And so, to the truth about what Cook wrote on the exhibit label of silencer...

[mike tesko]

Did Mike teach you how to read?  Whiddon didn't say anything about a moderator being found on September 11.

He noted that he was verbally told about the moderator, he was told Jones recovered it Yes, "Stan Jones" collected that silencer from the scene on the 7th August 1985. He was given the 4 SBJ exhibits to take them back to head quarters by PS Woodcock (a Special Branch Officer), hence why those 4 exhibits have been deliberately kept separate from all the other exhibits in the main investigation - these 4 exhibits were to be retained under Special Branch Jurisdiction, Amen... and that it was at the lab. He wa snot told the date it was found or anything else so he left those fields blank.

[scipio_usmc]

es, "Stan Jones" collected that silencer from the scene on the 7th August 1985. He was given the 4 SBJ exhibits to take them back to head quarters by PS Woodcock (a Special Branch Officer), hence why those 4 exhibits have been deliberately kept separate from all the other exhibits in the main investigation - these 4 exhibits were to be retained under Special Branch Jurisdiction, Amen.

Jones recovered the moderator from Oak Farm on August 12. He didn't take anything from WHF on Aug 7. You thus have no evidence to prove your claims to be true.  You keep repeating the sale made up allegations without any proof because you r claims are untrue thus it is impossible for you to prove them.

[mike tesko]

Jones recovered the moderator from Oak Farm on August 12. He didn't take anything from WHF on Aug 7. You thus have no evidence to prove your claims to be true.  You keep repeating the sale made up allegations without any proof because you r claims are untrue thus it is impossible for you to prove them.

Chummy, I do not tell lies...

The fact is that DS Jones did leave Jeremys cottage at just after 11 am, on the 7th August 1985, to go back to the scene. He recieved a message from the scene to go back there immediately. Upon arrival there he took possession of the 4 items all bearing the Special Branch Jurisdiction references of 1, 2, 3 and 4, namely, SBJ/1 (a silencer), SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4...

I know my facts about this case, back to front, inside out, and yet you say Stan Jones never left Jeremys cottage at all that morning, but he did chummy, he did. Once back at the scene, Special Branch officer, PS Woodcock, handed the silencer and theother exhibits to him, to be taken back to head quarters as part of the evidence into an impending review into the shooting of Sheila Caffell. "SBJ" refers not to Stanley Brian Jones, but to "Special Branch Jurisdiction"...

[mike tesko]

There is no doubt whatsoever, that a silencer was seized at the scene by Stan Jones on 7th August 1985, and that DS Jones collected it from the scene on this occasion. I am prepared to accept that DS Stan Jones, also collected the other silencer from Peter Eaton at Oak farm on the evening of the 12th August 1985, but they were different silencers, definitely not the same one. The way I see it, the first silencer which Stan Jones collected from the scene on the 7th August was "SBJ/1", the second silencer handed to Stan Jones by Peter Eaton on the 12th August is " SJ/1" (the one Glen is Howard found human blood upon it. Not to be forgotten or overlooked is the fact that according to Ron Cook, he states that he checked the gun cupboard in the downstairs office on the first morning of the shootings, and he told the COLP investigators in 1991 that there was definitely no silencer in that gun cupboard when he looked inside and searched it on the 7th August, which raises the question that if it was not in that gun cupboard, where else could it be? Who had possession of it, and how did human blood get onto it...

[mike tesko]

The silencer which Cook dismantled, rebuilt, and screwed onto the barrel of the gun had a piece of white paper fastened around the circumference of the silencer tube, marked, "SJ/1"...

[mike tesko]

The silencer which Cook dismantled, rebuilt, and screwed onto the barrel of the gun had a piece of white paper fastened around the circumference of the silencer tube, marked, "SJ/1"...

What becomes Clear is that when Ron dismantled " SJ/1”, there was no blood present inside it on any of the ¹7 baffle plates, otherwise Ron would have been credited with the finding of the blood inside the silencer before it got señt to the làb', rather than credit for discovering it by Fletcher and the blood expert on the 11th September 1985...

[Caroline]

What becomes Clear is that when Ron dismantled " SJ/1”, there was no blood present inside it on any of the ¹7 baffle plates, otherwise Ron would have been credited with the finding of the blood inside the silencer before it got señt to the làb', rather than credit for discovering it by Fletcher and the blood expert on the 11th September 1985...

Mike, do you have a statement from Brett Collins?

[maggie]

Mike, do you have a statement from Brett Collins?

I know Mike had a record of the interview of Brett Colins by the police, am certain he put it up on the forum a few years ago and have asked him to post it again but he never has and I have never been able to find the posts.

[mike tesko]

Mike, do you have a statement from Brett Collins?

Yes, and records of his police interviews under cau5ion...

[maggie]

Yes, and records of his police interviews under cau5ion...

Can you post up BCs interviews/statement etc. please Mike.

[scipio_usmc]

There is no doubt whatsoever, that a silencer was seized at the scene by Stan Jones on 7th August 1985, and that DS Jones collected it from the scene on this occasion.

You have not one shred of evidence so claiming there is no doubt is laughable.  There is no doubt only 1 moderator was at WHF at the time of the murders.  There is nothing at all to refute the testimony of those involved that it was found by Boutflour in the closet and turned over to Jones on Aug 12.  You have nothing at all to contradict any of this.  Your claims that there is "no doubt" is just made up nonsense.  There is nothing at all to suggest Jones collected a moderator on Aug 7 the only moderator at the scene was found days later and there are no records at all of anyone collecting a moderator on Aug 7 let alone Jones doing so.  Jones didn't collect any physical evidence on the day of the murders only the crime scene officers did so.

I am prepared to accept that DS Stan Jones, also collected the other silencer from Peter Eaton at Oak farm on the evening of the 12th August 1985, but they were different silencers, definitely not the same one. The way I see it, the first silencer which Stan Jones collected from the scene on the 7th August was "SBJ/1", the second silencer handed to Stan Jones by Peter Eaton on the 12th August is " SJ/1" (the one Glen is Howard found human blood upon it. Not to be forgotten or overlooked is the fact that according to Ron Cook, he states that he checked the gun cupboard in the downstairs office on the first morning of the shootings, and he told the COLP investigators in 1991 that there was definitely no silencer in that gun cupboard when he looked inside and searched it on the 7th August, which raises the question that if it was not in that gun cupboard, where else could it be? Who had possession of it, and how did human blood get onto it...

There was only 1 moderator at WHF during the murders

There was only 1 moderator at WHF to be collected.

There never was any moderator marked SJ/1  Cook was going to mark the Boutflour discovered moderator SJ/1 but learned Jones' full initials so used SBJ/1.

This is what the evidence proves.  Howard tested SBJ/1 she wrote it on her documentation.  You ignore this evidence and falsely claim Cook admitted he labeled it SJ/1 and then make up that there was another collected days earlier marked SBJ/1 though you have nothing to support this allegation it is just made up from thin air.  Despite having zero evidence you then announce there is no doubt this happened though there is really no doubt it is fictional. Sometimes you lie and claim police or the family saw AP's rifle at the scene with the moderator missing and us this in support of your claims but such lies don't amount to evidence they just hurt you because making up things reduces your credibility to zero.

Post for everyone what SBJ/2-4 are.  You keep claiming that these 3 objects were taken from WHF on Aug 7 along with the moderator.  Some things I have read suggest they were simply photos not objects physically taken from anywhere. In any event they were from a period subsequent to Aug 13 so it makes little sense to claim they were taken on Aug 7.  The things you make up are entirely worthless to Jeremy in a legal sense.  You seem to be out to just fool us and build yourself up to us though when you make up things it accomplishes the opposite.

[Caroline]

Yes, and records of his police interviews under cau5ion...

Would you post them please?

[maggie]

Yes, and records of his police interviews under cau5ion...

Would be really grateful if you would post the docs relating to Brett Collins interviews by the police please Mike.  You posted them a few years ag but can't find them now. 

[mike tesko]

Can you post up BCs interviews/statement etc. please Mike.

OK

[maggie]

OK

Cheers Mike.