Guardian re Boyce findings

[Caroline]

Perhaps you can give some insight into how Sheila's blood came to be in two silencers/moderators?

Well, they’re going to say it was RB’s but you’d be left with the problem of there being 2! Who is going to doctor 2 silencers? It doesn’t make any sense.

[lookout]

Well, they’re going to say it was RB’s but you’d be left with the problem of there being 2! Who is going to doctor 2 silencers? It doesn’t make any sense.

Who's talking about doctoring ?

[Jane]

Who's talking about doctoring ?

So perhaps you can shed some light on how you think Sheila's blood was found in two silencers/moderators?

[Roch]

So perhaps you can shed some light on how you think Sheila's blood was found in two silencers/moderators?

Well if there is blood specifically from Sheila inside two different sound moderators, the only light I can shed is that it is highly unlikely the blood got there from her being killed by Jeremy Bamber, for two reasons.

[Steve_uk]

These are all allegations. I seem to recall Andrew Hunter discussing this subject. The incriminating silencer was given three different labels over its life history. There was a reference to a police motor cycle outrider handing back two silencers to the relatives pot-conviction. Another reference claimed a police officer was using one silencer as a paperweight in the office before it was sent to the laboratory for testing.

[Jane]

Well if there is blood specifically from Sheila inside two different sound moderators, the only light I can shed is that it is highly unlikely the blood got there from her being killed by Jeremy Bamber, for two reasons.

I don't think it's enough to imply she was killed by a.n.other, and it's asking rather too much to ask anyone to believe that she committed suicide using two silencers/moderators. However, it doesn't suspend belief to take on board that IF Jeremy had used a silencer/moderator, and pressed it against her flesh, that her blood might be in it......................but that only accounts for one.

[lookout]

Well if there'd been an elongated deep gash down the side of one silencer it's pretty obvious that if any attempt was made to fit it to the rifle it would be rendered unsuitable so another in its place would have been attempted-------hence the blood on them, though not necessarily all from the same person, in other words contaminated as we've heard mixtures of blood was in one of them .

[Roch]

I don't think it's enough to imply she was killed by a.n.other, and it's asking rather too much to ask anyone to believe that she committed suicide using two silencers/moderators. However, it doesn't suspend belief to take on board that IF Jeremy had used a silencer/moderator, and pressed it against her flesh, that her blood might be in it......................but that only accounts for one.

If it were really true that blood specifically from Sheila was in two separate sound moderators, both of which were in police custody, then that could only point towards skullduggery on the part of police or associated others. Jeremy Bamber can't have swapped silencers in between shots. Not only is this not the prosecution case; it is also not consistent with the nature of both wounds (I think).

[Kaldin]

I remember there was some kind of report which indicated that David Boutflour actually found the silencer in September, but I put that down to a typo. I'll see if I can find it.

[Jane]

If it were really true that blood specifically from Sheila was in two separate sound moderators, both of which were in police custody, then that could only point towards skullduggery on the part of police or associated others. Jeremy Bamber can't have swapped silencers in between shots. Not only is this not the prosecution case; it is also not consistent with the nature of both wounds (I think).

So can you expand on that. For instance unless it was decided, at ground level, when there was plenty of Sheila's blood available, to frame Jeremy -that would have been on the day they went in?- where did they get the blood from?

[Kaldin]

[Kaldin]

Oakey made a statement that he had been to Ann Eaton's house in September to pick up certain articles, but these did not include a silencer.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,625.msg14058.html#msg14058

[lookout]

BTW it was Boyce himself who'd said that it was Sheila's blood on both silencers--------or RWB's.

[Jane]

BTW it was Boyce himself who'd said that it was Sheila's blood on both silencers--------or RWB's.

Actually, he used the word "......could......" which is rather different from ".....did....."

[lookout]

Actually, he used the word "......could......" which is rather different from ".....did....."

He " Believes both silencers contain blood from either JB's sister or RWB ".