Julie Mugford - the (lying) Criminal, exposed...

[Jackiepreece]

Kaldin
I definately agree on certain points it's frustrating for me to and yes I am wrong to call it an accident I can't seem to say I think Sheila was a murderer.

Oh god another relative of the Boutflours they must be running out of strange names now and I didn't think I had said anything controversial I'm out of here I think an hour run to clear my head.

[tut tut]

Thankyou Kaldin for that and mb1 I wonder when Maxine Carr is going back to her little teaching assistant job because what she wasn't too bad was it !!!!!!
Don't compare petty crime with mass murder and was jb involved in the cheque book fraud


For Julie mugford crime certainly did pay it bought her a flat and while we are on the subject Julie mugfords dad said in an  interview around the time of the 2002  appeal  said he was disgusted jb was allowed to appeal and said jb  should stay in prison for the rest of his life.

Julie mugford great daughter he must be so proud

You seem very angry at Miss Mugford, have you ever tried Yoga Jackie?

Silly comment tut tut and unworthy of you. 

only coping Jackies reponce to someone else the other day as there is a clear hatred for Mugford from her, so not silly, infact if she knows anything just say or shut up about it as what is the point??

[tut tut]

Kaldin
I definately agree on certain points it's frustrating for me to and yes I am wrong to call it an accident I can't seem to say I think Sheila was a murderer.

Oh god another relative of the Boutflours they must be running out of strange names now and I didn't think I had said anything controversial I'm out of here I think an hour run to clear my head.

Either put up or shut up if you know anything as it's becoming quite boring now.

[Kaldin]

Thankyou Kaldin for that and mb1 I wonder when Maxine Carr is going back to her little teaching assistant job because what she wasn't too bad was it !!!!!!
Don't compare petty crime with mass murder and was jb involved in the cheque book fraud


For Julie mugford crime certainly did pay it bought her a flat and while we are on the subject Julie mugfords dad said in an  interview around the time of the 2002  appeal  said he was disgusted jb was allowed to appeal and said jb  should stay in prison for the rest of his life.

Julie mugford great daughter he must be so proud

You seem very angry at Miss Mugford, have you ever tried Yoga Jackie?

Silly comment tut tut and unworthy of you. 

only coping Jackies reponce to someone else the other day as there is a clear hatred for Mugford from her, so not silly, infact if she knows anything just say or shut up about it as what is the point??

I don't know about hatred, but Julie Mugford didn't behave too well did she? By her own admission, she went around with someone who she later said was a murderer for a whole month - going out for dinner, going on holiday, etc. By her own admission she witheld evidence from the police and shielded someone she later said was a murderer, thereby allowing a lot of evidence to be destroyed, and allowing a lot of people to think that Sheila had killed her own family. By her own admission, she sold her story to a newspaper, and no matter what her excuse for doing so, she used the money to buy a flat. It's not a great biography is it?

[tut tut]

She's a liar it's a disgrace that she benefitted out of all this and she probably tried to  blame the hitman because maybe him and Jeremy maybe went out picking up girls together. If definitive prove  comes out (say undisclosed documents) I hope that she can still be bought back to England and charged. If she was telling the truth she could have given the money to Colin caffell to help him start a new life without his two sons she could have prevented getting killed (remember when she said Jeremy told her tonights the night).
Think about it if Jeremy got out of prison tomorrow he probably might not have the chance to have children.

So this is Julie mugford she either

Lied and made the whole thing up and ruined someones life could she couldn't have them

Went along even on the day thinking two little boys would be slaughtered and she would have known they would be killed if Jeremy wanted all the inheritance

British justice makes me sick

She is the most vile and disgusting human being

now who's being nasty, your comments i find vile and she is not lying and you are a disgrace. Try the Yoga you keep putting out dear. To blame a young girl with mental health problems for the killings is the most sickest thing in the world, Evidence has been look at by experts over and over again and still he's found guilty, He's still lying about Police logs that show they were just passing his message on to make it look like the father called, .
My God you want to grow up.

[tut tut]

Thankyou Kaldin for that and mb1 I wonder when Maxine Carr is going back to her little teaching assistant job because what she wasn't too bad was it !!!!!!
Don't compare petty crime with mass murder and was jb involved in the cheque book fraud


For Julie mugford crime certainly did pay it bought her a flat and while we are on the subject Julie mugfords dad said in an  interview around the time of the 2002  appeal  said he was disgusted jb was allowed to appeal and said jb  should stay in prison for the rest of his life.

Julie mugford great daughter he must be so proud

You seem very angry at Miss Mugford, have you ever tried Yoga Jackie?

Silly comment tut tut and unworthy of you. 

only coping Jackies reponce to someone else the other day as there is a clear hatred for Mugford from her, so not silly, infact if she knows anything just say or shut up about it as what is the point??

I don't know about hatred, but Julie Mugford didn't behave too well did she? By her own admission, she went around with someone who she later said was a murderer for a whole month - going out for dinner, going on holiday, etc. By her own admission she witheld evidence from the police and shielded someone she later said was a murderer, thereby allowing a lot of evidence to be destroyed, and a allowing a lot of people to think that Sheila had killed her own family. By her own admission, she sold her story to a newspaper, and no matter what her excuse for doing so, she used the money to buy a flat. It's not a great biography is it?

No but it doesn't mean she is lying and nothing is as bad as trying to sell topless photos of his dead sistr is it. How Vile is that.

[tut tut]

Thankyou Kaldin for that and mb1 I wonder when Maxine Carr is going back to her little teaching assistant job because what she wasn't too bad was it !!!!!!
Don't compare petty crime with mass murder and was jb involved in the cheque book fraud


For Julie mugford crime certainly did pay it bought her a flat and while we are on the subject Julie mugfords dad said in an  interview around the time of the 2002  appeal  said he was disgusted jb was allowed to appeal and said jb  should stay in prison for the rest of his life.

Julie mugford great daughter he must be so proud

You seem very angry at Miss Mugford, have you ever tried Yoga Jackie?

Silly comment tut tut and unworthy of you. 

only coping Jackies reponce to someone else the other day as there is a clear hatred for Mugford from her, so not silly, infact if she knows anything just say or shut up about it as what is the point??

I don't know about hatred, but Julie Mugford didn't behave too well did she? By her own admission, she went around with someone who she later said was a murderer for a whole month - going out for dinner, going on holiday, etc. By her own admission she witheld evidence from the police and shielded someone she later said was a murderer, thereby allowing a lot of evidence to be destroyed, and allowing a lot of people to think that Sheila had killed her own family. By her own admission, she sold her story to a newspaper, and no matter what her excuse for doing so, she used the money to buy a flat. It's not a great biography is it?

Bamber already had the idea about making things look like a crime, remember how he made up the Caravan park break in and that was against his own family then, was this start of things to come. Why shouldn't she sell he story, everyone does and at least she has got her head down and got on with life as everyone makes mistakes in life and she has come good. Why is it Bamber says everyone else is lying like the Police etc, what had they to gain from it, would have been easy for them just to leave it as suicide. Yes 100's are lying apart from him.

[Hartley]

What's the capital of Norway?

[chochokeira]

Thankyou Kaldin for that and mb1 I wonder when Maxine Carr is going back to her little teaching assistant job because what she wasn't too bad was it !!!!!!
Don't compare petty crime with mass murder and was jb involved in the cheque book fraud


For Julie mugford crime certainly did pay it bought her a flat and while we are on the subject Julie mugfords dad said in an  interview around the time of the 2002  appeal  said he was disgusted jb was allowed to appeal and said jb  should stay in prison for the rest of his life.

Julie mugford great daughter he must be so proud

You seem very angry at Miss Mugford, have you ever tried Yoga Jackie?

Silly comment tut tut and unworthy of you. 

only coping Jackies reponce to someone else the other day as there is a clear hatred for Mugford from her, so not silly, infact if she knows anything just say or shut up about it as what is the point??

I don't know about hatred, but Julie Mugford didn't behave too well did she? By her own admission, she went around with someone who she later said was a murderer for a whole month - going out for dinner, going on holiday, etc. By her own admission she witheld evidence from the police and shielded someone she later said was a murderer, thereby allowing a lot of evidence to be destroyed, and allowing a lot of people to think that Sheila had killed her own family. By her own admission, she sold her story to a newspaper, and no matter what her excuse for doing so, she used the money to buy a flat. It's not a great biography is it?

+1 Kaldin, good post

[andrea]

its oslo hartley

[chochokeira]

She's a liar it's a disgrace that she benefitted out of all this and she probably tried to  blame the hitman because maybe him and Jeremy maybe went out picking up girls together. If definitive prove  comes out (say undisclosed documents) I hope that she can still be bought back to England and charged. If she was telling the truth she could have given the money to Colin caffell to help him start a new life without his two sons she could have prevented getting killed (remember when she said Jeremy told her tonights the night).
Think about it if Jeremy got out of prison tomorrow he probably might not have the chance to have children.

So this is Julie mugford she either

Lied and made the whole thing up and ruined someones life could she couldn't have them

Went along even on the day thinking two little boys would be slaughtered and she would have known they would be killed if Jeremy wanted all the inheritance

British justice makes me sick

She is the most vile and disgusting human being

now who's being nasty, your comments i find vile and she is not lying and you are a disgrace. Try the Yoga you keep putting out dear. To blame a young girl with mental health problems for the killings is the most sickest thing in the world, Evidence has been look at by experts over and over again and still he's found guilty, He's still lying about Police logs that show they were just passing his message on to make it look like the father called, .
My God you want to grow up.

Tut Tut, if anyone is spouting anger and hate around here, it seems to me it's you.

[Hartley]

Aaaah I just found out It's Oslo.


Everybody being friendly to each other tonight?

[Hartley]

its oslo hartley

Thanks Andrea, I'm just being daft though. 

[andrea]

oh, ive just logged on after waking up and saw the question 

[chochokeira]

When everyone read JB s letter to mike a lot of people thought it wasn't very nice but I didn't at all I totally understand what he was saying and I am sure mike knows lots more than he puts on here but if JB asks him not to he can't and he wouldn't.  JB even gives the impression that the ccrc are trying to point out exactly what he needs to get an appeal.  I know nothing in depth about the legal system except my horrendous experience as a juror. But I know stuff is happening  but I don't even ask anything anymore in case I say something that I shouldn't but as I have saud before the best thing ever to come out of this would be the whole thing was a tragic accident.  I am confused now when I read people saying it's too late for new evidence to be considered even if it's significant.  I couldn't say something on here when I have been told something in confidance and Mike must find it so difficult when he can't put certain things on here because he has been asked not too.  I did find the reaction to JB s letter to mike very strange because I am sure they disagree on a number of points but mike and JB were locked up together for a long time and mike probably understands JB better than anyone and has absolute belief there has been a miscarriage of justice so I trust mike when he cannot answer everything

I agree with you, Jackie, Mike simply cannot reveal everything he knows or all of the data he has, Jeremy Bamber's legal team will almost certainly have stipulated that and Mike must respect that.

With the prosecution having access to thousands of documents to which the defence are denied access, it's not hard to understand why the defence would not wish to reveal all aspects of their case. The prosecution, thanks to the much abused system of pii, are holding most of the aces. So the defence would be crazy to reveal all of theirs.