about neighbours seeing him or other people due to the time he made the journey.

The car is so much quicker and easier.

[Adam]

He will have drove.

He will have probably done test runs numerous times prior to 7.8.85, possibly even driving down pages lane to see if any reaction to what he was doing was garnered.

There is a possibility that he drove to pages lane and disembarked on the cycle down pages lane before cycling back and chucking the cycle in the boot. I have always been convinced that he wasn't worried about neighbours seeing him or other people due to the time he made the journey.

The car is so much quicker and easier.

Bike in boot.

'Too much pissing about'.

Miller - 'No one would see him in a million years'.

[ILB]

Even in today times past twenty thirty years or so it is only through CCTV that drivers who are committing crimes come a cropper.

Levi bellfield was caught by bus stop cameras that linked vehicles that were owned by him. You very rarely see a homeowner or pedestrian identify a driver of a car going past.

Cctv wasn't about in rural Essex in 1985.

Any security camera will not capture the car driving past as it will point onto the ground of the property

Very good odds.

[ILB]

Bike in boot.

'Too much pissing about'.

Miller - 'No one would see him in a million years'.

If I was going to committ a crime of this magnitude I want to be in and out and back to my home no fucking about. A round trip of 16 minutes from GH to WHF

Cycling on a ladies murder she wrote bike wearing a wetsuit, it's madness

[Cambridgecutie]

Office phone perhaps, nevill still out working, shelia and June downstairs, twins asleep.

Wrong!  JM claims JB called her at 9.50pm and the call lasted 17 - 20 mins.  PB called June at 10pm.  There was one line at WHF.

[Adam]

Bamber would take the route of least risk. It was only a 'one off' journey.

As Julie testified, this was The Sea Wall.

[Adam]

Wrong!  JM claims JB called her at 9.50pm and the call lasted 17 - 20 mins.  PB called June at 10pm.  There was one line at WHF.

Good point.

[ILB]

Wrong!  JM claims JB called her at 9.50pm and the call lasted 17 - 20 mins.  PB called June at 10pm.  There was one line at WHF.

Are times proven to a tee or just approx? Is there a BT call log?

[ILB]

Pamela Boutflour " about ten o clock "

[Cambridgecutie]

Are times proven to a tee or just approx? Is there a BT call log?

You know all times are approx but there's enough overlap to rule out JB calling from WHF.  You are not thinking it through! 

[ILB]

You know all times are approx but there's enough overlap to rule out JB calling from WHF.  You are not thinking it through!

What is there to think through? Without an exact time how do I know if they overlap?

[Adam]

Julie's WS says Bamber called her at 10pm.

PB's WS says she spoke to June/Sheila from 10pm.

100% overlap.

[Adam]

Surprised Bamber went to supper considering him & June had not spoken for years.

But appreciate he had to do some reconnaissance.

Staying the night wouldn't happen.