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Offline Jane

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« Reply #195 on: August 13, 2020, 03:17:PM »
Why was a big man so scared ? In what way did Tora think that Sheila had changed ?


If you're referring to the time Sheila became ill whilst he was with her, I don't think his size is relevant. I can fully understand that if he felt himself to be in a situation over which he had no control, he'd have felt pretty helpless. Should he stay? Should he go? Should he try to calm her down? Should he leave he to come out of it on her own? Should he call a doctor? Colin? Her parents? Might she then calm down and be furious with him? Sheila wasn't his responsibility. He was in an invidious position. He could do the wrong thing by trying to do the right thing.

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« Reply #196 on: August 13, 2020, 03:19:PM »
AE had said she couldn't put beans on toast.


Maybe they only tasted her food without getting to see the mess she created whilst preparing it?

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« Reply #197 on: August 13, 2020, 03:49:PM »

If you're referring to the time Sheila became ill whilst he was with her, I don't think his size is relevant. I can fully understand that if he felt himself to be in a situation over which he had no control, he'd have felt pretty helpless. Should he stay? Should he go? Should he try to calm her down? Should he leave he to come out of it on her own? Should he call a doctor? Colin? Her parents? Might she then calm down and be furious with him? Sheila wasn't his responsibility. He was in an invidious position. He could do the wrong thing by trying to do the right thing.





Even her friend saw the difference in her on her last visit, so something must have been amiss at that time which wasn't long before the murders. Sheila was in a bad place, without having the support and understanding from anyone. What alternative did she have ? She was a tortured soul.

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« Reply #198 on: August 13, 2020, 04:42:PM »
AE had said she couldn't put beans on toast.
My wife says that about me Lookout.  I must admit I think she had coordination problems and the drugs would have enhanced this.  Did Sheila learn to drive or could she drive Lookout?

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« Reply #199 on: August 13, 2020, 05:02:PM »
My wife says that about me Lookout.  I must admit I think she had coordination problems and the drugs would have enhanced this.  Did Sheila learn to drive or could she drive Lookout?





Sheila and driving hasn't ever been mentioned RJ. I can only assume that the interest was never there.

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« Reply #200 on: August 13, 2020, 05:14:PM »




Sheila and driving hasn't ever been mentioned RJ. I can only assume that the interest was never there.
Thanks Lookout, I find that interesting, a farmers daughter not driving and no interest in shooting, maybe she lacked confidence, coordination and social skills from a young age?

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« Reply #201 on: August 13, 2020, 05:40:PM »
Thanks Lookout, I find that interesting, a farmers daughter not driving and no interest in shooting, maybe she lacked confidence, coordination and social skills from a young age?





Because someone didn't have an interest in shooting didn't mean that they couldn't shoot. The same with driving. Sheila was as used to guns in her life as she was with vehicles.

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« Reply #202 on: August 13, 2020, 05:48:PM »




Because someone didn't have an interest in shooting didn't mean that they couldn't shoot. The same with driving. Sheila was as used to guns in her life as she was with vehicles.
She probably could do both Lookout, the driving requires a little more confidence and coordination though?  She probably had no interest and was just happy to let others run her about?  I would have thought money wouldn’t have been an object if she wanted to drive or have her own car, so there must have been a reason why she didn’t drive?

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« Reply #203 on: August 13, 2020, 05:57:PM »




Because someone didn't have an interest in shooting didn't mean that they couldn't shoot. The same with driving. Sheila was as used to guns in her life as she was with vehicles.


I think the words I read were "she couldn't learn to drive". Make of that what you will. It can be interpreted as you wish.

 It simply does not follow that if one grows up watching something being done, one can automatically do it. I grew up watching  a talented knitter. She tested out patterns for magazines. My only attempts at knitting resulted in the stitches having to be cut from the needle. Need I bring the adoption factor into it? Sheila had no more natural/genetic/interest/ability in firearms than had I in knitting.

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« Reply #204 on: August 13, 2020, 06:27:PM »




Because someone didn't have an interest in shooting didn't mean that they couldn't shoot. The same with driving. Sheila was as used to guns in her life as she was with vehicles.

Sheila didn't drive either.
Few people have the imagination for reality

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« Reply #205 on: August 13, 2020, 06:40:PM »

I think the words I read were "she couldn't learn to drive". Make of that what you will. It can be interpreted as you wish.

 It simply does not follow that if one grows up watching something being done, one can automatically do it. I grew up watching  a talented knitter. She tested out patterns for magazines. My only attempts at knitting resulted in the stitches having to be cut from the needle. Need I bring the adoption factor into it? Sheila had no more natural/genetic/interest/ability in firearms than had I in knitting.





Adopted or not children will eventually go their own way, so no, adoption isn't relevant in whatever a child's future is once they become an adult.

That crime scene was a bloodbath, whereas a person used to shooting wouldn't have created such a scene. It was frenzied shooting, proof enough that Sheila hadn't been used to using guns.


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« Reply #206 on: August 13, 2020, 06:56:PM »




Adopted or not children will eventually go their own way, so no, adoption isn't relevant in whatever a child's future is once they become an adult.

That crime scene was a bloodbath, whereas a person used to shooting wouldn't have created such a scene. It was frenzied shooting, proof enough that Sheila hadn't been used to using guns.


Or it was frenzied shooting because Jerermy, an expert marksman, made it look as if Sheila, who wasn't, did it.

Re adoption. We receive our genetics from our biological parents/families, not our parents by adoption. What we pick up from those is learned behaviour. There are some behaviours we'll have no interest in learning.

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« Reply #207 on: August 13, 2020, 07:16:PM »




Adopted or not children will eventually go their own way, so no, adoption isn't relevant in whatever a child's future is once they become an adult.

That crime scene was a bloodbath, whereas a person used to shooting wouldn't have created such a scene. It was frenzied shooting, proof enough that Sheila hadn't been used to using guns.
She did well, to come out unscathed and lack of forensics (blood, residue) from such a bloodbath

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« Reply #208 on: August 13, 2020, 07:29:PM »
She did well, to come out unscathed and lack of forensics (blood, residue) from such a bloodbath





She would do, being the shooter. She was in control---holding the rifle.

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« Reply #209 on: August 13, 2020, 07:39:PM »




She would do, being the shooter. She was in control---holding the rifle.


What applies to Sheila also applies to Jeremy. They both had time to clean up/have a shower/change their clothes -although it's a mystery where Sheila's ended up.