Sequence of events surrounding the silencer.

[David1819]

The evidence is it was Sheila's blood. With a remote possibility of it being a mixture of Nevill's & June's.

Doubt there was any blood inside WHF when AE was given access. Carpets had been burned & the crime scene cleared up.

But if there was, I'm sure AE was on her hands & knees trying to scrape dried blood up.

I thought AE knew Bamber had told the police the silencer was not attached to the rifle.

Its on page 44 of the witness statement that she cleaned the kitchen floor on august 10th.

[David1819]

I'm just saying he had the technical nous regarding forensics. He also happens to be the other detective complained about in one of the grounds.

[Adam]

Its on page 44 of the witness statement that she cleaned the kitchen floor on august 10th.

'Hoovered the kitchen floor. Then washed the kitchen floor.'

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No mention of blood. She is not going to attempt to hoover blood first.

[killingeve]

David1819, it says here sharks can scent menstrual blood in water so maybe I will have to concede you are onto something 

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/shark-attacks/reduce-risk/menstruation/   

[Adam]

Oh no. The theory that AE saw a documentary about sharks sensing period blood, then had the idea to frame Bamber, will now flood the forum.

[guest29835]

Oh no. The theory that AE saw a documentary about sharks sensing period blood, then had the idea to frame Bamber will now flood the forum.

This could be like my Crispy theory, Adam - a mould-breaker.  I'm still sulking because you didn't recognise my brilliance when I first outlined my Crispy theory and you should have recommended me to the CT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SLb6BdCHlE

[David1819]

David1819, it says here sharks can scent menstrual blood in water so maybe I will have to concede you are onto something 

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/shark-attacks/reduce-risk/menstruation/   

Sharks can sense all blood. They can even differentiate shark blood from other species blood, they are repulsed by former and attracted to the later. Fascinating creatures.

[killingeve]

Oh no. The theory that AE saw a documentary about sharks sensing period blood, then had the idea to frame Bamber, will now flood the forum.

Even worse...it will probably be included in the next submission 

[David1819]

Even worse...it will probably be included in the next submission 

Alcoholly when are you going to stop this trolling?

[guest29835]

Alcoholly when are you going to stop this trolling?

I think you should discipline David for this outburst, Cambridgecutie!  Youngsters like David should be seen and not heard.  Probably a few early morning reveilles and country runs with Real Justice will sort him out!  Up at 5.30 a.m., a cold shower (Baltic style), then a good hard run over the hills.  That'll set him straight!
It's soft justice that's to blame for all this - bring back six of the best!

[Roch]

when are you going to stop this trolling?

You are going to have to just debate the case with CC, like you were doing yesterday / in recent days. Otherwise it will just descend in to a slagging match. 

[Roch]

Or put her on ignore?

[Rob_]

For Rob. Will keep him busy answering each point. David has always refused to answer.

AE would need to know -

Is Bamber innocent.

Sheila's arm lenght.

The rifle lenght with silencer.

Could Sheila have shot herself with the silencer attached.

What back splatter is.

Who of the 5 deceased received contact shots.

What locations would contact shots need to be to produce back splatter.

Where were the contact shots on the 5 deceased.

Is there any other forensic evidence against Sheila.

Was there a silencer next to Sheila.

How to realistically put blood into a silencer.

Where was Sheila's blood to insert into a silencer.

Did the rifle barrell already have blood on/in.

Did the crime scene photos show an unscratched aga.

How to realistically scratch the aga.

Had the police already checked all silencers at WHF.

The chance of this one piece of framed evidence getting a conviction.

The punishment if caught doing this.

Confidence the other relatives that none would succumb to police pressure.

Sheila's blood group.

The blood group of each other.

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This had to be found out very quickly. Providing AE had the idea & decided to go ahead

I have tried to answer you questions Adam:

AE would need to know -

Is Bamber innocent.
She just had to believe Sheila could not commit the crime so it had to be JB, she thought she was helping justice prevail.

Sheila's arm lenght.
No need to know this, if Sheila’s blood was in the silencer then it had to be JB who committed the crime.

The rifle lenght with silencer.
This is immaterial, as said above if Sheila’s blood is in the silencer this is enough to convict JB.

Could Sheila have shot herself with the silencer attached.
Yes several ways, even if her arms were not long enough though this is not proven I believe? I have seen video's of a girl the same height as Sheila able to reach the trigger with the silencer on

What back splatter is.
No need to know  anything about back spatter, a layman in the street would assume that a very close range / contact shot is highly lightly to result in traces of blood etc. getting into the barrel.

Who of the 5 deceased received contact shots.
Why does this matter it was 1985 not today with DNA technology

What locations would contact shots need to be to produce back splatter.
All that mattered was that human blood was in the silencer with a possibility it was Sheila’s, who understood back spatter back then not even MF!

Where were the contact shots on the 5 deceased.
Not important she knew that all shots were close range.

Is there any other forensic evidence against Sheila.
You know the answer to this .

Was there a silencer next to Sheila.
If there was they would claim JB just switched them, the ploy would still work.

How to realistically put blood into a silencer.
Quite easy in those days to do this and not get found out, but much more difficult with today’s technology to do this and get away with it.

Where was Sheila's blood to insert into a silencer.
It’s not known for certain it was Sheila’s blood.

Did the rifle barrell already have blood on/in.
Who knows? Maybe animal blood?

Did the crime scene photos show an unscratched aga.
Yes

How to realistically scratch the aga.
easy!

Had the police already checked all silencers at WHF.
The relatives would just claim the Police missed it in their initial search.

The chance of this one piece of framed evidence getting a conviction.
It would show it was not suicide, and put the spotlight on JB which it did.

The punishment if caught doing this.
How could it be proven? Any human blood in the silencer and JB takes the hit.

Confidence the other relatives that none would succumb to police pressure.
Did they know? DB probably suspected hence his bad memory.

Sheila's blood group.
Not important it was 1985, even now it’s not certain it was Sheila’s blood in the silencer.

The blood group of each other.
Not relevant, four other victims were shot at very close range.

[David1819]

I have tried to answer you questions Adam:

AE would need to know -

Is Bamber innocent.
She just had to believe Sheila could not commit the crime so it had to be JB, she thought she was helping justice prevail.

Sheila's arm lenght.
No need to know this, if Sheila’s blood was in the silencer then it had to be JB who committed the crime.

The rifle lenght with silencer.
This is immaterial, as said above if Sheila’s blood is in the silencer this is enough to convict JB.

Could Sheila have shot herself with the silencer attached.
Yes several ways, even if her arms were not long enough though this is not proven I believe? I have seen video's of a girl the same height as Sheila able to reach the trigger with the silencer on

What back splatter is.
No need to know  anything about back spatter, a layman in the street would assume that a very close range / contact shot is highly lightly to result in traces of blood etc. getting into the barrel.

Who of the 5 deceased received contact shots.
Why does this matter it was 1985 not today with DNA technology

What locations would contact shots need to be to produce back splatter.
All that mattered was that human blood was in the silencer with a possibility it was Sheila’s, who understood back spatter back then not even MF!

Where were the contact shots on the 5 deceased.
Not important she knew that all shots were close range.

Is there any other forensic evidence against Sheila.
You know the answer to this .

Was there a silencer next to Sheila.
If there was they would claim JB just switched them, the ploy would still work.

How to realistically put blood into a silencer.
Quite easy in those days to do this and not get found out, but much more difficult with today’s technology to do this and get away with it.

Where was Sheila's blood to insert into a silencer.
It’s not known for certain it was Sheila’s blood.

Did the rifle barrell already have blood on/in.
Who knows? Maybe animal blood?

Did the crime scene photos show an unscratched aga.
Yes

How to realistically scratch the aga.
easy!

Had the police already checked all silencers at WHF.
The relatives would just claim the Police missed it in their initial search.

The chance of this one piece of framed evidence getting a conviction.
It would show it was not suicide, and put the spotlight on JB which it did.

The punishment if caught doing this.
How could it be proven? Any human blood in the silencer and JB takes the hit.

Confidence the other relatives that none would succumb to police pressure.
Did they know? DB probably suspected hence his bad memory.

Sheila's blood group.
Not important it was 1985, even now it’s not certain it was Sheila’s blood in the silencer.

The blood group of each other.
Not relevant, four other victims were shot at very close range.

Give it about week and Adam will paste the same questions saying nobody has yet answered them.

[lookout]

I'd like to see how and where those 3 adults first died because I don't believe that they'd been found in the positions that we're led to believe.