The 4/5 telephone calls made that night

[buddy]

Buddy,,why would Julie have told him to get back to bed if she thought he'd murdered his family.?

It is quite clear Lookout that Mugford lied from beginning to end. Maybe she told him to go back to bed so he had a better cover story, just saying.

[susan]

Caroline  Thanks for that I thought EP would be the cause of the confusion surely they should know if one or two calls were made

[susan]

Caroline am I correct in thinking two patrol cars were sent to the scene from different police stations could one have been in response to Ralph's call and the other to Jeremy's and hence the mix up over the logs.

[Jane]

EP stated that both logs refer to the 'same' call, the one called in by Jeremy. This is the dilemma! Was there two calls, one from Jeremy and one from Ralf, or just one from Jeremy written out twice?

Caroline, if there was only one call, how would it explain the use of the words "daughter" and "sister"?

[nugnug]

well he wouldent be saying my daughter to jeremy.

[susan]

april good point where did this information come from did it say sister in one log and daughter in another and yet EP are trying to say only one call took place.  Something very fishy going on here I feel.

[susan]

nugnug quite right he would say your sister.

[Caroline R]

Caroline, if there was only one call, how would it explain the use of the words "daughter" and "sister"?

Well, that's the point, it doesn't

[Caroline R]

Caroline am I correct in thinking two patrol cars were sent to the scene from different police stations could one have been in response to Ralph's call and the other to Jeremy's and hence the mix up over the logs.

Yes, two were sent but not sure if it was from the same station?

[susan]

Lookout Hello  Jeremy gave her a cheque for £400 towards her holiday she cashed the cheque then sold him down the river steve said it was a "pay off" she got a much bigger one than that in the end and laughed all the way to the bank whilst an innocent man was sent to prison.

[susan]

Caroline I have read they were sent from different stations but hey ho I have read so much that turns out to be incorrect.

[Caroline R]

Lookout Hello  Jeremy gave her a cheque for £400 towards her holiday she cashed the cheque then sold him down the river steve said it was a "pay off" she got a much bigger one than that in the end and laughed all the way to the bank whilst an innocent man was sent to prison.

£400.00 was a pay-off - man!! she works cheap!! She obviously learned her lesson and later went for the big bucks!!

[susan]

Caroline that was just to tide her over till she received the big bucks.  She did not work cheap.

[lookout]

It is quite clear Lookout that Mugford lied from beginning to end. Maybe she told him to go back to bed so he had a better cover story, just saying.

Buddy,then why aren't you pushing for an accessory to murder if you believe that Jeremy did it.?

[Alias]

well he had to way up the best course of action if he went there it could be a big mistake and make things worse if he phoned it could also make things worse.

he was unable to make a decision so he phoned someone else hoping they would have the answer.

I think you are spot-on with this. "Something is wrong at the farm." He doesn´t know what, he doesn´t know how bad it is, he is very much in doubt what his father wants from him, so he calls Julie for some advise. She obviously does not take it seriously (in her impaired and sleepy condition) and tells him to go back to bed; but Jeremy has heard his father´s voice and makes the decicion to call the police whether Ralph wants it or not. In a sense he makes a compromise by not calling 999, but the local police - it doesn´t seem as serious that way and Ralph will be less upset if some local coppers show up.

It all makes sense if you see it this way - and paints Jeremy as a rather insecure lad when it comes to decicion-making.