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« Reply #1335 on: July 20, 2012, 11:49:PM »
It has been a while since I read CC's book, but if memory serves right, he did not care if the fingers of the sculpture were not right, he felt the need to bring out his feelings...and this he did...it; is not a perfect sculpture by all means, but it reflects his own personal feelings... :) :) :)
his drawings are pure genious

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« Reply #1336 on: July 20, 2012, 11:52:PM »
his drawings are pure genious

Not seen many of his drawings...I am shattered Mertol...night to you and all...sleep well.  :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #1337 on: July 20, 2012, 11:54:PM »
Not seen many of his drawings...I am shattered Mertol...night to you and all...sleep well.  :) :) :) :)
sleep well patti pretend its not raining.

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« Reply #1338 on: July 20, 2012, 11:57:PM »
sleep well patti pretend its not raining.

tut...bloody rain is never ending....I shall sue the met office next Friday. They say we are in for a heat wave.....lolololololol What is a heat wave?  :) :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #1339 on: August 11, 2012, 01:29:AM »
I would like to post a few thoughts on Colin Caffell’s book “In Search of the Rainbow’s End” and looking at the title of this thread it’s as good a place to post as anywhere though I might easily have posted it in the “grief” category, as no matter how Colin tries to live up to his tough father’s expectation descendant from slaveholders I sense all too often this forceful emotion understandable as it may be, and one hopes that this has not clouded his judgement or expression. It’s an absorbing book, a page-turner which if not directly then certainly through a kind of subliminal osmosis lends an insight into Colin’s family life with Sheila and the twins, their murder, the part he played at the trial and his subsequent quest for solace.

For those of you searching for that one piece of evidence which would ultimately confirm Jeremy’s guilt you will look in vain. There is circumstantial evidence galore for those of my mindset: Sheila lying down near her mother and not in her twins’ bedroom, her former room as a girl which would have made more sense if she were escaping the world and taking her sons with her, Nevill’s alleged dossier of evidence against Jeremy which he had mentioned to Robert Boutflour, Barbara Wilson’s conversation with Nevill who remarked on Jeremy’s desire to own a 5 shot automatic handgun: “If he gets one of those we’ll all have to look out” and his remark about the shooting season coming up that accidents do happen, both of which to my mind put the remark about “I must never turn my back on that young man” into an indisputable unambiguous context. There’s his boasting to Colin about how many pages his witness statement runs into, his crude sexual jokes in the hearse on the way to the crematorium, and Jeremy attempting to get Sheila to load a gun at David Boutflour’s son’s christening.

We are told of Jeremy’s unhappy schooldays at Gresham’s, where he was relentlessly physically, psychologically and allegedly sexually bullied by the older and stronger boys, who despised him for being the son of a tenant farmer when they were descended from landed East Anglian gentry, Jeremy finding escape in turn in bullying the younger boys as he learned to play the system. In his target practice skills he would learn that handling a gun earned him a modicum of respect among his peer group. His initial honesty in owning up to the fact that he was adopted, possibly in an attempt to seek affection was rewarded in him labelled as “The Bastard” throughout his schooldays.Maybe it was because of this his Housemaster described him as “aloof” and “a loner”.

If Jeremy was having a hard time at school Sheila was not having it much easier. Forced to find friends at a private school in Eastbourne mid-way through the term she was confronted with a series of cliques among her classmates who ridiculed her for her unsophistication in dress and speech. After many pleadings it would be Nevill not June who finally succumbed a year later to moving her to Old Hall School in Norfolk, where she appeared more contented. Both Jeremy and Sheila would experience this double feeling of rejection, once at birth and again when their parents sent them away. Both children would suffer psychologically with Sheila developing schizophrenia partly through the religious moralizing of her mother(there was no evidence of congenital mental illness among her natural birth parents) and expressing emotional outbursts which became all too common, whilst Jeremy bottled it all up inside, the  explosive consequences of which became all too apparent.

The twins are the stars of this book and they shine out vividly: whether bringing a smile to one’s face with their common outburst of “it was p*ssing down” with rain said at the dinner table in front of what to them were frightening adult figures ,Colin’s recollection of his dropping them off for the last time at White House Farm with their clinging bodies sending an all too prescient message to their father, the family party which Jan in retrospect described as “their funeral”,Daniel’s series of sombre drawings which may have induced Colin’s surreal nightmarish dreams yet his insistence that the twins have gone to a better place and they will all be reunited one day in the future.

We continue on this rollercoaster journey with Colin with its chiaroscuro leitmotif as he discusses possibly at too great a length for some readers his life and alter-ego, or Shadow to use his words, as befits his anti-hero status in the book. One sympathises with Colin’s view that it is all too easy to kill in a rage,and his contrasting of this symbiotically with Jeremy’s planned executions. However we might not all feel the need to subject ourselves to expert psychoanalysis,or listen to Wagner’s Götterdämmerung in the process,( some of us might have more prosaic tastes),but then again how many of us will ever experience the shade of darkness on Colin’s level, however much we might all be searching for the crock of gold at Rainbow’s End.
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« Reply #1340 on: August 11, 2012, 09:18:AM »
Hi AJ

I think you will find Lomax's book a little out of date, but it is a worth while read. He tells it how it is and examines the evidence in each of his chapters. He begs good arguments from both sides, but is inclined to go with facts rather than chat about hearsay and who and what, if you know what I mean. 

I wish Scott would update the book...for there is a lot more that could be added...

I hope you get a signed copy like I did... :) :) :)
I found Scott Lomax both in his book and in his person to be fair minded and well balanced. He is a very honest man and is interested in the truth. I think this comes over in his book. I know some here will didagree with my assessment of him. But I have known him NOT  to be biased and if there are difficult questions he will either answer them or say he doesn't know.
I remember when this fraud came onto the forum professing to have the notebook of Taff Jones and had already made a deal with a newspaper. I contacted Scott and he informed me that this was completely untrue, because the police already had Taff Jones' notebook or had been among the itens destroyed by them.
In my humble opinion he is a well balanced and honest writer and is easy to read and uncomplicated.

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« Reply #1341 on: August 12, 2012, 01:57:PM »
I would like to post a few thoughts on Colin Caffell’s book “In Search of the Rainbow’s End” and looking at the title of this thread it’s as good a place to post as anywhere though I might easily have posted it in the “grief” category,as no matter how Colin tries to live up to his tough father’s expectation descendant from slaveholders I sense all too often this forceful emotion understandable as it may be,and one hopes that this has not clouded his judgement or expression. It’s an absorbing book,a page-turner which if not directly then certainly through a kind of subliminal osmosis lends an insight into Colin’s family life with Sheila and the twins,their murder,the part he played at the trial and his subsequent quest for solace.

For those of you searching for that one piece of evidence which would ultimately confirm Jeremy’s guilt you will look in vain. There is circumstantial evidence galore for those of my mindset: Sheila lying down near her mother and not in her twins’ bedroom,her former room as a girl which would have made more sense if she were escaping the world and taking her sons with her,Nevill’s alleged dossier of evidence against Jeremy which he had mentioned to Robert Boutflour,Barbara Wilson’s conversation with Nevill who remarked on Jeremy’s desire to own a 5 shot automatic handgun: “If he gets one of those we’ll all have to look out” and his remark about the shooting season coming up that accidents do happen, both of which to my mind put the remark about “I must never turn my back on that young man” into an indisputable unambiguous context. There’s his boasting to Colin about how many pages his witness statement runs into,his crude sexual jokes in the hearse on the way to the crematorium,and Jeremy attempting to get Sheila to load a gun at David Boutflour’s son’s christening.

We are told of Jeremy’s unhappy schooldays at Gresham’s,where he was relentlessly physically,psychologically and allegedly sexually bullied by the older and stronger boys,who despised him for being the son of a tenant farmer when they were descended from landed East Anglian gentry, Jeremy finding escape in turn in bullying the younger boys as he learned to play the system. In his target practice skills he would learn that handling a gun earned him a modicum of respect among his peer group. His initial honesty in owning up to the fact that he was adopted,possibly in an attempt to seek affection was rewarded in him labelled as “The Bastard” throughout his schooldays.Maybe it was because of this his Housemaster described him as “aloof” and “a loner”.

If Jeremy was having a hard time at school Sheila was not having it much easier. Forced to find friends at a private school in Eastbourne mid-way through the term she was confronted with a series of cliques among her classmates who ridiculed her for her unsophistication in dress and speech. After many pleadings it would be Nevill not June who finally succumbed a year later to moving her to Old Hall School in Norfolk,where she appeared more contented. Both Jeremy and Sheila would experience this double feeling of rejection,once at birth and again when their parents sent them away. Both children would suffer psychologically with Sheila developing schizophrenia partly through the religious moralizing of her mother(there was no evidence of congenital mental illness among her natural birth parents) and expressing emotional outbursts which became all too common, whilst Jeremy bottled it all up inside, the  explosive consequences of which  became all too apparent.

The twins are the stars of this book and they shine out vividly: whether bringing a smile to one’s face with their common outburst of “it was p*ssing down” with rain said at the dinner table in front of what to them were frightening adult figures ,Colin’s recollection of his dropping them off for the last time at White House Farm with their clinging bodies sending an all too prescient message to their father,the family party which Jan in retrospect described as “their funeral”,Daniel’s series of sombre drawings which may have induced Colin’s surreal nightmarish dreams yet his insistence that the twins have gone to a better place and they will all be reunited one day in the future.

We continue on this rollercoaster journey with Colin with its chiaroscuro leitmotif as Jeremy discusses possibly at too great a length for some readers his life and alter-ego,or Shadow to use his words, as befits his anti-hero status in the book. One sympathises with Colin’s view that it is all too easy to kill in a rage,and his contrasting of this symbiotically with Jeremy’s planned executions. However we might not all feel the need to subject ourselves to expert psychoanalysis,or listen to Wagner’s Götterdämmerung in the process,( some of us might have more prosaic tastes),but then again how many of us will ever experience the shade of darkness on Colin’s level,however much we might all be searching for the crock of gold at Rainbow’s End.

Hi Steve I have read Colin's book, but I haven't done a full study of it, then again do I need too?  My heart goes out to Colin and his family for their terrible loss.  I am sure Colin would agree with me when I say that he comes across with mixed feeling. For the first half of his book is written with great sadness, and, it made me tearful. One could never imagine his pain. Colin decided to write the book having started the book some years before, which becomes apparent when you read it.

I can't say nasty things about him, because it is not in my nature.  I get the feeling towards the end of the book that he had his own agenda to fulfil his way of coming to terms with what happened. Colin was biased towards the family, then he wasn't...He is so mixed up bless him, that he write to Jeremy for answers, but Jeremy can't deliver any....and it gets nasty. Form a readers point of view we are only reading one side of events and that is Colin's, he doesn't disclose the letters he wrote to Jeremy, does he.  So one can't analyse it all to it's full value.

Steve I must say that some of what you say I agree with. But, the 2nd paragraph is based on who said what, where and when. There is no justification of what you say in that said paragraph, it neither comprises of facts/forensic's or evidence that is documented to back up what you are saying...To be able to research a case like this in it's entirety you need to become none biased, for any reader will pick up an that and you will lose that readers faith....think about it... :) :) :) 

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« Reply #1342 on: August 12, 2012, 02:02:PM »
Hi Steve I have read Colin's book, but I haven't done a full study of it, then again do I need too?  My heart goes out to Colin and his family for their terrible loss.  I am sure Colin would agree with me when I say that he comes across with mixed feeling. For the first half of his book is written with great sadness, and, it made me tearful. One could never imagine his pain. Colin decided to write the book having started the book some years before, which becomes apparent when you read it.

I can't say nasty things about him, because it is not in my nature.  I get the feeling towards the end of the book that he had his own agenda to fulfil his way of coming to terms with what happened. Colin was biased towards the family, then he wasn't...He is so mixed up bless him, that he write to Jeremy for answers, but Jeremy can't deliver any....and it gets nasty. Form a readers point of view we are only reading one side of events and that is Colin's, he doesn't disclose the letters he wrote to Jeremy, does he.  So one can't analyse it all to it's full value.

Steve I must say that some of what you say I agree with. But, the 2nd paragraph is based on who said what, where and when. There is no justification of what you say in that said paragraph, it neither comprises of facts/forensic's or evidence that is documented to back up what you are saying...To be able to research a case like this in it's entirety you need to become none biased, for any reader will pick up an that and you will lose that readers faith....think about it... :) :) :)

Hi Patti,  you make an excellent point in your final paragraph.  Everyone would do well to adopt your stance.

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« Reply #1343 on: August 12, 2012, 02:04:PM »
I found Scott Lomax both in his book and in his person to be fair minded and well balanced. He is a very honest man and is interested in the truth. I think this comes over in his book. I know some here will didagree with my assessment of him. But I have known him NOT  to be biased and if there are difficult questions he will either answer them or say he doesn't know.
I remember when this fraud came onto the forum professing to have the notebook of Taff Jones and had already made a deal with a newspaper. I contacted Scott and he informed me that this was completely untrue, because the police already had Taff Jones' notebook or had been among the itens destroyed by them.
In my humble opinion he is a well balanced and honest writer and is easy to read and uncomplicated.

Hi Grahame I loved Scott's book. I think he is a cool dude. He also loves to research. His was indeed uncomplicated, which made it easy reading.  :) :) :)

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« Reply #1344 on: August 12, 2012, 02:08:PM »
Hi Patti,  you make an excellent point in your final paragraph.  Everyone would do well to adopt your stance.

Hey Neil, thank you me duck! Now is that a Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire/Leicestershire/Lincolnshire saying? I have no idea, but I would say it was a Notts term...Hope you are OK.  :) :) :)

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« Reply #1345 on: August 12, 2012, 02:12:PM »
 as patti has said the full letters with jeremy were not printed, the book was also written 10 years or so after the murders, today , colins book is heading for 30 years old now its important to remember the timelines, his thoughts today may be quite different in parts, im considering buying Blood Relations.
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« Reply #1346 on: August 12, 2012, 02:14:PM »
Hi Steve I have read Colin's book, but I haven't done a full study of it, then again do I need too?  My heart goes out to Colin and his family for their terrible loss.  I am sure Colin would agree with me when I say that he comes across with mixed feeling. For the first half of his book is written with great sadness, and, it made me tearful. One could never imagine his pain. Colin decided to write the book having started the book some years before, which becomes apparent when you read it.

I can't say nasty things about him, because it is not in my nature.  I get the feeling towards the end of the book that he had his own agenda to fulfil his way of coming to terms with what happened. Colin was biased towards the family, then he wasn't...He is so mixed up bless him, that he write to Jeremy for answers, but Jeremy can't deliver any....and it gets nasty. Form a readers point of view we are only reading one side of events and that is Colin's, he doesn't disclose the letters he wrote to Jeremy, does he.  So one can't analyse it all to it's full value.

Steve I must say that some of what you say I agree with. But, the 2nd paragraph is based on who said what, where and when. There is no justification of what you say in that said paragraph, it neither comprises of facts/forensic's or evidence that is documented to back up what you are saying...To be able to research a case like this in it's entirety you need to become none biased, for any reader will pick up an that and you will lose that readers faith....think about it... :) :) :)

Hi Patti,from re-reading the second paragraph I can't really see what you are objecting to. We're getting back to this scenario where everyone is lying but Jeremy and I have to put it to you and the Jeremy supporters that maybe the six or seven people who claim to throw Jeremy in a bad light are telling the truth.

I see this case like Colin as a jigsaw puzzle and as I read Colin's book more of the pieces seemed to slot into place. Mike is continuously reiterating his order of photographs and which negatives were snipped and so on that it is hard to follow his thread;I would just like to mention the photographs which Colin requested from Jeremy at the London flat,and it was interesting to see that the only photographs Jeremy had kept of his sister(and there must have been many since she was a model) were the nude photographs and the ones with her on the grouse shoot several years earlier,in other words the only photographs he had kept of his dead sister were those which Jeremy could possibly use to his advantage at a further date in order to discredit her. This at a time when Jeremy was still a free man.

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« Reply #1347 on: August 12, 2012, 02:25:PM »
Hi Patti,from re-reading the second paragraph I can't really see what you are objecting to. We're getting back to this scenario where everyone is lying but Jeremy and I have to put it to you and the Jeremy supporters that maybe the six or seven people who claim to throw Jeremy in a bad light are telling the truth.

I see this case like Colin as a jigsaw puzzle and as I read Colin's book more of the pieces seemed to slot into place. Mike is continuously reiterating his order of photographs and which negatives were snipped and so on that it is hard to follow his thread;I would just like to mention the photographs which Colin requested from Jeremy at the London flat,and it was interesting to see that the only photographs Jeremy had kept of his sister(and there must have been many since she was a model) were the nude photographs and the ones with her on the grouse shoot several years earlier,in other words the only photographs he had kept of his dead sister were those which Jeremy could possibly use to his advantage at a further date in order to discredit her. This at a time when Jeremy was still a free man.

Hi Steve, It does not matter to me what Jeremy says. I look into it a bit deeper than that. I go with the evidence presented and sometimes I voice my own thoughts. But, I would not fool a reader by alleging a dossier exists and, that Sheila laying in the main bedroom as evidence that she was murdered and did not commit suicide. For the most of what you write in that paragraph is hearsay.  I am not saying that you should not write those things, that is your choice, but I like to read facts and those facts analysed  from both ends, before a conclusion is made by the reader. 

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« Reply #1348 on: August 12, 2012, 02:27:PM »
Patti  you are one special lady :) what have you done with poor Bridget today. ;)

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« Reply #1349 on: August 12, 2012, 02:34:PM »
as patti has said the full letters with jeremy were not printed, the book was also written 10 years or so after the murders, today , colins book is heading for 30 years old now its important to remember the timelines, his thoughts today may be quite different in parts, im considering buying Blood Relations.

Hi Mertol :) Are we refreshed? I would like that book too...but, financially I wont recover till the end of September :( Oh I do feel sorry for myself...Has anyone seen Lookout?  :) :) :) :)