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Offline Jane

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #270 on: October 23, 2024, 12:34:PM »
9 hour walk what a fit guy! From wix to goldhanger!


No! Vaulty is only just up the road from Goldhanger. It's almost opposite the Osea Island Holiday Park. It's now a wedding venue and I think Janey and her family live there.

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« Reply #271 on: October 23, 2024, 12:36:PM »
9 hour walk what a fit guy! From wix to goldhanger!


Carbonells is in Wix. Vaulty (Manor) is in Heybridge, just along from Goldhanger.

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« Reply #272 on: October 23, 2024, 12:44:PM »

Carbonells is in Wix. Vaulty (Manor) is in Heybridge, just along from Goldhanger.

It would take 37 minutes to walk from Jeremy's house to Vaulty manor.

9 hours from wix to goldhanger!
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #273 on: October 23, 2024, 12:44:PM »

No! Vaulty is only just up the road from Goldhanger. It's almost opposite the Osea Island Holiday Park. It's now a wedding venue and I think Janey and her family live there.
Yep, there it is along the B1026 Maldon Road -

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.7412832,0.7388475,1904m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAyMC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #274 on: October 23, 2024, 12:46:PM »
Somebody must have dropped him off to have a cuppa with his favourite nephew, who he " loathed intently"

Once he realised Jeremy wasn't in, he did a poirot of Jeremy's back garden discovering June's bike and became a mud specialist and then took a 37 minute saunter to vaulty manor.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #275 on: October 23, 2024, 12:57:PM »
Somebody must have dropped him off to have a cuppa with his favourite nephew, who he " loathed intently"

Once he realised Jeremy wasn't in, he did a poirot of Jeremy's back garden discovering June's bike and became a mud specialist and then took a 37 minute saunter to vaulty manor.


Presumably he didn't phone ahead to see if JB would be there? Or maybe he did.............

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« Reply #276 on: October 23, 2024, 01:00:PM »

Presumably he didn't phone ahead to see if JB would be there? Or maybe he did.............

Says he rocked up and found out Jeremy wasn't in.

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« Reply #277 on: October 23, 2024, 01:21:PM »
Says he rocked up and found out Jeremy wasn't in.


Perhaps deliberately choosing a time when he wasn't? Or Just hoping he wouldn't be?

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #278 on: October 23, 2024, 01:24:PM »
Interesting though these little titbits may be, I'm not certain how they may add to, or change, anything we already know?

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #279 on: October 23, 2024, 02:35:PM »
There are traffic lights on the route 


Where???!!!!

Source please!!!

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« Reply #280 on: October 23, 2024, 02:40:PM »
RB does say that Jeremy's back garden backs on to a path.

RB does also say that after leaving bourtree cottage he walked the track to Vaulty manor. That would take 37 minutes and in the opposite direction.

He must not have had his car with him.

Have said before I would get to the Sea Wall entrance via his back garden & adjoining field.

This avoids all properties on Head Street & Fish Street.

Would then turn off the Sea Wall on the farm track before the prosecutions. Avoiding Wyke Farm.

Amount of properties passed - Zero.
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« Reply #281 on: October 23, 2024, 02:43:PM »
The prosecution & CAL have Bamber cycling different routes.

Julie testified he planned to cycle the Sea Wall.

It was Bamber's choice in 1985.
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« Reply #282 on: October 23, 2024, 02:55:PM »
https://youtu.be/jJWOymoAlaU?si=xaXTSfMEWUCC9i0I

Just re watched Mike's video. No traffic lights. Goes at virtually the same pace all the way through.
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« Reply #283 on: October 23, 2024, 03:27:PM »
The farm track adjoining the Sea Wall before the prosecutions farm track is around 450 metres before.

He would have to take a right off this track. Across two fields. Leading to Pages Lane and simultaneously avoiding Wyke Farm.

The farm track looks fine to cycle.

If the two fields could not be cycled across,  he has the option of walking across them.

Cycling up the farm track which goes straight to Pages Lane and past Wyke Farm is the prosecutions route. Also very possible Bamber cycled this.   
« Last Edit: October 23, 2024, 03:33:PM by Adam »
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #284 on: October 23, 2024, 03:44:PM »
It looks like Wyke Farm has two properties.  Opposite each other. Both are a long way off Pages Lane.

The bigger side has several trees in it's way.

To cycle past these two properties at a good pace will take around 3 seconds.

Even I would take that risk at 2am for the huge rewards.

There is a third set of buildings. These look more like farm sheds.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2024, 03:50:PM by Adam »
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