Book Reviews - Murders/Suicide at WHF

[Steve_uk]

But steve, if it was Sheila, what would she have to work out.  Sheila didn't know anything about a plan to get her Dad in the kitchen and Mike reckons June was shot first which if it were true may just be coincidental if the panic buttonwas in the cabinet.  Don't really find your argument convincing.

It was Jeremy's plan which he thought foolproof,but the weakness which he couldn't see was that he needed a pretext to get to the Farm to prevent early entry in case Sheila hadn't died with just the one bullet. The weakness necessitated a telephone call from Nevill in the kitchen so he had to be placed there and not killed in the bedroom without venturing out from its confines.

[killingeve]

Further excerpt from author Claire Powell - Murder At White House Farm

Sheila's reunion with her birth mother:

As divorce proceedings began, Sheila pondered on her apparent inability to sustain the love of those close to her.  She wondered whether first her mother and then her husband had sensed an innate evil in her.  Or was it simply that neither her adoptive mother nor her soon-to-be ex-husband had the requisite understanding to form a real affinity with her?  After several months, Sheila believed she had found the answer.  She was convinced that the only person who could understand her was her real mother, and she began the search to find her.

By the time the divorce was finalised, Sheila had managed to achieve her objective.  After more than a year she had eventually traced her natural mother to Canada and contacted her with the help of British and Canadian social services.  The two women arranged to meet at Heathrow Airport – their first sight of each other since Sheila had been an eight-week-old baby.  According to one of the social workers involved, this initial meeting was full of tension and very stressful.  Sheila, however, was delighted.  There was a further meeting and Sheila confided to a girlfriend that her long-lost mother was all she had hoped for,

‘You know it was marvellous,’ Sheila told her friend Sonja.  ‘My mother was just like me.  I mean she was very affectionate and she liked me straight away.  I knew immediately she was my real mother and I felt much more at home with her than with my other mother.  We were crying and hugging and I’m going to see a lot of her, I’m going to make sure I see her regularly.  She lives in Canada, but now I’ve found her I’m going to make sure that we keep together.  Now I’ve found her I want to see her’.

‘She told me that her mother had been a student when she got pregnant,’ Sonja remembered.  ‘She couldn’t manage to keep on studying and bring up a baby and had been forced to have her adopted.  I think her father was a student as well.  Sheila was delighted they had met up and that her mother was so pleased to see her,’ said Sonja.

The joyful effects of the reunion did not last very long, however.  Soon Sheila’s natural mother returned to Canada and those close to Sheila realised with concern that her behaviour was becoming increasingly erratic

Right off for the daily run now.  How else is a nun, albeit a naughty one, to dispel excess energy?    At least being active on the forum, especially all this typing, lessens the chance of impure thoughts creeping in    Seriously I think I may have said it before but I can't help thinking that at the root of the case lies religion especially in connection with chastity and sexual morality. 

[Jane]

Of course,because it was a warm Essex Summer's night. Schizophrenics in a state of psychosis don't get all 25 bullets to hit target,and according to Mike June was attacked first which makes sense if the panic button is located in the bedside cabinet. Nevill by necessity couldn't be pelleted with bullets in the bedroom because it was necessary through Jeremy's wicked plan to have made a call in the kitchen.

No mentally ill person could have seriously thought this out if by any chance the Haloperidol medication had worn off,which in any case it hadn't.

If it was so imperative to get Nevill into the kitchen, how does it explain his blood being found on the stair way. That would suggest that he was trying to be prevented from reaching the kitchen.

[Steve_uk]

No the route cause of these crimes is the greed which was fostered and sustained albeit unwittingly by Margaret Thatcher and her era of government which left the haves and the have nots clique. Jeremy jumped on the bandwagon and determined that he would be in the former group.

[killingeve]

Her biological mother had exceeded all expectations when they met at Heathrow Airport and they were going to stay in touch. Dr. Hugh Ferguson wrote that Sheila would not have committed suicide as she had too much to live for. June was trying her hardest that last year to make amends for previous disagreements,which were exaggerated anyway as reported by Ann Eaton in her statement. Nevill was there on the other end of a telephone line,along with his and his wife's money to come to Sheila in due course.

Jeremy had worked all this out with his remark to Doris Foakes that he "wasn't sharing any of my money with Sheila". I suggest that you all look a little further in that direction and you will find the pieces do begin to slot in together.

Hello Steve_uk

Yes and wasn't Doris Foakes, or a family member, given notice to leave Bourtree Cottage by the Bambers so that they could install JB?  Also I believe a member of the Foakes family was made redundant from WHF when JB committed himself to working full-time on the farm?  I guess Doris Foakes may have been a little aggrieved?

[Jane]

Her biological mother had exceeded all expectations when they met at Heathrow Airport and they were going to stay in touch. Dr. Hugh Ferguson wrote that Sheila would not have committed suicide as she had too much to live for. June was trying her hardest that last year to make amends for previous disagreements,which were exaggerated anyway as reported by Ann Eaton in her statement. Nevill was there on the other end of a telephone line,along with his and his wife's money to come to Sheila in due course.

Jeremy had worked all this out with his remark to Doris Foakes that he "wasn't sharing any of my money with Sheila". I suggest that you all look a little further in that direction and you will find the pieces do begin to slot in together.

So how does it explain that when Colin phoned her, she told him that her other children didn't know about Sheila so it seems highly unlikely that a close bond would exist between them. Also Dr Ferguson based what he said on the last time he had seen Sheila which was approximately 12 earlier. Much had happened to her emotionally since then. He was also aware that she had left the clinic before she was fully recovered.

[Steve_uk]

If it was so imperative to get Nevill into the kitchen, how does it explain his blood being found on the stair way. That would suggest that he was trying to be prevented from reaching the kitchen.

We don't know the reason,but Nevill possibly turned round to confront his son as he moved from the hallway to the kitchen,and made it as far as the blue and white chequered worktop where his bloodstained fingerprints were to be found. But it's not credible that he reached the telephone that morning.

[killingeve]

No the route cause of these crimes is the greed which was fostered and sustained albeit unwittingly by Margaret Thatcher and her era of government which left the haves and the have nots clique. Jeremy jumped on the bandwagon and determined that he would be in the former group.

How do you know the motive was greed when there's as much evidence to support that it may have been caused by real or perceived rejections experienced by Sheila and/or multiple failures: June, school, Colin, hairdressing job, modelling, birth mother and potential loss of twins? 

[Jane]

No the route cause of these crimes is the greed which was fostered and sustained albeit unwittingly by Margaret Thatcher and her era of government which left the haves and the have nots clique. Jeremy jumped on the bandwagon and determined that he would be in the former group.

Jeremy didn't need a bandwagon to jump on, he'd grown up on it.

[Steve_uk]

How do you know the motive was greed when there's as much evidence to support that it may have been caused by real or perceived rejections experienced by Sheila and/or multiple failures: June, school, Colin, hairdressing job, modelling, birth mother and potential loss of twins? 

Colin knew that the rumour spread by Jeremy that first morning at Goldhanger was a complete pack of lies,along with the rest of his story. Grandparents had no rights in law whatsoever at that time and I'm surprised that many of you are swallowing Jeremy's tissue of lies hook,line and sinker,entertaining as the stories of Sheila desirous of emigrating to Canada with the twins are..

[Jane]

We don't know the reason,but Nevill possibly turned round to confront his son as he moved from the hallway to the kitchen,and made it as far as the blue and white chequered worktop where his bloodstained fingerprints were to be found. But it's not credible that he reached the telephone that morning.

It still doesn't explain why, if it was so imperative to get Nevill to the kitchen, he wasn't encouraged down the stairs into the kitchen unharmed.

[Jane]

Colin knew that the rumour spread by Jeremy that first morning at Goldhanger was a complete pack of lies,along with the rest of his story. Grandparents had no rights in law whatsoever at that time and I'm surprised that many of you are swallowing Jeremy's tissue of lies hook,line and sinker,entertaining as the stories of Sheila desirous of emigrating to Canada with the twins are..

Please can you point me in the direction of anywhere Jeremy has said that Sheila was desirous of moving her and the twins to Canada. As for grandparents having no rights in law at the time, you are correct, but imagine how you might feel as a grandparent if you had only just found out that ex in law, your grandchildrens main carer was about to remarry. Were there any guarantees that they would stay in the same area. Suppose they wanted to take the children to the other end of the country. I imagine that you, like they, would want to make cintingency plans.

[killingeve]

Colin knew that the rumour spread by Jeremy that first morning at Goldhanger was a complete pack of lies,along with the rest of his story. Grandparents had no rights in law whatsoever at that time and I'm surprised that many of you are swallowing Jeremy's tissue of lies hook,line and sinker,entertaining as the stories of Sheila desirous of emigrating to Canada with the twins are..

Never mind what the law states.  Such a conversation was undertaken by Colin's mother and June about foster care:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=970.0;attach=4911

It is possible that June was using this in an attempt to persuade Sheila to move back to Essex.  Please remember we are talking of what appears to have been a domineering and controlling June and a very vulnerable Sheila.  If June said "you might lose the twins to foster care"  can you really imagine Sheila being assertive and quoting her rights?  Dr F confirms that she was unlikely to remain passive about any threat, real or percieved, over the loss of the twins.

[maggie]

Her biological mother had exceeded all expectations when they met at Heathrow Airport and they were going to stay in touch. Dr. Hugh Ferguson wrote that Sheila would not have committed suicide as she had too much to live for. June was trying her hardest that last year to make amends for previous disagreements,which were exaggerated anyway as reported by Ann Eaton in her statement. Nevill was there on the other end of a telephone line,along with his and his wife's money to come to Sheila in due course.

Jeremy had worked all this out with his remark to Doris Foakes that he "wasn't sharing any of my money with Sheila". I suggest that you all look a little further in that direction and you will find the pieces do begin to slot in together.

Unfortunately, that meeting was the first flush but it would be very unusual if the relationship contined in that vein.  Sheila and her natural mother would have to get to know and understand each other.  It takes patience, total commitment and understanding.  You cannot just meet at an airport and everythings wonderfull forever, it doesn't work like that.imo

[killingeve]

Unfortunately, that meeting was the first flush but it would be very unusual if the relationship contined in that vein.  Sheila and her natural mother would have to get to know and understand each other.  It takes patience, total commitment and understanding.  You cannot just meet at an airport and everythings wonderfull forever, it doesn't work like that.imo

Dr Ferguson confirms Sheila's emotional immaturity and the way Colin and Claire Powell describe the reunions as told by Sheila to Colin and girlfriends really confirms this.  For someone like Sheila I feel this reunion was simply too much without proper support and counselling.