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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: Jackiepreece on January 06, 2012, 02:53:PM
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Keira
As the most important campaigner by far on this forum where do you feel the campaign is lacking and what would you personally do in the next few crucial weeks if you were in charge of the campaign
I think a lot of the people on this forum including me are very despondent at the moment
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Keira
As the most important campaigner by far on this forum where do you feel the campaign is lacking and what would you personally do in the next few crucial weeks if you were in charge of the campaign
I think a lot of the people on this forum including me are very despondent at the moment
Jackie, whilst you are waiting for a reply from Choc, may I ask you the same question? What do you personally think is missing from the campaign and what do you think should be done?
There should surely be a final push or something, instead it all seems quiet on the Western Front. :-\
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Hartley
Bambertweets keep announcing they have all the evidence they need to prove Jeremy is innocent. But then they contradict themselves later on appealing for more witnesses.
So I am not so sure
There has to be a media onslaught incase the CCRC are borderline on referring the case
I have numerous media contacts and I was in the middle of something really good but after yesterday I don't know if I can be bothered but I would be happy to pass them on to anyone else if they are interested
I think I must have spent a thousand hours on twitter and maybe it's time to hand over to someone who could do better
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Hartley
Bambertweets keep announcing they have all the evidence they need to prove Jeremy is innocent. But then they contradict themselves later on appealing for more witnesses.
So I am not so sure
There has to be a media onslaught incase the CCRC are borderline on referring the case
I have numerous media contacts and I was in the middle of something really good but after yesterday I don't know if I can be bothered but I would be happy to pass them on to anyone else if they are interested
I think I must have spent a thousand hours on twitter and maybe it's time to hand over to someone who could do better
Jackie, I take no pleasure, and I most certainly do not mean this in a goading manner, to yourself or to anybody else, but yes the sounds that are coming from the campaign team do not sound particularly confident.
You know that I think you are wrong about the case and the manner in which you express yourself leaves a lot to be desired (from my point of view, again no offence intended), however I cannot deny that your input and tenacity is above and beyond that which I've witnessed from other 'supporters'.
Personally I do not think there is anything which the campaign team, the official one or otherwise, can do to influence any decision to be made.
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Jackie, for the majority of us who follow this forum, your dedication and passion has been clearly evident.
There may have not been the best of cohesion between all the forums, tweets, facebook etc… however the critical mass of these various mediums has served in instil debate and questioning on both sides, and you need to be applauded for that.
Such debate and questioning can only be a good thing and I am sure it has served to introduce the spectre of doubt on both extreme sides of this case.
I agree with Hartley’s final comment, and that none of these unofficial channels have any measurable bearing on the final outcome.
As I have commented before, I just hope that the few people who carry the unenviable burden of responsibility in this case look at the soundness of the original judgement.
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Thank you for your kind words, Jackie, but I am not of any importance. I will give you my opinion, but as a mere campaigner, albeit a seasoned one who has fought a number of successful campaigns.
In a word, I believe the answer to what's lacking in Jeremy's campaign are unity and resolve.
Some years ago I tried to persuade the people of my community to oppose a small development which was so clearly just the first stage of future major development. At that time, when this plan was in its infancy, we could so easily have stopped the subsequent major development in its tracks. Yet few in my local community would accept the need to fight such an apparently small proposal. We were apathetic and we lacked unity.
You know the old saying, 'cometh the moment...? The time has to be right. I had tried to start a campaign at the wrong time. I wonder if now might be the wrong time for Jeremy's campaign too? That's hard to consider I know when Jeremy has been locked up for so many years. I do fear that he may have to wait a year or two longer.
Yet nothing is static for ever. Recent proposals for a much larger development have now changed everything here. My community has united as never before and we're fighting our socks off to stop this together. It took a great shock to wake us up here, I do hope I'm wrong and the same isn't true of Jeremy's campaign.
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Thank you for your kind words, Jackie, but I am not of any importance. I will give you my opinion, but as a mere campaigner, albeit a seasoned one who has fought a number of successful campaigns.
In a word, I believe the answer to what's lacking in Jeremy's campaign are unity and resolve.
Some years ago I tried to persuade the people of my community to oppose a small development which was so clearly just the first stage of future major development. At that time, when this plan was in its infancy, we could so easily have stopped the subsequent major development in its tracks. Yet few in my local community would accept the need to fight such an apparently small proposal. We were apathetic and we lacked unity.
You know the old saying, 'cometh the moment...? The time has to be right. I had tried to start a campaign at the wrong time. I wonder if now might be the wrong time for Jeremy's campaign too? That's hard to consider I know when Jeremy has been locked up for so many years. I do fear that he may have to wait a year or two longer.
Yet nothing is static for ever. Recent proposals for a much larger development have now changed everything here. My community has united as never before and we're fighting our socks off to stop this together. It took a great shock to wake us up here, I do hope I'm wrong and the same isn't true of Jeremy's campaign.
Choc good post. The expression "nip it in the bud" comes to mind. This case certainly was not !!
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For what it's worth.....if I could add my penneths worth.
This day and age, sadly, is led by celebrities. More magazines are sold depending upon who is on this weeks cover issue etc....need I say more - people continue to follow these celebs copying what they wear and wanting to be 'just like them'.
Getting a celeb on board would be a milestone. I tried Chris Martin among others. The celeb 'must be the right celeb'.....
Worked wonders for the Ghurkas of late.
Also, I still have the contact of the guy who was to print all the JB is Innocent t-shirts....to get the celeb to wear one would hopefully bring further attention to our cause and highlight the complete failings in our Judicial System. T-shirts are readily available for us all to buy if one wanted to push this forward. The prints have already been done.
Too late now for the demo.....too late for the song (or is it - if you get the correct celeb?).
Media will not cover this of their own accord before the decision, therefore, we have to make them cover it.....and if a celeb leads the way.....the papers will have to follow as they will not want to be left out.
From that, hopefully, would come interviews, prime time TV......
Our options are most limited now....but it's just a thought.
What do you think?
Be honest, if it's a non-starter please say so...... :D
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Try to get some FAMOUS people interested, get pictures of the young handsome Jeremy into the media, otherwise, very few people care. No one will care about Jeremy as he looks now. Fact.
Sad truth. But one or two famous people - keep bugging them - will do the difference.
We COULD all try that. Call celebs, relentlessly, until one or two understands that an innocent person needs help and will talk abou it in the media. Noone will listen to US!
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Try to get some FAMOUS people interested, get pictures of the young handsome Jeremy into the media, otherwise, very few people care. No one will care about Jeremy as he looks now. Fact.
Sad truth. But one or two famous people - keep bugging them - will do the difference.
We COULD all try that. Call celebs, relentlessly, until one or two understands that an innocent person needs help and will talk abou it in the media. Noone will listen to US!
That's exactly what I wrote in my post before yours Abs......but it needs to be the right celeb. Imagine if it was Kerry Katona......AGGGGH!!!
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Personally I do not think there is anything which the campaign team, the official one or otherwise, can do to influence any decision to be made.
I agree with Hartley’s final comment, and that none of these unofficial channels have any measurable bearing on the final outcome.
I do not agree with these views. I think two or three specific single issue campaigns could have had a bearing on the legal side. I would have centered such campaigns around key specific items of withheld / missing evidence. The aim would have been to punch large dints in to the armour of the prosecuting authorities, attracting attention to the case and causing embarrassment / pressure regarding concealment of evidence.
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I tried Russell Brand a while ago... one Essex boy to another.
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I tried Russell Brand a while ago... one Essex boy to another.
Did you get a reply?
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I tried Russell Brand a while ago... one Essex boy to another.
What a wise choice. It would certainly take his mind off Katy....... :D
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What a wise choice. It would certainly take his mind off Katy....... :D
Or the 5 in a bed memories.
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Or the 5 in a bed memories.
Oh dear! Perhaps he's not the best celeb to approach...
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They met through Scott Lomax?
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she is posting under the name MyNanny25 and she is an actress
@Bambertweets You are wasting your time #Bamber lied and told the media he heard gunfire in the house BUT NOT the police !
@Bambertweets Why did #Bamber find it necessary to wear white make-up to the young boys funerals to make him look palid ?
This is the person going against Jeremy
Grahame your information is wrong
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she is posting under the name MyNanny25 and she is an actress
@Bambertweets You are wasting your time #Bamber lied and told the media he heard gunfire in the house BUT NOT the police !
@Bambertweets Why did #Bamber find it necessary to wear white make-up to the young boys funerals to make him look palid ?
This is the person going against Jeremy
Grahame your information is wrong
Jackie, that information came from Jeremy himself. If it is wrong then he is lying to somebody.
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Grahame
One of the people sending the nasty messages is her friend
Jeremy protects her name she doesn't get the flack we do off the likes of lamberton
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By the way Scott Lomax is one of the most upright of men I know. If there are any errors in what I say he will tell you. Ask him about it. If he knows if it is true or false he will tell you. He's one of the good guys.
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Grahame
One of the people sending the nasty messages is her friend
Jeremy protects her name she doesn't get the flack we do off the likes of lamberton
She's married Jackie.
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Grahame
Read back through Dales posts
HM Essex I just wanted to make it clear why I not helping anymore I do want to be involved in the middle of a bunch of jealous women!!!
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Grahame
Read back through Dales posts
HM Essex I just wanted to make it clear why I not helping anymore I do want to be involved in the middle of a bunch of jealous women!!!
Exactly, I wasn't referring to you, Jackie. I meant them.
As I said, hopefully Simon Mackay is on the case!
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Kathy Ross thinks i tell tales, passing information to you and grahame, from the facebook pages.
I rarely look at the facebook pages, so i dont know where she gets her ideas from, some people!
Well I wish someone would tell me that you pass information to me. The only time you contact me is to ask why the forum is not working. As far as the bamber facebook page is concerned. Why would I go there for. There's no information on there that they can't get from here. lol ;D
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I have never partaken in any in fighting grahame, i have no interest in who does what to be honest.
So why kathy ross thinks that is beyond me, christ how old does she think iam? 10 ?
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Humphrey you deleted a post was there a reason why?
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Did you get a reply?
No reply and maybe it wasn't the wisest choice but I agree that a major celeb might be a good thing. Especially since any credibility Bob Wofflechops added has sadly been wiped out!
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Humphrey
You are the JB expert why would someone lie about having a girlfriend I dont get it at all, it wouldnt make any difference to me helping someone.
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I have never partaken in any in fighting grahame, i have no interest in who does what to be honest.
So why kathy ross thinks that is beyond me, christ how old does she think iam? 10 ?
Andrea whatever you do. Whether you admit to be a supporter of Jeremy or whether you are an anti Bamber there will always people who will be against you. If you don't do anything there are those who will still be against you. Perhaps you may now realise that it is not good enough just to say ignore these people and then criticise some of infighting when all they are doing is trying to protect your character and your freedom. You as far as I and the other admin staff are concerned need defending against these attacks, It is not Jackie or I who are creating this so called infighting as you call it. It is these trouble makers trying to cause trouble even if you are not involved. Believe it or not it is folk such as yourself who we are trying to protect.
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Humphrey
You are the JB expert why would someone lie about having a girlfriend I dont get it at all, it wouldnt make any difference to me helping someone.
Possibly because he is trying to keep her out of the public eye so that the flak comes to you instead? I don't know? Just a thought.
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Im not blaming any particular person grahame, i was just perplexed as to how kr come to such a conclusion.
Never mind, i have a massive sunday dinner to worry about, ooh i cant wait!
Rib of beef!!
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The wetsuit is available for testing, to counteract Bob's accusations - yet it has never been called.
witch begs the question why not.
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Weird question, but is JB told about individuals on this forum, or on any other social media?
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witch begs the question why not.
Because they don't seem interested in the truth may be the simplest explanation?
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Weird question, but is JB told about individuals on this forum, or on any other social media?
I would imagine he knows about the web sites connected to his case, as for knowing about certain individuals i would say yes, hes bound to ask whats been posted and by who? Maybe to get a general gist of opinion.... Maybe.
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dident george gallway once speak up about this case mind you i don't weather that's good or bad.
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Im not blaming any particular person grahame, i was just perplexed as to how kr come to such a conclusion.
Never mind, i have a massive sunday dinner to worry about, ooh i cant wait!
Rib of beef!!
Just read and digest what I have said because you also have now been attacked and hopefully now understand the lies that Jackie has been suffering and how it affects her just for being concerned about justice. And that it isn't her that is responsible for being attacked just because she is outspoken. Indeed it is one of the reasons that she is outspoken.
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I would imagine he knows about the web sites connected to his case, as for knowing about certain individuals i would say yes, hes bound to ask whats been posted and by who? Maybe to get a general gist of opinion.... Maybe.
Hmmm, in a strange way I'd almost like to write to him and ask direct questions, but I'm sure my family wouldn't approve. :-\
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I wasnt attacked as such grahame, kr just made a comment about me passing info to you and jack.
I see where youre coming from though, some people like to think they are the most important person in the campaign, craving attention i suppose. Too many of this type of person and thats where the arguments start.
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I would imagine he knows about the web sites connected to his case, as for knowing about certain individuals i would say yes, hes bound to ask whats been posted and by who? Maybe to get a general gist of opinion.... Maybe.
He knows certain things but he's not told everything that is said. In a letter he sent me just before Christmas he thanked my for moderating the forum. But also added that he doesn't bother too much about what goes on here. However, I have come to take some of the things Jeremy says with a pinch of salt. He can be economical with the truth sometimes. Probably because he wants to keep everyone onside?
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And im still looking forward to my sunday dinner!
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I wasnt attacked as such grahame, kr just made a comment about me passing info to you and jack.
I see where youre coming from though, some people like to think they are the most important person in the campaign, craving attention i suppose. Too many of this type of person and thats where the arguments start.
Thats because they wonder how I know what's going on. But they should look closer to home than look to you. Both you sand I know that you don't gossip about things that go on on facebook. Thought ought to be sufficient for them.
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He knows certain things but he's not told everything that is said. In a letter he sent me just before Christmas he thanked my for moderating the forum. But also added that he doesn't bother too much about what goes on here. However, I have come to take some of the things Jeremy says with a pinch of salt. He can be economical with the truth sometimes. Probably because he wants to keep everyone onside?
Personally I think he is completely isolated and living in a bubble. He has no experience of the modern world.
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Im not concerned grahame to be honest, i can hold my own.
Say what they like about me !
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Personally I think he is completely isolated and living in a bubble. He has no experience of the modern world.
I think you are partly right on that one. I can't imagine how anyone could survive being in prison for so long. He must be completely institutionalised and looks at the world as if through a crack in the fence. With a lot of contradictory things coming at him from different people it is a wonder that he still trusts anyone?
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As an example, Jeremy has never been on the internet, in fact we were still with amstrads, spectrums, commodore 64's and Amigas back in the mid to late 80s. Can you imagine trying to explain how things are now to somebody who has no practical knowledge.
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Personally I think he is completely isolated and living in a bubble. He has no experience of the modern world.
What do prisoners have access to?
I know that they dont have internet, what about newspapers? Are they censored to remove articles on paedophiles, incase one gets shipped to their prison?
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What do prisoners have access to?
I know that they dont have internet, what about newspapers? Are they censored to remove articles on paedophiles, incase one gets shipped to their prison?
I honestly don't know.
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Andrea jb has a telly in his cell
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I had a commodore 64, i heard they are worth a bit of money now.
I had an Atari XE too, memories.
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As an example, Jeremy has never been on the internet, in fact we were still with amstrads, spectrums, commodore 64's and Amigas back in the mid to late 80s. Can you imagine trying to explain how things are now to somebody who has no practical knowledge.
I remember someone a few years ago who was released from prison after many years. He wanted to go back inside because he couldn't cope with the outside world. If Jeremy did get out he would need constant supervision. There is practically no help available for ex prisoners.
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Andrea jb has a telly in his cell
Yes i know they have tv and radio, i thought lifers might have been allowed internet access, obviously not.
In some prisons the status of the prisoner will determine what they are allowed.
Like a prisoner on basic wont be allowed a telly.
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As a completely irrelevant story, but I did some charity work in Haiti, clearing rubble and constructing temporary shelters, people had pretty much nothing, we got a lot of attention, we played CDs whilst working and when a Michael Jackson number came on, the locsls went wild, they loved and adored him, like a god, the guy I was working with shouted out, 'you know he's dead don't you?'. They had no idea, no information had reached them, grown men who worshipped him as a god were in tears, it was a very strange experience.
Not that it has anything to do with the case, I'm just rambling again. :-[
Wow thats quite sad, were they cut off from the outside world because of ghe earthquake and what means of communicating they had destroyed?
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As a completely irrelevant story, but I did some charity work in Haiti, clearing rubble and constructing temporary shelters, people had pretty much nothing, we got a lot of attention, we played CDs whilst working and when a Michael Jackson number came on, the locsls went wild, they loved and adored him, like a god, the guy I was working with shouted out, 'you know he's dead don't you?'. They had no idea, no information had reached them, grown men who worshipped him as a god were in tears, it was a very strange experience.
Not that it has anything to do with the case, I'm just rambling again. :-[
But it is good to know something about your life outside this forum. It is like I said, we only have two dimensional images of one another and that we are completely different people that that which we knowingly and unknowingly portray ourselves on the forum. That was a very worthy work that you did Hartley. Respect. :)
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But it is good to know something about your life outside this forum. It is like U said, we only have two dimensional images of one another and that we are completely different people that that which we knowingly and unknowingly portray ourselves on the forum. That was a very worthy work that you did Hartley. Respect. :)
Nice one Hartley.
Nice one Grahame. ;)
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Hartley
Did you see dead bodies I couldn't do anything to do with bodies I find it really scary
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I dont want to sound awful but the smell must have been horrendous.
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Hartley
Where did you sleep?
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How many people were in a tent I can't imagine you roughing it?
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Well originally we were in Port-au-Prince and stayed with the American Red Cross, we were in a large complex, there must have been about 30 or so people in the tent, which was more akin to a marquee, two similar medical tents and several smaller ones were near us. We stayed there (we being two friends, my girlfriend, now wife, and I) for 27 days, clearing debris and delivering medical supplies. We then got put into several teams and travelled to nearby villages and worked our way further inland with the British Red Cross. Stayed out there for 5 months and 17 days and probably made not a single bit of difference.
You probably did make a difference. But the fact that you did it means that you and your wife are obviously caring people. Now surely that goes a long way to explaining what I said about forming opinions on someone through what we see revealed about them on a two dimensional forum?
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Hmmm, in a strange way I'd almost like to write to him and ask direct questions, but I'm sure my family wouldn't approve. :-\
If you wrote to him I believe he would reply and give you direct answers, even though you would no doubt make clear your own view on the case. On the other hand I can understand that your family would not approve of such contact.
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Well originally we were in Port-au-Prince and stayed with the American Red Cross, we were in a large complex, there must have been about 30 or so people in the tent, which was more akin to a marquee, two similar medical tents and several smaller ones were near us. We stayed there (we being two friends, my girlfriend, now wife, and I) for 27 days, clearing debris and delivering medical supplies. We then got put into several teams and travelled to nearby villages and worked our way further inland with the British Red Cross. Stayed out there for 5 months and 17 days and probably made not a single bit of difference.
I am sure you made a lot of difference. All credit to you.
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Personally I think he is completely isolated and living in a bubble. He has no experience of the modern world.
That is true but he is trying to keep up with as much of the outside world as he can. He likes to talk about life on the outside. He has a television rented from the prison, with terrestrial channels only. He has no internet access and telephone contact with a limited group of people. He can read newspapers and has access to books from the library. He reads extensively and maintains a keen interest in a number of subjects.
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Do you think he can help me with this poxy computer?
I will get him bail in the morning.
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If you wrote to him I believe he would reply and give you direct answers, even though you would no doubt make clear your own view on the case. On the other hand I can understand that your family would not approve of such contact.
Ex forum member Shonapugs aka Shona on the pro-boards forum has stated she did not receive replies to her letters.
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Do you think he can help me with this poxy computer?
I will get him bail in the morning.
I'll spring him tomorrow if you like. Should be quite easy if you could get me a few cannisters of cs gas. ::) .....in case any copper jobsworth is listening, it's a joke, right?
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Do you think he can help me with this poxy computer?
I will get him bail in the morning.
I am sure he will appreciate getting bail in the morning. ::)
His computer skills are good - he has some decent kit and software which he uses to analyse the evidence. Material is sent to him by his team on DVD.
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To be fair Dave she always insisted that JB was guilty as charged. I still have some affection for Pugs.
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I'll spring him tomorrow if you like. Should be quite easy if you could get me a few cannisters of cs gas. ::) .....in case any copper jobsworth is listening, it's a joke, right?
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Your'e as daft as a brush ;D
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Ex forum member Shonapugs aka Shona on the pro-boards forum has stated she did not receive replies to her letters.
I am surprised but if Shona says that I see no reason to doubt her. It would be interesting to know what Shona said or asked in her letters.
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I confessed a lot of things to Pugs, and she always held my council, so I will not criticise her in any way.
In fact I would enjoy her company again.
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I imagine she asked some difficult questions relating to prosecution claims alleging Sheila could not have carried out the killings and allegations about Jeremy's behaviour pre / post the tragedy. I'm only guessing but that would make sense to me, given her stance on the case.
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Pugs is/was convinced a third person was involved. In pm's we discussed various things concerning AP.
It seemed at the time strange that JB made Pargeter the manager of WHF, and later Pargeter became one of the enemy [so to speak].
Pargeter seemed to know too much, and I still think he has not been investigated properly.
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I am surprised but if Shona says that I see no reason to doubt her. It would be interesting to know what Shona said or asked in her letters.
Jeremy's letters are censored. That may be why he was unable to answer if it was specifically surrounding the case.
The vast majority of folk who write to him just write about everyday happenings....it's easy on the brain to reply to these.
Put yourself in his shoes. He reading through copious amounts of paperwork....labelling it, sorting it etc...his mind must be numb by the evening when he comes to reply to friends and supporters. Therefore, imagine if he then read Shona's...if, and that's a big IF, it asked questions and questions just about the case...and he sensed from her letter she thought him guilty....he most probably thought his precious time could be better spent replying to friends than to one who sees his conviction as sound.
Well, I think I would do just that if I were him. This is a very, very stressful time for him. He is under so much pressure. If you do not believe in his innocenec, he may not have the time at the moment to try and convince you otherwise, afterall, he has, supposedly, enough people out here supporting him already.
Rather than I judge Jeremy, it's easier for me if I try and put myself in his shoes....at all times.
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Good answer humph ;)
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Good answer humph ;)
Thanks. You're a true buddy - Buddy :D
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One day soon I might post a few of Jeremys letters showing his softer side and some of the things he wanted to do when he leaves prison. I think he was disappointed I said I would never visit him in prison.
I think people need to see another side of Jeremy and I can remember him being put out because I was always talking about Neil and I was always saying how wonderful Neil was
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One day soon I might post a few of Jeremys letters showing his softer side and some of the things he wanted to do when he leaves prison. I think he was disappointed I said I would never visit him in prison.
I think people need to see another side of Jeremy and I can remember him being put out because I was always talking about Neil and I was always saying how wonderful Neil was
Don't do it Jackie. I am sure you have the best of intentions, but his letters to you are personal, and not for public discussion.What he writes to you is for you alone. Please do not post them.
I understand the point you are trying to make, and fully realise that Jeremy has a soft side, but I think it would be wrong to post his personal letters to you.
You can tell us edited things, but please, please don't post his letters.
my kindest regards. Cliff/ Buddy
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Don't do it Jackie. I am sure you have the best of intentions, but his letters to you are personal, and not for public discussion.What he writes to you is for you alone. Please do not post them.
I understand the point you are trying to make, and fully realise that Jeremy has a soft side, but I think it would be wrong to post his personal letters to you.
You can tell us edited things, but please, please don't post his letters.
my kindest regards. Cliff/ Buddy
I concur.
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I concur.
So do I. He has enough to cope with as it is. Just be patient a bit longer.
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I have just the 1 reply from Jeremy short he did not know me from adam, yet in his reply i saw what i wanted to see, i really dont know how he composes himself after all this time if he is driven i can only say its driven for justice.His letter remains private with me hold on Jackie he deserves something.
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I concur.
Can't play conkers now Humph. Have to wear goggles and high viz jackets, not forgetting the hard hat of course. I don't know how I survived childhood. Just lucky I suppose.
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Can't play conkers now Humph. Have to wear goggles and high viz jackets, not forgetting the hard hat of course. I don't know how I survived childhood. Just lucky I suppose.
Those were the days Buddy......I'd have had mine soaking in vinegar the night before!!
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Those were the days Buddy......I'd have had mine soaking in vinegar the night before!!
I used to bake mine. I recall I had a ninety niner that was smashed by a cheese cutter and it was declared a hundreder. What a wonderful time Humph.. Kids don't even collect conkers now!
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I used to bake mine. I recall I had a ninety niner that was smashed by a cheese cutter and it was declared a hundreder. What a wonderful time Humph.. Kids don't even collect conkers now!
Not the case in this family. We have conker tree top of road and picked up around 50 over three days. Bl**dy conkers all over the house. In the end we roasted a few.....NICE!!
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Not the case in this family. We have conker tree top of road and picked up around 50 over three days. Bl**dy conkers all over the house. In the end we roasted a few.....NICE!!
Apparently if you leave conkers around the house it deters spiders. Don't know if this is true but if it is I will start exporting them to Australia where apparently you can't have a dump in peace. [dunny spiders]
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Apparently if you leave conkers around the house it deters spiders. Don't know if this is true but if it is I will start exporting them to Australia where apparently you can't have a dump in peace. [dunny spiders]
Do they not have conker trees there?
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I have been an ace detective tonight and solved a great puzzle
I ought to be solving the whitehouse murders
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Do they not have conker trees there?
Dunno Humph. got plenty of spiders so I suppose not.
Imagine the last place where you can be at one with the world and read the paper in peace, and some dirty great spider sinks it's fangs into your Jacksie. My daughter is out there at the moment, and I told her to stand on the seat, and crap from height, at least you have a chance to knock the buggers out. ;D
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I have been an ace detective tonight and solved a great puzzle
I ought to be solving the whitehouse murders
Come on Jackie. You are worse than Mike.
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Right i Am hitting the fart sack. yorkies having a trim in the morning. Another £50 up the spout
I love my boys, they bring me joy.
I am as soft as you know what, but was a conker champion.
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Right i Am hitting the fart sack. yorkies having a trim in the morning. Another £50 up the spout
I love my boys, they bring me joy.
I am as soft as you know what, but was a conker champion.
In your Dreams Buddy :D I'm the champion.
Night Y'all 8)
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Jeremy's letters are censored. That may be why he was unable to answer if it was specifically surrounding the case.
The vast majority of folk who write to him just write about everyday happenings....it's easy on the brain to reply to these.
Put yourself in his shoes. He reading through copious amounts of paperwork....labelling it, sorting it etc...his mind must be numb by the evening when he comes to reply to friends and supporters. Therefore, imagine if he then read Shona's...if, and that's a big IF, it asked questions and questions just about the case...and he sensed from her letter she thought him guilty....he most probably thought his precious time could be better spent replying to friends than to one who sees his conviction as sound.
Well, I think I would do just that if I were him. This is a very, very stressful time for him. He is under so much pressure. If you do not believe in his innocenec, he may not have the time at the moment to try and convince you otherwise, afterall, he has, supposedly, enough people out here supporting him already.
Rather than I judge Jeremy, it's easier for me if I try and put myself in his shoes....at all times.
How big is his cell? It must look like my office with all that paperwork lying around?
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I used to bake mine. I recall I had a ninety niner that was smashed by a cheese cutter and it was declared a hundreder. What a wonderful time Humph.. Kids don't even collect conkers now!
They do at our school and then chuck them at passing cars.