Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall

[ILB]

Don't know why Adam just doesn't say.

" Yes he had a brand new astra on his driveway and it would have been a 8 minute drive and he wouldn't have been seen but I believe he pissed around on a ladies bike on a populated sea wall in darkness"

[Zoso]

Please give your opinion. Third request.

What do you think of Bamber's reason for bringing the bike to his cottage 2 days before the massacre - so Julie could cycle several miles to get a bus when going home?

I have already said that I think he either walked or drove. I don't think he used the bike but that's not to say he didn't. These are just opinions Adam. I've never given it as much consideration as you have but Bamber seems to me to be a person who would always take the easy path and driving would have been less hassle.

[Adam]

I have already said that I think he either walked or drove. I don't think he used the bike but that's not to say he didn't. These are just opinions Adam. I've never given it as much consideration as you have but Bamber seems to me to be a person who would always take the easy path and driving would have been less hassle.

Ok you don't believe Bamber's reason for bringing the bike over. Which I agree with.

Julie cycling several miles lumbering a suitcase with her instead of getting a taxi or lift,  is about as likely as Nevill ringing up Bamber's AM.

[ILB]

Bamber and Arlidge went over it at trial

Will upload

[Rob_]

You were saying the farm tracks around fields are wide enough for tractors. Which going by Google Maps Satellite I agree with. So certainly fine to walk & cycle.

Not sure what 'public right of way' is supposed to mean. If the terrain was adequate then it was a cycle option.

Please do not pretend you don't know the farm track I am referring to.

You are getting worse Adam, it's rather sad really, although some public rights of way you would be able to cycle on I have never seen anyone doing this.

Of course I don't know the farm track you are referring to and neither do you. You would be able to walk along it, but very doubtful you could cycle along it in the dark.

I was once in a field and someone tapped me on the shoulder making me jump. The chap said any chance of a tow, I turned round and he had a 4x4 bogged up to it's axles. I walked over to his vehicle and soon got him going. Cycling no way!

[Zoso]

Ok you don't believe Bamber's reason for bringing the bike over. Which I agree with.

Julie cycling several miles lumbering a suitcase with her instead of getting a taxi or lift,  is about as likely as Nevill ringing up Bamber's AM.

No, I don't believe that the bike was for Julie.

[Rob_]

So if it was at the Farm on the day of the murders, and Bamber hid it somewhere how did he get back to his house?  Julie say's the Bike wasn't at the house on the 7th so it must have been at the Farm  and say's she never saw it again, ann never seen it till the 22nd of August at Bambers outside the back door.

Could well be he bought the cycle back on the 4th of August for a trial run along the sea wall and he thought "fook that for a game of soldiers"

When do you plan to Power Cycle along the Sea Wall LANCE on your Ladies Cycle in the middle of the Night, i would Personally pay to watch you do it, as i'm sure others on here would.

So would I! and when Adam has finished powering over the rutted farm tracks and long grass a simple inspection of the cycle would show it was obvious what the bike had been used for.

[ILB]

He testified at trial about it.

Will upload the screenshot in due course.

[Adam]

No, I don't believe that the bike was for Julie.

Neither do I or EP.

[Adam]

You are getting worse Adam, it's rather sad really, although some public rights of way you would be able to cycle on I have never seen anyone doing this.

Of course I don't know the farm track you are referring to and neither do you. You would be able to walk along it, but very doubtful you could cycle along it in the dark.

I was once in a field and someone tapped me on the shoulder making me jump. The chap said any chance of a tow, I turned round and he had a 4x4 bogged up to it's axles. I walked over to his vehicle and soon got him going. Cycling no way!

On Google Maps Satellite there is one black field between the other farm track and the prosecutions farm track. I can not make it any easier for you to find.

Everyone on here has to go by the photos, videos and Wilkinson's/RB's WS's. Which shows good cycling terrain. Otherwise  it would not be the prosecution case.

I also directed you to Gunfire Graffiti's vlog who cycled routes but you refused to read it. Which was a bit ignorant of you.

I don't believe ducks or insects maybe being on the route  would deter Bamber, as Yvonne suggested.

[Adam]

ILB's claims of 'steep inclines' has been dismissed. He did not provide a source.

The photos, videos and Wilkinson's WS confirm level terrain. 

[Adam]

ILB's claims of cycling across fields has been dismissed. He did not provide a source.

The Sea Wall is a foot/cycle path.  There is at least one farm track from The Sea Wall onto Pages Lane.

[Hardy Boy]

If the cycle was used at all, did he use it in both directions or did he hide it when he returned which makes it more suspicious?

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4952.0;attach=34828;image

Julie states that when she left to go to London on the Sunday the 4th  the bike was at the House, but when Julie returned on the 7th, the bike WASN'T there..................... she doesn't say she didn't SEE it, she say's it WASN'T there at the house?       She never saw the cycle again.    Ann never seen it at the house till the 22nd of August and it was outside the back door................ if it was outside the back door all the time both Ann and Julie would have seen it earlier?

[ILB]

Adam couldn't dismiss anything.

Thanks Adam for accepting you can find the source.

[Rob_]

You were saying the farm tracks around fields are wide enough for tractors. Which going by Google Maps Satellite I agree with. So certainly fine to walk & cycle.

Not sure what 'public right of way' is supposed to mean. If the terrain was adequate then it was a cycle option.

Please do not pretend you don't know the farm track I am referring to.

Well you certainly don't Adam as you only just recently found out where WHF is.

How many posts have you made on JB cycling the sea wall / farm tracks and you don't know what a public right of way is! You have never looked at a map have you!

You posted recently you knew every footpath within what was it five miles of where you live obviously only the smooth tarmac type.