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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #120 on: October 17, 2017, 09:31:PM »
I can see why he would be sarcastic under pressure.  One month later, he finds himself in an incredulous situation, having the screw turned on him by the same service he had originally turned to for help; the same service that pursued a siege; and the same service that had then entered the property armed, only to return with news that everyone was dead.   

I think it's ironic that he blamed the TFG immediately upon being informed of the deaths.. when one month later, neither he nor any subsequent legal representative were aware, that TFG themselves had raised "real concerns" as a team regarding the repositioning of Sheila's crime scene by other officers.
It is indeed, since it was he himself who had instigated the train of events which unfolded that morning. True that law enforcement made mistakes, but the callousness of Jeremy Bamber belies belief, as he sat in the back of a Police car discussing Porsche cars, their glossy brochures sprawled out on the coffee table at Bourtree Cottage filling his Walter Mitty head, whilst the brains of Daniel and Nicholas lay splayed on the wallpaper in the bedroom not a hundred yards from where he was reclined.
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #121 on: October 17, 2017, 10:04:PM »
It is indeed, since it was he himself who had instigated the train of events which unfolded that morning. True that law enforcement made mistakes, but the callousness of Jeremy Bamber belies belief, as he sat in the back of a Police car discussing Porsche cars, their glossy brochures sprawled out on the coffee table at Bourtree Cottage filling his Walter Mitty head, whilst the brains of Daniel and Nicholas lay splayed on the wallpaper in the bedroom not a hundred yards from where he was reclined.

If you actually done your research. You would discover that the police brought up those topics to try and keep Jeremy's mind off the events in the farm house.

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #122 on: October 17, 2017, 10:21:PM »
If you actually done your research. You would discover that the police brought up those topics to try and keep Jeremy's mind off the events in the farm house.
..and if you'd done your research you'd know that Jeremy Bamber introduced the subject of a £38000 Porsche to PC Lay, and that glossy brochures of such luxury models were adorning the coffee table in the lounge of Bourtree Cottage.
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #123 on: October 17, 2017, 10:22:PM »
The Defence has got desperate again tonight..

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #124 on: October 17, 2017, 10:28:PM »
I thought he was talking about a model car - I read that somewhere.

Anyway, when did this discussion take place? After the bodies had been found or before? How long had brochures been out at Jeremy's house?

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #125 on: October 17, 2017, 10:31:PM »
I thought he was talking about a model car - I read that somewhere.

Anyway, when did this discussion take place? After the bodies had been found or before? How long had brochures been out at Jeremy's house?
It's in Julie's statement somewhere. Bamber was evidently taking his mind off the carnage he had created by focussing on the spoils of murder.

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #126 on: October 17, 2017, 10:37:PM »
It's in Julie's statement somewhere. Bamber was evidently taking his mind off the carnage he had created by focussing on the spoils of murder.

Not dissimilar to Simon Hall sitting at the kitchen table having a chat and a cup of tea with his mother

"He went straight home, a journey of some 5 minutes. His mother was up when he arrived and they spent 10 minutes over a cup of tea. Mrs Hall gave evidence that the microwave clock was faulty; her son arrived home, she said, at 6.10 – 6.15 am. There was, on the prosecution case, an unexplained interval of an hour. http://www.homepage-link.to/Justice/Hall/index.html
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #127 on: October 18, 2017, 07:52:AM »
..and if you'd done your research you'd know that Jeremy Bamber introduced the subject of a £38000 Porsche to PC Lay, and that glossy brochures of such luxury models were adorning the coffee table in the lounge of Bourtree Cottage.

You xxxxx you know the truth
Kaldin was right Jeremy was talking about a kit car

You are so desperate to make sure Julie's lies don't unfold
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Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #128 on: October 18, 2017, 08:26:AM »
You xxxxx you know the truth
Kaldin was right Jeremy was talking about a kit car

You are so desperate to make sure Julie's lies don't unfold

But I doubt he was talking about a table-top model. Porche "kit-cars" like Morgans, don't come cheap.
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #129 on: October 18, 2017, 08:34:AM »
I thought he was talking about a model car - I read that somewhere.

Anyway, when did this discussion take place? After the bodies had been found or before? How long had brochures been out at Jeremy's house?

I think many have run away with the idea that he was after some sort of "Air-Fix" kit. The legendary kit car is, of course, the Morgan, but Porche have their own version, the initial cost being thousands before paying for it to be built.

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #130 on: October 18, 2017, 10:08:AM »
Do you know what ? I think you should all get in touch with the legal team and tell them what you've written/posted here because it seems that you've cracked the case.
Tell them that they're all wasting their time,money and highly-trained expertise,along with the practicing QC ( what would he know ?  ::)

 

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #131 on: October 18, 2017, 10:22:AM »
Do you know what ? I think you should all get in touch with the legal team and tell them what you've written/posted here because it seems that you've cracked the case.
Tell them that they're all wasting their time,money and highly-trained expertise,along with the practicing QC ( what would he know ?  ::)

Lookout, not for one moment do I believe that there's this legal team devoting 100% of their time to the Jeremy Bamber case, especially if they're working pro bono, they'll be fitting it in as and when. I'm sure we've all experienced that there's time and then there's solicitor/legal time. I'm certain it's as much of an exercise for trainees -albeit- overseen by the more experienced. It certainly won't be the end of their worlds when it collapses round their ears. It will undoubtedly have been a worthwhile learning curve.

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #132 on: October 18, 2017, 10:31:AM »
Lookout, not for one moment do I believe that there's this legal team devoting 100% of their time to the Jeremy Bamber case, especially if they're working pro bono, they'll be fitting it in as and when. I'm sure we've all experienced that there's time and then there's solicitor/legal time. I'm certain it's as much of an exercise for trainees -albeit- overseen by the more experienced. It certainly won't be the end of their worlds when it collapses round their ears. It will undoubtedly have been a worthwhile learning curve.







A " learning curve " after 30+ years in law ?

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #133 on: October 18, 2017, 10:41:AM »
Has there ever been a case where a " mass murderer " has sat in the car with the police discussing buying a Porsche ?? After allegedly murdering the family for money ?

Then why isn't JB in an institution for the mentally deranged ? Because at that moment when he was discussing the car,he was severely mentally ill and nobody noticed.?

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #134 on: October 18, 2017, 10:42:AM »






A " learning curve " after 30+ years in law ?

Well, I'm of the opinion that we can ALL learn something new, however much we may think we know more than others. However, whilst there will undoubtedly be several uber-learned amongst legal team, Jeremy's case hardly qualifies as being important enough for them to down tools on all their other commitments, hence the need for interns.