Conflicting Statements

[guest7363]

Where does jeremy say they were arguing. Just re read his statements and he said there was a discussion about the twins future and how sheila could be helped , but she was not really participating , she was just sitting there ? He says roughly the same in three statements . Of course discussions can be robust but he does not make it sound like that ?

Its in Colin’s girlfriends  statement and Anne’s statement Jan.  I’ve posted both statements, Jeremy’s statement I’ve posted on the day it happened he says they were happy?

[susan]

Thank you Notsure.  I agree dwelling on an incident can destroy your life you have to put it in a box and put the lid on.  I need a New Year and to try and put 2019 behind me not easy is it but has to be done

[Jan]

Its in Colin’s girlfriends  statement and Anne’s statement Jan.  I’ve posted both statements, Jeremy’s statement I’ve posted on the day it happened he says they were happy?

 He just says they were basically having a discussion and Sheila not really getting involved. I guess one persons discussion is another persons argument . But he does not appear to be setting a scenario of discord. Sounds a bit like Chinese whispers .

[Kaldin]

You'd think that Jeremy would claim that Sheila was in a rage wouldn't you? After all, he wanted everyone to think that she shot everyone in a rage/psychotic episode.

[guest7363]

He just says they were basically having a discussion and Sheila not really getting involved. I guess one persons discussion is another persons argument . But he does not appear to be setting a scenario of discord. Sounds a bit like Chinese whispers .

Have you read the same one as me Jan, he says everyone was happy no one appeared distressed?

[notsure]

Tell me about it notsure, where do you want me to start.  It made me think then about your problem it was awful for you, it’s hard to  put things behind you and well done you, what’s your secret?  I thought coming back to the forum might help, I’m afraid it hasn’t so I won’t be staying for the ride anymore, to be honest I’ve got better things to do.

oh i am sorry RJ, yes it’s hard but what choice do we have. i don’t have a secret and it’s left me with some scars but i open the box put it in and shut the door. every now and again it come up and i let it out but believe me it soon goes back in the box. i don’t want it to hurt me anymore so that’s where it stays most of the time. so get yourself a box albeit imaginary.

i’m sorry your feeling that way, sleep on it though and remember this is just a forum, what’s the worst that can happen!
xx

[guest7363]

Have you read the same one as me Jan, he says everyone was happy no one appeared distressed?

Sorry I’m trying to watch football at same time 😂😂

[notsure]

Thank you Notsure.  I agree dwelling on an incident can destroy your life you have to put it in a box and put the lid on.  I need a New Year and to try and put 2019 behind me not easy is it but has to be done

oh blimey susan so do i, i had major surgery 2 months ago and although i’ve recovered it’s been a hell of a year. i want it done with and some good things to happen so here’s to 2020 being good for us xx

[guest7363]

oh i am sorry RJ, yes it’s hard but what choice do we have. i don’t have a secret and it’s left me with some scars but i open the box put it in and shut the door. every now and again it come up and i let it out but believe me it soon goes back in the box. i don’t want it to hurt me anymore so that’s where it stays most of the time. so get yourself a box albeit imaginary.

i’m sorry your feeling that way, sleep on it though and remember this is just a forum, what’s the worst that can happen!
xx

Oh the forum doesn’t bother me, I just think what a waste, the innocent are probably right in asking why we’re here, I ain’t going to ever change with what’s on offer to me here notsure. I’m really  interested about the box thing thing though, sounds interesting.

[lookout]

oh blimey susan so do i, i had major surgery 2 months ago and although i’ve recovered it’s been a hell of a year. i want it done with and some good things to happen so here’s to 2020 being good for us xx

I hope all goes well for you Notsure x I seem to remember that all wasn't well for the past couple of years.

[Jan]

Have you read the same one as me Jan, he says everyone was happy no one appeared distressed?

Yes . He firstly says they were just discussing the twins future . Then when he returned after missing the rabbits  they seemed happy not arguing . This is repeated in his next statement as well . So the argument scenario seems to come from third parties and not him so what is your point ? He did not “set up a situation “ that would implicate Sheila wanting revenge or being angry as far as I can see?

[guest7363]

Yes . He firstly says they were just discussing the twins future . Then when he returned after missing the rabbits  they seemed happy not arguing . This is repeated in his next statement as well . So the argument scenario seems to come from third parties and not him so what is your point ? He did not “set up a situation “ that would implicate Sheila wanting revenge or being angry as far as I can see?

My point being, how does he get it wrong from heated arguing to they were happy, he’s clearly telling one story to one audience and another story to police, there is a vast difference in it.  It’s well known within the guilty that they were supposedly arguing about fostering, yet in his police interview he says they were happy and no one appeared distressed?  You have to remember he wasn’t a suspect on his first interview so he didn’t need to play it up, maybe he thought he would play it up with Anne and Colin’s girlfriend?

[Jan]

My point being, how does he get it wrong from heated arguing to they were happy, he’s clearly telling one story to one audience and another story to police, there is a vast difference in it.  It’s well known within the guilty that they were supposedly arguing about fostering, yet in his police interview he says they were happy and no one appeared distressed?  You have to remember he wasn’t a suspect on his first interview so he didn’t need to play it up, maybe he thought he would play it up with Anne and Colin’s girlfriend?

But we only have their words that he actually said that ? Perhaps it is them embellishing his words ?

What I am saying is that it would have suited his scenario to make out sheila was angry and looking for a fight but that is not the scene he presented to the police is it ?

The fostering scenario was proven to be true later  in documents so that was perfectly plausible. If he is telling the truth it’s probably why he was taken back by the call later as when he left there was nothing to make him think there was going to be trouble.

[guest7363]

But we only have their words that he actually said that ? Perhaps it is them embellishing his words ?

What I am saying is that it would have suited his scenario to make out sheila was angry and looking for a fight but that is not the scene he presented to the police is it ?

The fostering scenario was proven to be true later  in documents so that was perfectly plausible. If he is telling the truth it’s probably why he was taken back by the call later as when he left there was nothing to make him think there was going to be trouble.

I think we have to take from it how we see it, you have your opinion and I have mine at the end of the day.

[JackieD]

I was involved in an accident once where a group of people were hit by a motorcycle resulting in one serious injury . I gave a factual statement and in fact had written down notes when I got home about the weather conditions etc. Later the rider was accused of running into us deliberately . All of a sudden other factors about what happened earlier in the evening and at the time became even more important. Sometimes it’s not just changing a statement it’s about adding bits or looking at it in a different light.

However Barbara Wilson giving Jeremy a complete personality transplant to me is totally not acceptable.

Good to keep pointing that out