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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #180 on: September 23, 2017, 12:50:PM »
OK, like nothing bad had happened. She went to Colin's for the weekend with Jeremy and went out for a meal with several people, she went to Eastbourne with Jeremy, she helped him load up the van with stuff from the house, she went out for meals with Jeremy and others, she had him back to stay at her house, she went to the farm with him to comfort him when he went there for the first time after the murders, she went to the funeral wearing a rather ostentatious veil and held Jeremy's arm like he was a victim, she went shopping in Colchester with her mate, she stayed at Jeremy's house ...

Need I go on?

Perhaps this suggests that Julie didn't know that JB was responsible for the murders at that stage?

Even given the fantasy chats about sleeping tablets, etc, that went before, it must have been quite unbelievable for her to think he actually did it.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #181 on: September 23, 2017, 12:52:PM »
What would I expect? I'd expect to be in a state, but I'd think it was maybe a coincidence after all he'd said, and that maybe Sheila had done it. After he told me that he hired someone to do it, I wouldn't be running off to him, I'd be running the other way. He clearly wasn't pleading with her to see him later because he dumped her.

It's the veil - it was just a fashion accessory too far.

Julie wore a veil at a funeral. Bamber must be innocent.

She was in a state after Bamber told her MM did it. Then she told 5 people what she knew after 20 days.

Not sure what the problem is.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #182 on: September 23, 2017, 01:01:PM »
Perhaps this suggests that Julie didn't know that JB was responsible for the murders at that stage?

Even given the fantasy chats about sleeping tablets, etc, that went before, it must have been quite unbelievable for her to think he actually did it.

how could she not know if he had told her before the murders he was going to do it.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #183 on: September 23, 2017, 01:11:PM »
how could she not know if he had told her before the murders he was going to do it.

You don't know what she was told or whether she believed him.

The crime scene 'appeared' to suggest Sheila was responsible, this was the view of the police initially and this is what was reported by the media.

So it's possible that she wasn't sure JB was responsible initially, but became certain and went to the police.

Even afterwards JB doesn't admit it to her.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #184 on: September 23, 2017, 01:13:PM »
You don't know what she was told or whether she believed him.

The crime scene 'appeared' to suggest Sheila was responsible, this was the view of the police initially and this is what was reported by the media.

So it's possible that she wasn't sure JB was responsible initially, but became certain and went to the police.

Even afterwards JB doesn't admit it to her.

well if he told her what he was going to do and then it happened it shouldn't of been hard to work out.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #185 on: September 23, 2017, 01:15:PM »
well if he told her what he was going to do and then it happened it shouldn't of been hard to work out.

She did work it out. Then told 5 people 20 days after the massacre & the police a few days later.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #186 on: September 23, 2017, 01:19:PM »
Julie wore a veil at a funeral. Bamber must be innocent.

She was in a state after Bamber told her MM did it. Then she told 5 people what she knew after 20 days.

Not sure what the problem is.

I didn't say that, and I've told you what the problem is.

She was in such a state that she carried on going out for meals, going away for weekends, going shopping, staying at Jeremy's, and spending the weekend with the father of two murdered children.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #187 on: September 23, 2017, 01:19:PM »
well if he told her what he was going to do and then it happened it shouldn't of been hard to work out.

Again, you do not know what she was told.
You are making too many assumptions to arrive at your preferred conclusion.

There is certainly a scenario where Julie initially didn't know that JB actually carried out the murders. Even afterwards he eventually only tells her that it was MacDonald.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #188 on: September 23, 2017, 01:20:PM »
Perhaps this suggests that Julie didn't know that JB was responsible for the murders at that stage?

Even given the fantasy chats about sleeping tablets, etc, that went before, it must have been quite unbelievable for her to think he actually did it.

She claimed that she did know that he was responsible though - all the time she was carrying on as if it was nothing to do with him.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #189 on: September 23, 2017, 01:20:PM »
Again, you do not know what she was told.
You are making too many assumptions to arrive at your preferred conclusion.

There is certainly a scenario where Julie initially didn't know that JB actually carried out the murders. Even afterwards he eventually only tells her that it was MacDonald.

from her statements I do well if there true of course.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #190 on: September 23, 2017, 01:22:PM »
Again, you do not know what she was told.
You are making too many assumptions to arrive at your preferred conclusion.

There is certainly a scenario where Julie initially didn't know that JB actually carried out the murders. Even afterwards he eventually only tells her that it was MacDonald.

People are fond of asking how they would have behaved in Julie's shoes, the first thoughts would for me be disbelief.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #191 on: September 23, 2017, 01:22:PM »
She did work it out. Then told 5 people 20 days after the massacre & the police a few days later.

She didn't need to work it out, according to her own statement. She said that Jeremy told her that he got McDonald to do it. She said he told her that on the evening of 7th August.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #192 on: September 23, 2017, 01:23:PM »
I didn't say that, and I've told you what the problem is.

She was in such a state that she carried on going out for meals, going away for weekends, going shopping, staying at Jeremy's, and spending the weekend with the father of two murdered children.

That is correct. For 20 days.

Julie didn't ask to be whisked to WHF on the massacre morning. And no doubt didn't ask to be whisked around by Bamber as he partied. I have already said Bamber had to plead her to accompany him sometimes.
 
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #193 on: September 23, 2017, 01:23:PM »
Again, you do not know what she was told.
You are making too many assumptions to arrive at your preferred conclusion.

There is certainly a scenario where Julie initially didn't know that JB actually carried out the murders. Even afterwards he eventually only tells her that it was MacDonald.

Oh well that was OK then - he only got someone else to do it for him.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #194 on: September 23, 2017, 01:24:PM »
People are fond of asking how they would have behaved in Julie's shoes, the first thoughts would for me be disbelief.

Yes, maybe for a day, but not for several weeks.