Hearing New Evidence

[Adam]

There's enough overlap!  It isn't like the circa 3.30am or 5.?am call which were brief.  Please do the gentlemanly thing and concede.

Gentelmanly?

ILB thinks Bamber making Julie cycle 3 miles to the bus station with a suitcase is classy.

[Steve_uk]

If someone clocks him cycling it's too crystal clear the possibility of an ID.

A car going past is a car, not a visual ID.

No one will remember the reg number as nobody would have any inkling the car was on its way to committ crimes.

Bike is much riskier in this regard

He was well known in the area, prominent family.

Julie said he would wear a mask. It might depend on whether a passer-by could recognize the bike.

[Adam]

Julie said he would wear a mask. It might depend on whether a passer-by could recognize the bike.

Have you got a source for that?

[Steve_uk]

Have you got a source for that?

It's in her statement.

[Adam]

It's in her statement.

I don't recall reading that.

He dyed his hair and darkened his face. That was more for inside WHF.

Miller said 'No one would see him in a million years' on The Sea Wall route.

[ILB]

There's enough overlap!  It isn't like the circa 3.30am or 5.?am call which were brief.  Please do the gentlemanly thing and concede.

How long was the phonecall to June?

Will never concede with no telephone records. Sorry.

[Steve_uk]

I don't recall reading that.

He dyed his hair and darkened his face. That was more for inside WHF.

Miller said 'No one would see him in a million years' on The Sea Wall route.

I will find the source when I have time.

[ILB]

Julie said he would wear a mask. It might depend on whether a passer-by could recognize the bike.

The coppers will pull a guy cycling the roads at that time of night, on the chance a patrol car passed him. They will think he is out robbing.

[ILB]

Miller said 'No one would see him in a million years' on The Sea Wall route.

Miller, an impartial observer of course........

[ILB]

Gentelmanly?

ILB thinks Bamber making Julie cycle 3 miles to the bus station with a suitcase is classy.

Maybe he didn't have time to drive her.

[ILB]

Don't know why ILB doesn't just accept Bamber cycled The Sea Wall route.

Miller - 'No one would see him in a million years'.

Bikes in boots, sleep overs. Crazy.

The " sleep over " would be a massive advantage to Bamber.

Puts him in WHF without having to piss about travelling.

[Steve_uk]

I don't recall reading that.

He dyed his hair and darkened his face. That was more for inside WHF.

Miller said 'No one would see him in a million years' on The Sea Wall route.

It's on Sheet 4 here: https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,3729.0.html

[Steve_uk]

The coppers will pull a guy cycling the roads at that time of night, on the chance a patrol car passed him. They will think he is out robbing.

That's a good point, but wasn't Jeremy familiar to some extent with the routine of law enforcement?

[ILB]

That's a good point, but wasn't Jeremy familiar to some extent with the routine of law enforcement?

As far as I am aware he had never been arrested prior to 1985 for anything. Although I have read he had some shit in NZ and had to go in a line up. No UK criminal record though to my knowledge.

[Cambridgecutie]

The " sleep over " would be a massive advantage to Bamber.

Puts him in WHF without having to piss about travelling.

Well there was no "sleep over".