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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #285 on: October 23, 2024, 06:00:PM »
The farm track adjoining the Sea Wall before the prosecutions farm track is around 450 metres before.

He would have to take a right off this track. Across two fields. Leading to Pages Lane and simultaneously avoiding Wyke Farm.

The farm track looks fine to cycle.

If the two fields could not be cycled across,  he has the option of walking across them.

Cycling up the farm track which goes straight to Pages Lane
and past Wyke Farm is the prosecutions route. Also very possible Bamber cycled this.
He wouldn't risk being seen by someone in the farm cottages, surely? Or are they obscured by bushes?

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #286 on: October 23, 2024, 06:02:PM »
https://youtu.be/jJWOymoAlaU?si=xaXTSfMEWUCC9i0I

Just re watched Mike's video. No traffic lights. Goes at virtually the same pace all the way through.
But Jeremy dawdled to the Farm in an emergency situation. He was always known as a reckless driver, so much so that he had carried a passenger on the bonnet for several yards some months previously. It's yet another damning clue to his foreknowledge of what he was about to confront.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #287 on: October 23, 2024, 06:13:PM »
He wouldn't risk being seen by someone in the farm cottages, surely? Or are they obscured by bushes?

Please read reply 284.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #289 on: October 23, 2024, 07:03:PM »
It looks like Wyke Farm has two properties.  Opposite each other. Both are a long way off Pages Lane.

The bigger side has several trees in it's way.

To cycle past these two properties at a good pace will take around 3 seconds.

Even I would take that risk at 2am for the huge rewards.

There is a third set of buildings. These look more like farm sheds.
The Wycke Farm-house (blue pointer on the left) frontage faces East towards Pages Lane, unlike WHF which faces South. But both are very similar in design. Blue pointer on right indicates unoccupied listed barn/farm buildings, as per second photo -

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.7506044,0.8027192,186m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAyMC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

I doubt anyone living on either side of Pages Lane, in farmhouse or cottages, would have been aware of a cyclist passing by at silly o'clock in the night.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #290 on: October 23, 2024, 07:16:PM »
This is very sad. He's a thief, a shoplifter and a public nuisance. But where is the rehabilitation? https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/prisoner-freed-with-12-and-no-possessions-condemns-early-release-i-want-to-go-back-in/ar-AA1sLLzl?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=0c04d048e8a845fb8d24a71369434003&ei=17
Just watched the news Steve. Many people with mental illness are still being failed and go on to kill!

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #291 on: October 23, 2024, 07:17:PM »
The Wycke Farm-house (blue pointer on the left) frontage faces East towards Pages Lane, unlike WHF which faces South. But both are very similar in design. Blue pointer on right indicates unoccupied listed barn/farm buildings, as per second photo -

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.7506044,0.8027192,186m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAyMC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

I doubt anyone living on either side of Pages Lane, in farmhouse or cottages, would have been aware of a cyclist passing by at silly o'clock in the night.

The Wycke Cottages are a long way from Pages Lane.

The properties opposite are also a long way from Pages Lane. And have a lot of trees in front of them.

The other buildings are barns.

Bamber having to spend 3 seconds cycling past them on a silent bike in the dark at 2am, would not deter him. The rewards were worth it.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #292 on: October 23, 2024, 07:30:PM »
Please read reply 284.
Does Wyke Farm include the Pages Lane properties, which accommodated the Foakes' among others?

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #293 on: October 23, 2024, 07:32:PM »
Just watched the news Steve. Many people with mental illness are still being failed and go on to kill!
I can't see any way out of it snow66! I suppose it's cheaper to give them welfare than keep them in prison, but they should receive therapy wherever they are.

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #294 on: October 23, 2024, 07:34:PM »
Does Wyke Farm include the Pages Lane properties, which accommodated the Foakes' among others?

No. Bamber would not pass them cycling the Sea Wall route.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #295 on: October 23, 2024, 07:49:PM »
Too much pissing around.

Going through various fields before reaching the wall

On a ladies bike, in the middle of the night where the visibility is poor.

I'm with Bamber, " laughable" " madness"
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #296 on: October 23, 2024, 07:57:PM »
Interesting though these little titbits may be, I'm not certain how they may add to, or change, anything we already know?

Just highlighting RBs fitness regime.

9 hour walk from carbonells to bourtree cottage

followed by a 37 minute brisk walk to vaulty manor

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #297 on: October 23, 2024, 08:01:PM »
Too much pissing around.

Going through various fields before reaching the wall

On a ladies bike, in the middle of the night where the visibility is poor.

I'm with Bamber, " laughable" " madness"

Why have you put a picture up highlighting 9, Head Street?

The Sea Wall route was on footpaths, cycle paths and farm tracks. On flat terrain.

It was not possible to walk across the fields. Let alone cycle.

All in Wilkinson's WS.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #298 on: October 23, 2024, 08:05:PM »
Why have you put a picture up highlighting 9, Head Street?

The Sea Wall route was on footpaths, cycle paths and farm tracks. On flat terrain.

It was not possible to walk across the fields. Let alone cycle.

All in Wilkinson's WS.

It is the fields before the wall.

Did Wilkinson say he accessed the sea wall from the rear of Bambers property?
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #299 on: October 23, 2024, 08:10:PM »
I am sorry.

It is just not feasible from the rear of his property.
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