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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: Lest We Forget...................
« Reply #210 on: August 13, 2020, 09:27:PM »
What's your view of Bamber's police interviews?
There's a thread on this somewhere. He was on the defensive, cagey, not offering information. Too many "no comments" for my liking.

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« Reply #211 on: August 13, 2020, 09:31:PM »
There's a thread on this somewhere. He was on the defensive, cagey, not offering information. Too many "no comments" for my liking.
At first Steve not under caution  he was very open in his detail about Sheila’s past troubles, trying to sow seeds.

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« Reply #212 on: August 13, 2020, 09:56:PM »
He did not dispute that Sheila could not have shot herself twice.

Obviously he was there & knew she was knocked out but still breathing & may have died eventually from the first shot.

So he accused Crispy, reflexes & that Nevill may have said 'She' on the phone.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #213 on: August 14, 2020, 04:58:AM »
He did not dispute that Sheila could not have shot herself twice.

Obviously he was there & knew she was knocked out but still breathing & may have died eventually from the first shot.

So he accused Crispy, reflexes & that Nevill may have said 'She' on the phone.

Thanks Adam.  Looks like Jeremy beat me to it.

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« Reply #214 on: August 14, 2020, 06:28:AM »
There's a thread on this somewhere. He was on the defensive, cagey, not offering information. Too many "no comments" for my liking.

Jeremy giving information = Guilty.

Jeremy not giving information = Guilty.

Thanks Steve.  It does make sense.  I also never knew that saying No Comment was an indicator of guilt.  Thanks.

Offline lookout

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« Reply #215 on: August 14, 2020, 03:15:PM »
As I've said before---too much given information gives police carte blanche to elaborate on what was said so that's why the " no comment " is advised then nothing can be added to what's not said. Elementary.

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« Reply #216 on: August 14, 2020, 03:31:PM »
It was very surprising Bamber instantly said Nevill may have said 'She' in his 4 second phone call.  After being told she could not have shot herself twice.

He had spent the last month insinuating Sheila!
« Last Edit: August 14, 2020, 03:40:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #217 on: August 14, 2020, 03:38:PM »
It was very surprising Bamber instantly said Nevill may have said 'She' in h8s 4 second phone call.  After being told she could not have shot herself twice.

He had spent the last month insinuating Sheila!

Thanks Adam.  It's a good job you're here to pull me back from the brink.  I was about to book a train to Wakefield.  (P.S. My dossier on Crispy is almost ready.  Code-named 'Barking'.  I think we're almost there for the CCRC 'reasonable doubt' angle).

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Re: Lest We Forget...................
« Reply #218 on: August 14, 2020, 03:55:PM »
Thanks Adam.  It's a good job you're here to pull me back from the brink.  I was about to book a train to Wakefield.  (P.S. My dossier on Crispy is almost ready.  Code-named 'Barking'.  I think we're almost there for the CCRC 'reasonable doubt' angle).

What Adam is saying is not even true. Jeremy used the term “she has” in his August statement.

It’s been pointed out to him before

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10110.msg471467.html#msg471467

Yet doesn’t stop him from repeating this distortion he has created.

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« Reply #219 on: August 14, 2020, 04:05:PM »
What Adam is saying is not even true. Jeremy used the term “she has” in his August statement.

It’s been pointed out to him before

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10110.msg471467.html#msg471467

Yet doesn’t stop him from repeating this distortion he has created.

When before?

I am referring to his interview transcripts. When he didn't bother disputing or trying to find out more when told Sheila could not have shot herself a second time. Quickly blaming Crispy & saying Nevill may have said 'she'.

Anyway 'she has' is the same.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #220 on: August 14, 2020, 04:16:PM »
When before?

I am referring to his interview transcripts. When he didn't bother disputing or trying to find out more when told Sheila could not have shot herself a second time. Quickly blaming Crispy & saying Nevill may have said 'she'.

Anyway 'she has' is the same.

Thanks Adam.  I agree that Jeremy should have remembered every detail of the call.  He should have had his pocketbook with him, like Stan.

Offline lookout

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« Reply #221 on: August 14, 2020, 04:20:PM »
Who wakes up suddenly at 3am all bright and breezy ready to go ? Nobody to my mind ! Not even me when I've had a long-haul journey ahead of me.

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« Reply #222 on: August 14, 2020, 04:28:PM »
Basic questions Bamber could have asked when told Sheila could not have shot herself twice -

Was Sheila shot twice?

Who says it was not possible? 

Could the person be wrong?

Are there alternative views?

Can I see evidence or speak to the expert it's not possible.

How did Sheila end up with two shots if it was impossible ?

Have you got the evidence Sheila was shot twice ?

Where were Sheila's two shots ?

Was the rifle powerful enough to prevent a two shot suicide ?

Have two shot suicides happened before ?

Who else could have shot Sheila?

Do you have any other suspects then?

Do you need any other assistance regarding any other suspects?

Could it have been a break in?

I thought I saw Sheila, alive by the window inside WHF. Could the police have shot her upon entrance.

Have you checked to see if the two bullets were the same?

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All this would be after the original shock & confusion.

Instead he just said it could have been Crispy & Nevill may have said 'she' on the phone.

« Last Edit: August 14, 2020, 04:37:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #223 on: August 14, 2020, 04:59:PM »
Basic questions Bamber could have asked when told Sheila could not have shot herself twice -

Was Sheila shot twice?

Who says it was not possible? 

Could the person be wrong?

Are there alternative views?

Can I see evidence or speak to the expert it's not possible.

How did Sheila end up with two shots if it was impossible ?

Have you got the evidence Sheila was shot twice ?

Where were Sheila's two shots ?

Was the rifle powerful enough to prevent a two shot suicide ?

Have two shot suicides happened before ?

Who else could have shot Sheila?

Do you have any other suspects then?

Do you need any other assistance regarding any other suspects?

Could it have been a break in?

I thought I saw Sheila, alive by the window inside WHF. Could the police have shot her upon entrance.

Have you checked to see if the two bullets were the same?

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All this would be after the original shock & confusion.

Instead he just said it could have been Crispy & Nevill may have said 'she' on the phone.

Thanks Adam.  Jeremy was definitely in the wrong in not having all these questions prepared.  To be honest, I think he should have instructed his own pathologist to go over the crime scene with Ann.  Why trust the police? 

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Re: Lest We Forget...................
« Reply #224 on: August 14, 2020, 05:13:PM »
Why trust the police indeed ? Look what happened in the Ian Tomlinson case !