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Re: A time to take stock....
« Reply #166 on: February 27, 2016, 01:52:PM »
"There is a war going on between manipulative liars and compassionate truth tellers, between psychopaths and empaths. Which side are you on? This also begs the question: are you lying to yourself, which happens to be one of the most difficult questions to answer honestly, but ask it you must, lest you fall too easily into the hands of the nearest con artist or snake-oil salesman. Beware the tyranny of habit. Be not inflexible. The more elastic and fluid you are, the more you’ll stay afloat when the crushing waters of vicissitude come crashing through, and the more you’ll be prepared to be a beacon of hope for others. Change is not easy, it never has been. But change is inevitable. We either wreck ourselves and the world trying to prevent it, or we adapt and overcome in order to evolve with it.
Read more at http://www.wakingtimes.com/2015/01/22/psychopath-vs-empath-war-truth-deception/#SIA5fqskxSO2IalE.99


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Re: A time to take stock....
« Reply #168 on: February 27, 2016, 09:47:PM »
"What now for MOJs following Simon Hall’s confession?
Published August 11, 2013 | By admin

http://www.wronglyaccusedperson.org.uk/2013/08/mojs-simon-halls-confession/

I'm of the belief Billy Middleton wrote the above because of his own agenda and because he knew I believed he had intentionally set fire to the house that killed his baby daughter - My belief of him angered him.

I believe he wrote the blog in the way he did because he too is a con artist.

I believe he thought by writing this blog it would garner him more support at the time, whether it be good or bad support. He was attempting to play certain people off against each other imo.

I further believe him to be a dangerous individual who's motives are not genuine. My belief (or opinion), but it's what I've believed for a very long time.

I've heard and seen him in action attempting to play the 'victim.' I've watched how he leeches on to vulnerable individuals. I've also seen how his words don't match his actions.
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Re: A time to take stock....
« Reply #169 on: February 27, 2016, 10:35:PM »
"Controllers, abusers & manipulative people don’t ask themselves if the problem is them. They always say the problem is YOU...
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« Reply #170 on: February 28, 2016, 03:44:AM »
Sandra, did you help (or have any influence) with what Billy Middleton wrote above, or did you proof read it before he posted it? Or was it all of his own doing?

I'm waiting for your answer Sandra.
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« Reply #171 on: February 28, 2016, 04:51:AM »
By Billy Middleton (in black)

So did everyone who actually knows the case with the exception of retired SIO Roy Lambert, who has now found a voice on the subject and started proclaiming arrogantly in the media to have never once doubted Simon’s guilt, did everyone else including myself, those involved in the Rough Justice documentary, the CCRC, the DPP and many, many others get it wrong? YES - they all got it wrong! That includes you Billy Middleton! SIO Roy Lambert got the right man - however the motive was sexual as opposed to a burglary gone wrong!



It’s possible, and without knowing the circumstances and details of the confession it can’t be and mustn’t be ruled out. See above


However despite how readily people think ‘no one would confess if they didn’t do it’, that can’t be ruled out either, not least because just one of the many pieces of evidence pointing away from Simon’s guilt is that someone else confessed many years ago before Simon was convicted No one confessed many years ago - SH & the Hall family threw that suggestion in at the very beginning in order to attempt to take away the heat from SH! Which is where the deception started.


– quite simply one of them must be false, SH was guilty so the other was a red herring!

yet even then Roy Lambert didn’t doubt his assumption that Simon was guilty because Roy Lambert was right all along - Roy Lambert had obviously recognised the dysfunctional family dynamics very early on!


 and perhaps that’s why none of the other strands of evidence which potentially could have linked that person to the crime were never followed up – there were no other strands of evidence unless you are referring to the metal pole found in next doors garden (used to smash the window) which was never forensically tested and the excrement found in the back garden 


because he was so sure he was right and everyone else was wrong. He was right and everyone else was wrong!


DNA, fingerprints, there was no DNA or fingerprints - SH was forensically aware (not unlike yourself  http://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2009/03/20/only-fiend-could-murder-baby-trial) and had put his socks on his hands and disposed of everything he wore that morning on the Monday - the leather jacket, shirt, trousers, shoes, socks the lot..

footprints along the accepted escape route found at the scene, none of which matched Simon’s, Yes they did - the footprints did belong to SH - he had disposed of the shoes he wore that night so the police were unable to match the prints to any of the shoes he did have. He was not wearing boots as Lynn Hall suggested in her statement - she was wrong/or lying

stomach contents pointing to an earlier time of death wrong

which coincided with a disturbance heard by many neighbours, wrong again

not a trace with the exception of the infamous flock fibres which formed the sole basis of the prosecution’s case against him hence Mr Starmer’s continued quote “The one crucial link is the fibre evidence. Break this and the case disappears.”. You would expect then that the fibre evidence was strong and compelling, yet one slide claimed by the original experts to contain 1000+ such fibres actually contained absolutely none, zero, zilch, de nada, squat, when the CCRC’s expert reviewed it, other slides were broken and stuck together with sticky tape, and what had been described as lime green polyester was actually carbon black. That is the credibility of the fibre evidence and the only evidence Roy Lambert could present so sure as he was of Simon’s guilt in the face of everything else, and it is that level of contradiction of the original evidence that the appeal courts upheld his conviction on describing the original forensics as ‘incomplete’ rather than completely and utterly false. Whilst the green fibres were carbon black as opposed to green - they did belong to SH. He did go into Tesco's earlier that day to buy a new pair of trousers - SH described it as a 'fluke' that the police failed to pick him up on the CCTV. Tiernan Coyle was wrong. SH did not admit to the Zenith burglary until November 2012. SH & the Hall family sat on this evidence. SH eventually stated he did not tell the police or his legal team about the burglary through fear the fibres at Zenith would match the fibres at the murder scene.

SH had a history for violence.



It’s as if in some people’s eyes,  Simon’s change of plea has miraculously also morphed every forensically testable trace of his being including his DNA to match all of the evidence pointing away from him, the fibre evidence ceases to have any meaning, and all of the questions so many experienced people had have been answered. See above

Which is more probable, that after Simon’s last appeal was rejected, knowing that it was the best chance he was ever going to have, which was followed my months and months of psychological abuse and mind games by the person who drove every last one of the thousands of supporters he had away with vile and malicious on and offline feuds such that he finally couldn’t take any more, he cracked, These are your own projections Billy Middleton. How could I have driven thousands and thousands of supporters away one by one. Can you expand on this? The mind games and psychological abuse you have referred is what SH did to me. Not the other way round. From the moment I learned of the zenith burglary the mind games and psychological abuse increased in order to keep me from figuring it all out. When someone is caught telling lie after lie they eventually run out of excuses. I would however like you to expand on the vile and malicious on and offline feuds, if you can. If you are referring to you and me I have already explained - I believe you are a con artist who murdered your baby daughter after setting 2 fires in your house if you are referring to me and the family of SH - they weren't honest and the smear campaign they instigated against me was in order to stop the truth from surfacing and their secrets from coming out - not dissimilar to you and your secrets


 or that Roy Lambert was right all along despite all of the evidence to the contrary and everyone else was wrong? I don’t discount the possibility that I’m wrong, but I remain as yet unconvinced that I am of course you do because you are one of those people who would never admit to your wrong doing

and if further details are forthcoming I will reassess it then no you won't, you aren't man enough to admit you made it up you will disappear and go quiet like you always do when caught out lying

That doesn’t mean I don’t respect the fact that a confession has been made or refuse to accept it no matter what, that's exactly what it means - as I've said before Billy Middleton would never admit to his wrong doings

I’m simply unconvinced on the evidence that it’s true or that it was made by a sound mind Again your own projections Billy Middleton and not dissimilar to the way you 'played things' after you started those fires. People like you who have ulterior motives and agendas need to continually deceive others in order to stop your own crimes and secrets from being exposed.

 – particularly considering he was in receipt of medication for depression No he wasn't!

and had recently been rushed to hospital following an overdose which may or may not have been accidental. He confessed in July he overdosed in February

I personally lost respect for Simon some time ago but I didn’t lose the compassion and humanity I would need to before I could ignore the above, the facts of the past don’t get erased by the words of the present. I lost respect for you when I realised you are a con artist who likes to play the victim when caught out lying and you are a man who preys on the vulnerabilities of others. I believe you should have been found guilty, not - not proven! You got away with murder imo. I do not believe you capable of showing compassion or humility to anyone! You are a fraud and a coward! Imo you are a pariah. You think of yourself before others. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/fury-as-dad-of-annalise-middleton-sets-1019199#FqAESWytkXCzZ8ee.97 You latched on to the wrongly accused for personal gratification and self gain.
Why did you loose respect for SH? By failing to expand on this you are further deceiving others. You lost respect for SH for a reason.. Why?


http://www.wronglyaccusedperson.org.uk/2013/08/mojs-simon-halls-confession/
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Re: A time to take stock....
« Reply #172 on: February 28, 2016, 02:12:PM »
I'm beginning to feel your pain Stephanie

Never mind me Marty - what about Mrs Albert's memory and her surviving relatives? Imagine how they must feel? What they were put through.

Imagine if after his confession I told the media I still believed he was innocent? Knowing what I then knew?

Some peoples motives and agendas sicken me!

Rock and a hard place spring to mind

I'm still waiting for you to answer my questions Marty - You've suggested I'm in a difficult situation and because of this I have to make a hard decision.

Why would you suggest this when you did?

What difficult situation do you see me in?

What's difficult about telling the truth?
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Re: A time to take stock....
« Reply #173 on: February 28, 2016, 04:24:PM »
And once the inquest is over - I'll reveal who was behind 'The Real Mrs H' blog... (Though their identity may well come out before then)

Who was behind the above post where they state "since speaking to the family I know he has lied to everyone...

Incidentally there is a blog online not dissimilar to the 'real Mrs H blog.' It's difficult to tell the 2 apart. The content of the one blog confirms the projections of the other. Thus giving away the authors identity.
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Re: A time to take stock....
« Reply #175 on: February 29, 2016, 06:25:PM »
Incidentally there is a blog online not dissimilar to the 'real Mrs H blog.' It's difficult to tell the 2 apart. The content of the one blog confirms the projections of the other. Thus giving away the authors identity.

It would probably help if I were to post up some old screen shots for comparison.
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« Reply #176 on: February 29, 2016, 07:48:PM »
Many, many people discussed Simon's mental state at the time of the confession, and between the confession and his death, both privately and publicly (online).

But only a handful of people questioned the validity of his blogs - and you now appear to be suggesting you are one of that handful  ::)

By that stage, everything about Simon was relayed through the filter of Stephanie - Simon didn't "blog about" anything - he was in prison - Stephanie blogged on his behalf.

I think I should post the blogs up again along with the actual transcript of the CCRC's interview with SH taken from April 2013 about his blogs that he dictated to me and which I typed word for word and publicly posted because he asked me to do so.

Here's a few of one posters questions about the validity of the blogs... No guessing for what motivated this individual..  ::)




"Standing by your husband is all well and good and to be admired.
Do you realise the damage these blogs are doing to his case? Yes people are reading them because it is like car crash TV.
I cannot believe what I am reading in relation to this case.
This has to STOP! your husband said in one of the blogs that if people want to talk about anyone talk about him and the case. This is not happening.
I am sorry but these blogs do not talk about the case. They make him look bad. If you love your husband like you say you do, then you should pull these blogs right off the net. 
Your husbands situation is that if this continues he will be sent back to a higher cat prison because of these blogs and their revelations.
What should be discussed is the evidence not all this nonsense."



"Seriously you think this is doing Simon justice? Gaining him support?"



"What is more terrible is that you are allowing someone who is in prison without full access to what is happening online, to tell write to you and ask you to post what has been posted.
I cannot say strongly enough that this stuff being posted is DAMAGING TO SIMON. and you posting it on his behalf are helping to damage him further. I cannot be any straighter in what I say.
Is Simon aware of everything posted? I mean do you send him EXACT copies of everything?
If you really love him stop him from doing this. It is not helping and thats the Gods honest truth"



"I want to ask a question. Is there written proof that Simon wrote these blogs?"



"Is there written proof that Simon wrote these blogs? Can we see his hand written letters or typed ones scanned ?"



"I am asking you since you are the person who typed it all up. You must have had something to copy from so can we see what you copied from in his own hand writing?
surely she would not fake three blogs from him and send them to reporters. facebook and twitter?"



"Stephanie Hall If Simon REALLY said everything that is in those blogs, then please now show us what he wrote to you that you typed up to post on your blog.
If you cannot show us by scanning these letters like you have with other letters then we are left wondering if they are actually true."



"The question is simple. Do you have proof he wrote ANY of this blog?"



"DO YOU HAVE PHYSICAL PROOF THAT SIMON WROTE THESE BLOGS YOU ALLEGE TO HAVE COPIED?
the question is simple. yes or no is the answer."



"so did you or did you not take time to type up what Simon said in his letter? Why can't you answer this simple question? Can we have what Simon says in his own handwriting and scanned online?
Are you refusing to say that you sat for hours typing something up for the internet but cannot give us proof Simon actually said it?  Especially after the alerts from you telling us it would happen soon."



"If you are telling the truth that Simon Hall wrote these blogs exactly as you have published them then you would have no problem saying that you copied his exact words nor would you have any problem in showing us all the hand written version from Simon himself. You see anyone can write any old thing online."



"So if you cannot show proof these letters came from Simon then that affects the validity of them all."



"In fact I would go as far to say that most people actually post ACTUAL letters from prisoners to show that yes they came from them
The fact you cannot post these letters publicly shows that they probably do not exist. So the next question is where do the exact words from the blogs come from since it takes you so long to type them up?"



"DO YOU HAVE PHYSICAL PROOF THAT SIMON HALL WROTE THOSE BLOGS?? PLEASE SHOW US IT"



"No I have never wrote to the prison.
But the question still stands do you have proof Simon wrote every word in those blogs? Its a simple question.  You not replying is making it look like no you dont have proof. Another question is do you have his permission to write the things you do"



"I think it is important to note that Simon has asked Stephanie to take the website offline. (According to her own post)
Which makes you wonder why he would send these to be written if he wanted the website removing?"



"I am going to go to bed soon but I will be back tomorrow. The question will remain the same, where is the proof that Simon Hall wrote these blogs?
That seems to be a very difficult question to answer for his wife
Why it should be difficult one will never know.
You would assume when someone is bad mouthing his family it would be written down so it could not be denied or misinterpreted.
I would also imagine that someone who writes like this would have the guts to have it hand written so it could be scanned to show the family in private!
In fact, I would imagine if someone REALLY felt like this they would write directly to the people.
But these people appear to love him no matter what he does. And like all parents, they will forgive him.
The question is still the same though!!!
But it clear to me there is no proof!!"
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Re: A time to take stock....
« Reply #177 on: February 29, 2016, 08:53:PM »
It was because of things like the Zenith burglary discovery, the information contained within the blogs (written by SH) and the ferocious smear campaign that followed the publication of the blogs by a 'certain few'  and the behind the scene activities of same said 'certain few' that led to SH confessing.

Following his overdose in February 2013 he disclosed a large amount of information to both me and the prison authorities...

With hindsight there was no way to deny the validity of the confession. He had lived a lie for over a decade.
He disclosed he had used drugs since a very young age.. He disclosed all sorts of hideous things..
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« Reply #178 on: February 29, 2016, 11:50:PM »
"Standing by your husband is all well and good and to be admired.
Do you realise the damage these blogs are doing to his case? Yes people are reading them because it is like car crash TV.
I cannot believe what I am reading in relation to this case.
This has to STOP! your husband said in one of the blogs that if people want to talk about anyone talk about him and the case. This is not happening.
I am sorry but these blogs do not talk about the case. They make him look bad. If you love your husband like you say you do, then you should pull these blogs right off the net. 
Your husbands situation is that if this continues he will be sent back to a higher cat prison because of these blogs and their revelations.
What should be discussed is the evidence not all this nonsense."



"Seriously you think this is doing Simon justice? Gaining him support?"
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« Reply #179 on: March 01, 2016, 12:03:AM »
I'll post the blogs up shortly so that posters can be reminded of the content the above poster was so concerned about...

Maybe then said poster (or one of their minions) will explain to us all up why SH would have been "sent back to a higher cat prison because of these blogs and their revelations."
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