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Offline Stephanie

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #150 on: October 18, 2017, 12:29:PM »
Quote from: Adam on October 18, 2017, 12:23:PM
Bamber was not a dog hater. He had a dog called Brambles who he was fond of.

However he wanted nothing to do with Crispy.

when did Bamber get Brambles

What's the back story on Brambles

What happened to Brambles

What does Bamber recall of his memories of Bramble - where's his blog of Bramble
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #151 on: October 18, 2017, 12:30:PM »
Quote from: Jane J on October 18, 2017, 12:24:PM
What do you think IS a kit-car if not a "road worthy" one?


Charactor traits: blatant disregard for the safety of others
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #152 on: October 18, 2017, 12:33:PM »
Crispy's history as I understand it. A dog not universally liked. Of indifferent temperament. Given to nipping ankles. Old, smelly, grumpy.
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #153 on: October 18, 2017, 12:35:PM »
Quote from: Stephanie on October 18, 2017, 12:29:PM
when did Bamber get Brambles

What's the back story on Brambles

What happened to Brambles

What does Bamber recall of his memories of Bramble - where's his blog of Bramble

I don't know much about Brambles. It is just referred to in the police interviews.

There was no chance of Bamber taking in Crispy. He had too many holidays planned.

Bamber didn't shoot or attempt to shoot Crispy, as he was an inheritance killer. Crispy was about to put down or given to another family.

Bamber hitting a moving target like Crispy would also highlight Sheila's impressive rifle co ordination which no one knew she had.

However as mentioned it is very surprising an aggatated Sheila didn't fire at a hyperactive dog. The twins & June were not exactly hyperactive & she shot them 15 times.
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #154 on: October 18, 2017, 12:36:PM »
Quote from: Stephanie on October 18, 2017, 12:30:PM

Charactor traits: blatant disregard for the safety of others


Don't know if that assessment covers them all, but, at the time it was de rigueur for young blades to roar around in kit cars.
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #155 on: October 18, 2017, 12:38:PM »
Quote from: Jane J on October 18, 2017, 12:33:PM
Crispy's history as I understand it. A dog not universally liked. Of indifferent temperament. Given to nipping ankles. Old, smelly, grumpy.







I hope you didn't have me in mind when describing the dog. :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) You probably did. ???
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #156 on: October 18, 2017, 12:40:PM »
 Criminally minded/criminally versatile - weed cultivation and supply of a controlled substance

 Blatant disregard for the feelings of others - burglary and robbing from his own family

 Promiscuity - numerous short term relationships, one night stands, relationships with men, cheating on    partners

 Grandiose sense of himself

 Grandiose sense of entitlement - as evidence re his obsession with money

 Blatant disregard for the safety of others

 Anti social behaviour

 Animal cruelty

 Smear campaigns

 Glib, superficial charm
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #157 on: October 18, 2017, 12:43:PM »
Quote from: Jane J on October 18, 2017, 12:36:PM

Don't know if that assessment covers them all, but, at the time it was de rigueur for young blades to roar around in kit cars.

Anti social behaviour
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #158 on: October 18, 2017, 12:44:PM »
Quote from: lookout on October 18, 2017, 12:38:PM






I hope you didn't have me in mind when describing the dog. :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) You probably did. ???

Ya got me there, Lookout!!!!  :-[ but only after you mentioned it first :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #159 on: October 18, 2017, 12:59:PM »
Quote from: Jane J on October 18, 2017, 12:33:PM
Crispy's history.

Yes.

I wonder how many other canines are discussed some 32 years after their passing.
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #160 on: October 18, 2017, 01:09:PM »
Quote from: Jane J on October 18, 2017, 12:33:PM
Crispy's history as I understand it. A dog not universally liked. Of indifferent temperament. Given to nipping ankles. Old, smelly, grumpy.

Crispy must be, or have been, a popular name for a dog as coincidentally that was the name of Simon Halls victims dog  :(
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #161 on: October 18, 2017, 06:28:PM »
Quote from: Steve_uk on October 17, 2017, 10:31:PM
It's in Julie's statement somewhere. Bamber was evidently taking his mind off the carnage he had created by focussing on the spoils of murder.

Yes, but when was he discussing the car? Before the bodies were found?
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #162 on: October 18, 2017, 07:15:PM »
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #163 on: October 18, 2017, 07:34:PM »
Quote from: Steve_uk on October 18, 2017, 07:15:PM
It's here: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zV3WCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA170&lpg=PA170&dq=jeremy+bamber+pc+lay&source=bl&ots=jQz_L0BdvW&sig=F6NS_8gn1igNBhqSjWlh6N9nG2w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi59eeOyfrWAhWCzBoKHWrsCSUQ6AEIXDAN#v=onepage&q=jeremy%20bamber%20pc%20lay&f=false

It's interesting that it appears to have been Bews who ordered the ambulances -not a 999 call at 6.09 from inside the house- and the £3,800 Porche kit car was allegedly going to be a present from Nevill. It seems I have to reread the book.
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #164 on: October 18, 2017, 08:15:PM »
why wouldent crispy have bitten jeremy if had brocken in.
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