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OFF TOPIC => General => Topic started by: Adam on August 27, 2016, 09:16:AM

Title: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: Adam on August 27, 2016, 09:16:AM
A psychiatrist's opinion of ones mental state does not take precedence over physical and forensic evidence. You take the word a doctor that does not honour physician–patient confidentiality? I would be having reservations if I was you.

It was Mike that banned Scipio not me. As for the situation with Scipio now, he seems to have given up on arguing for JBs guilt. He has not signed in on red for a few months now and he does not reply to my e-mails either. He could be ill or something of that nature but I hope not.   :-\

https://youtu.be/mmCART1vcCo

Scipio must have changed his mind after watching Mike's video. But was too embarressed to admit it. So stopped posting on Red.
Title: Re: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: guest7363 on August 27, 2016, 09:45:AM
A psychiatrist's opinion of ones mental state does not take precedence over physical and forensic evidence. You take the word a doctor that does not honour physician–patient confidentiality? I would be having reservations if I was you.

It was Mike that banned Scipio not me. As for the situation with Scipio now, he seems to have given up on arguing for JBs guilt. He has not signed in on red for a few months now and he does not reply to my e-mails either. He could be ill or something of that nature but I hope not.   :-\
Scipio loved to pit his wits against Mike, it's not the same on the red forum for him, trust me he knows the roll you played in getting him removed Lemonhead/Scipio, you can deny it all you want, probably that's why he don't respond to your emails.
Title: Re: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: David1819 on August 27, 2016, 11:51:AM
Scipio loved to pit his wits against Mike, it's not the same on the red forum for him, trust me he knows the roll you played in getting him removed Lemonhead/Scipio, you can deny it all you want, probably that's why he don't respond to your emails.

Justice your theory that I went out my way to get rid of Lemonhead/Scipio makes no sense. Because from the time he was banned I went over to red to continue are debates. Don't believe it's all on red to see.

I continued challenging/arguing with him for many month after his ban. It simply makes no sense that I would go out my way to get rid of him only to continue to discuss the case with him on another forum.  :-\
Title: Re: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: guest7363 on August 27, 2016, 12:21:PM
Justice your theory that I went out my way to get rid of Lemonhead/Scipio makes no sense. Because from the time he was banned I went over to red to continue are debates. Don't believe it's all on red to see.

I continued challenging/arguing with him for many month after his ban. It simply makes no sense that I would go out my way to get rid of him only to continue to discuss the case with him on another forum.  :-\
I am a very reliable person, I had a PM (which I will not reveal) from Lemonhead in Dec 15, he was aware of what you was up to and it was quite obvious.
Title: Re: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: David1819 on August 27, 2016, 12:48:PM
I am a very reliable person, I had a PM (which I will not reveal) from Lemonhead in Dec 15, he was aware of what you was up to and it was quite obvious.

Problem is Justice. it was Lookout that first noticed it was Scipio not me.

Same old,eh,Scipio ? The accusing sticks out like a sore thumb.

I then passed this allegation onto mike. Who looked into lemonheads IP address and lo and behold it was from the east coast USA, Were Scipio happens to live  ::)

I rest my case  8)


Title: Re: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: guest7363 on August 27, 2016, 01:02:PM
Justice your theory that I went out my way to get rid of Lemonhead/Scipio makes no sense. Because from the time he was banned I went over to red to continue are debates. Don't believe it's all on red to see.

I continued challenging/arguing with him for many month after his ban. It simply makes no sense that I would go out my way to get rid of him only to continue to discuss the case with him on another forum.  :-\
So you did go out your way to get rid of Lemonhead/Scipio then?
Title: Re: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: guest7363 on August 27, 2016, 01:08:PM
Problem is Justice. it was Lookout that first noticed it was Scipio not me.

I then passed this allegation onto mike. Who looked into lemonheads IP address and lo and behold it was from the east coast USA, Were Scipio happens to live  ::)

I rest my case  8)
You have just proved you played a part, like I said and you kept pushing t.
Title: Re: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: Adam on August 27, 2016, 01:15:PM
Scipio joined in February 2014.

Lemonhead joined in July 2014.

Scipio's ban was not until late 2015.

I don't know why the same person would create two profiles if he has not been banned from the first one.

If the Ip address is in a similar location, that could be coincidence.

Lemonheads post were long, as was Scipio's. However Lemonheads posts were less aggressive.
Title: Re: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: David1819 on August 27, 2016, 01:36:PM
You have just proved you played a part, like I said and you kept pushing t.

Now your changing the nature of what you have accused me of. You were pushing the idea that i decided to frame Lemonhead as Scipio in order to remove him from the forum. When in reality All I did was pass Lookouts accusation to the Admin to make their own conclusions.
Title: Re: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: sami on August 27, 2016, 01:37:PM
david was it your job to pass the allegation on to mike.why not leave it to lookout she was the one who made it.if you are or were happy to debate with scipio n lemonhead why grass em up
Title: Re: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: Jane on August 27, 2016, 01:51:PM
Now your changing the nature of what you have accused me of. You were pushing the idea that i decided to frame Lemonhead as Scipio in order to remove him from the forum. When in reality All I did was pass Lookouts accusation to the Admin to make their own conclusions.


Not too hot on taking responsibility for your own actions, are you?
Title: Re: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: David1819 on August 27, 2016, 03:25:PM
Scipio joined in February 2014.

Lemonhead joined in July 2014.

Scipio's ban was not until late 2015.


I don't know why the same person would create two profiles if he has not been banned from the first one.

If the Ip address is in a similar location, that could be coincidence.

Lemonheads post were long, as was Scipio's. However Lemonheads posts were less aggressive.

This actually adds up. Scipio was banned before once in 2014 but had his account reactivated. I believe he created the Lemonhead account in order to access the archive and library documents while his original account was disabled.
Title: Re: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: Adam on August 27, 2016, 03:57:PM
That is a good point.

There was an immediate campaign to reinstate Scipio and he was quickly reinstated. So he would have had no need to to use a newly created 'Lemonhead' profile.

Scipio upon his return of course didn't thank anyone and continued abusing the forum owner.

When was Scipios first ban ? Did Lemonhead start posting after Scipios second ban ?
Title: Re: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: Adam on August 27, 2016, 04:13:PM
It seems that Lemonhead started posting around the same time Scipio got his second and permanent ban. Which was late 2015.

After Lemonhead got banned, Scipio attempted getting other posters to transfer his posts on Red to this forum. He sent me a PM once on Red asking me to do this. Which I didn't
 
Scipio then got threatened with a ban on Red for calling a moderator biased and wrong,  and hasn't been seen since.
Title: Re: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: David1819 on August 27, 2016, 04:30:PM
That is a good point.

There was an immediate campaign to reinstate Scipio and he was quickly reinstated. So he would have had no need to to use a newly created 'Lemonhead' profile.

Scipio upon his return of course didn't thank anyone and continued abusing the forum owner.

When was Scipios first ban ? Did Lemonhead start posting after Scipios second ban ?

I Believe he created the Lemonhead profile after his first ban so he could still visit the site and still see the evidence and document attachments. Once his second and permanent ban was issued he then decided to use his Lemonhead account.

I was informed in the past that Scipio and Lemonhead actually had the SAME IP address. I can only give my word on that unless that member reads this and decides to confirm it.

Scipio upon his return didn't thank anyone? He just continued to abuse people? Strange guy  :-\
Title: Re: Re: Why didn't Bamber put the silencer on prior to shooting rabbits ?
Post by: guest7363 on August 27, 2016, 05:43:PM
Now your changing the nature of what you have accused me of. You were pushing the idea that i decided to frame Lemonhead as Scipio in order to remove him from the forum. When in reality All I did was pass Lookouts accusation to the Admin to make their own conclusions.
My argument was, you don't like competition and you wanted Scipio/Lemonhead gone, you never left it alone and you grassed Lemonhead up, remember these posts?
What seems to be the state of things is that Scipio has resurfaced as Lemonhead 
Same linguistic patterns of writing and grammar as Scipio
2. IP Address has been tracked to the location Scipio lives
He has been banned for repeatedly dishing out abuse at people.
How on earth is it a low thing to do? I have warned members that a banned member is lurking as someone else and that is being deceptive . That fact he has created backup stealth accounts years ago in advance is rather disturb
I worked as networking technician for a few years. Its not difficult

Scipio posted information that consisted of his opinions and interpretations believing them to be undeniable fact and then insults people who don't accept his posts like biblical holiness and does not tolerate other peoples opin


And this is the help you give to people you like to debate with?
Title: Re: Re: Why didn't Bamber put the silencer on prior to shooting rabbits ?
Post by: maggie on August 27, 2016, 06:14:PM
Sami is correct, I have locked this thread and I shall move the subject of scopio/lemonhead to Off Topic. 

Just to clarify things, before David pointed out anything about Scipio/Lemonhead the mods/admin were aware of Scipio's return as Lemonhead eventhugh he had been banned for life

It is against forum policy for a banned person to open a new account in a different name and when discovered they will be banned without further argument.

Cheers
Title: Re: Re: Why didn't Bamber put the silencer on prior to shooting rabbits ?
Post by: guest7363 on August 27, 2016, 06:41:PM
Sami is correct, I have locked this thread and I shall move the subject of scopio/lemonhead to Off Topic. 

Just to clarify things, before David pointed out anything about Scipio/Lemonhead the mods/admin were aware of Scipio's return as Lemonhead eventhugh he had been banned for life

It is against forum policy for a banned person to open a new account in a different name and when discovered they will be banned without further argument.

Cheers
No one is disputing this Maggie and I understand the problems you face
Title: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: sami on August 27, 2016, 06:45:PM
imo anyone banned should be allowed back as long as he doesnt repeat the mistake which got him banned.and lemonhead was not abusive to anyone when returning.i mean its a forum,theres no money involved :)
Title: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: Jane on August 28, 2016, 09:07:AM
imo anyone banned should be allowed back as long as he doesnt repeat the mistake which got him banned.and lemonhead was not abusive to anyone when returning.i mean its a forum,theres no money involved :)


No Sami........................but egos are ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Scipio/Lemonhead
Post by: sami on August 28, 2016, 11:27:AM

No Sami........................but egos are ;) ;) ;)
very true jane  :)
Title: Re: Re: Why didn't Bamber put the silencer on prior to shooting rabbits ?
Post by: David1819 on August 28, 2016, 02:48:PM
My argument was, you don't like competition and you wanted Scipio/Lemonhead gone, you never left it alone and you grassed Lemonhead up

If that was the case Justice why did I then continue to debate Scipio over on red from the day he was banned?


I like competition, debating with Scipio has taught me allot about the case and the evidence in doing so. The only problem I had with him was the way he spoke to people. Put it this way no one seems to be missing him much.
Title: Re: Re: Why didn't Bamber put the silencer on prior to shooting rabbits ?
Post by: sami on August 28, 2016, 03:23:PM
If that was the case Justice why did I then continue to debate Scipio over on red from the day he was banned?


I like competition, debating with Scipio has taught me allot about the case and the evidence in doing so. The only problem I had with him was the way he spoke to people. Put it this way no one seems to be missing him much.
i disagree.we are missing his excellent knowledge on the case
Title: Re: Re: Why didn't Bamber put the silencer on prior to shooting rabbits ?
Post by: guest7363 on August 28, 2016, 08:42:PM
If that was the case Justice why did I then continue to debate Scipio over on red from the day he was banned?


I like competition, debating with Scipio has taught me allot about the case and the evidence in doing so. The only problem I had with him was the way he spoke to people. Put it this way no one seems to be missing him much.
The only problem I had with him was the way he spoke to people

And you seem to get away with it but made sure Scipio didn't
Title: Re: Re: Why didn't Bamber put the silencer on prior to shooting rabbits ?
Post by: David1819 on August 28, 2016, 08:59:PM
The only problem I had with him was the way he spoke to people

And you seem to get away with it but made sure Scipio didn't

I do have my faults in a similar way yes, but comparing my behaviour to scipios is like comparing a grenade to a nuclear bomb.

He was banned multiple times on this forum, been cautioned several times on the other forum. and people frequently complained about him openly on the forum. I have no such record