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JEREMY BAMBER CASE => Jeremy Bamber Case Discussion => Topic started by: JackieD on January 25, 2020, 11:13:PM
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Where
We want to see proof of one of these twisted letters
It it’s another false claim
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Where
We want to see proof of one of these twisted letters
It it’s another false claim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KsQYeGo1cE
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Another fake person shown up
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KsQYeGo1cE
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Where
We want to see proof of one of these twisted letters
It it’s another false claim
Hi Jackie,
I think you will be interested in this
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/analysis/bamber-murders-the-definitive-account-1-7368685
The most relevant passage is when CAL describes the " hundreds of twisted letters" that Bamber sent from prison;
"Carol Ann Lee is showing me a pile of letters from the pen friend with whom she has been in correspondence for the best part of three years.
Written in black inked capitals, for the most part they contain friendly bulletins filling her in on his latest news. Yet jostling for space in the neatly addressed envelopes are crime scene photographs, court papers and grisly forensic reports ... "
How twisted. Sending letters that, "for the most part contain friendly bulletins filling her in on his latest news". Must have been a really big, "pile of letters" containing hundreds of twisted ones with their, "friendly bulletins".
The Yorkshire Post journalist has also spelt PEN PAL FROM HELL incorrectly. Mistakenly referring to "pen friend" and "friendly bulletins"
Is it possible that CAL is full of shit?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KsQYeGo1cE
😂😂😂😂😂
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KsQYeGo1cE
Trolling this thread already?
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Where
We want to see proof of one of these twisted letters
It it’s another false claim
I suspect that Carol Lee didn't actually use the word "twisted".
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Hi Jackie,
I think you will be interested in this
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/analysis/bamber-murders-the-definitive-account-1-7368685
The most relevant passage is when CAL describes the " hundreds of twisted letters" that Bamber sent from prison;
"Carol Ann Lee is showing me a pile of letters from the pen friend with whom she has been in correspondence for the best part of three years.
Written in black inked capitals, for the most part they contain friendly bulletins filling her in on his latest news. Yet jostling for space in the neatly addressed envelopes are crime scene photographs, court papers and grisly forensic reports ... "
How twisted. Sending letters that, "for the most part contain friendly bulletins filling her in on his latest news". Must have been a really big, "pile of letters" containing hundreds of twisted ones with their, "friendly bulletins".
The Yorkshire Post journalist has also spelt PEN PAL FROM HELL incorrectly. Mistakenly referring to "pen friend" and "friendly bulletins"
Is it possible that CAL is full of shit?
It’s possible but I doubt it. However she does seem to lack in critical thinking skills. Making no secret of the fact she “feels” he is guilty.
For example -
She writes near the end of her book the the marks on Nevils back have never been completely explained despite writing about being told by Vanezis the obvious (and only) explanation for them earlier in the book.
She interviews someone who claims Sheila could hardly get off a sofa prior to the killings. Giving no thought to the major discrepancies in this account and most importantly, the absence of any appearance for the prosecution (like Fielder).
That’s just the tip of the iceberg. It’s all well and good going over material and researching the subject but what good is it if you can’t process the info you accumulate?
If you think it’s far-fetched that someone can thoroughly research a subject with an obvious conclusion yet arrive at the wrong conclusion. Look at David Irving, the dude goes through every German and Soviet archive on Hitler and the Third Reich. What did he discover? the Holocaust never happened 😂
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Trolling this thread already?
Thought you didn't like to jump in? The whole thread is trolling CAL - of course you wouldn't be able to work that one out would you? You carry on playing holier than thou - you're not fooling anyone.
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I suspect that Carol Lee didn't actually use the word "twisted".
BINGO! I could have told you that but it would have ended up with a whole host of post telling me that I was wrong. Finally, someone worked it out. I thought it would have been Gringo!
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Hi Jackie,
I think you will be interested in this
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/analysis/bamber-murders-the-definitive-account-1-7368685
The most relevant passage is when CAL describes the " hundreds of twisted letters" that Bamber sent from prison;
"Carol Ann Lee is showing me a pile of letters from the pen friend with whom she has been in correspondence for the best part of three years.
Written in black inked capitals, for the most part they contain friendly bulletins filling her in on his latest news. Yet jostling for space in the neatly addressed envelopes are crime scene photographs, court papers and grisly forensic reports ... "
How twisted. Sending letters that, "for the most part contain friendly bulletins filling her in on his latest news". Must have been a really big, "pile of letters" containing hundreds of twisted ones with their, "friendly bulletins".
The Yorkshire Post journalist has also spelt PEN PAL FROM HELL incorrectly. Mistakenly referring to "pen friend" and "friendly bulletins"
Is it possible that CAL is full of shit?
Bit slow on the uptake on this one Gringo! It's certainly NOT CAL who is full of shit
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It’s possible but I doubt it. However she does seem to lack in critical thinking skills. Making no secret of the fact she “feels” he is guilty.
For example -
She writes near the end of her book the the marks on Nevils back have never been completely explained despite writing about being told by Vanezis the obvious (and only) explanation for them earlier in the book.
She interviews someone who claims Sheila could hardly get off a sofa prior to the killings. Giving no thought to the major discrepancies in this account and most importantly, the absence of any appearance for the prosecution (like Fielder).
That’s just the tip of the iceberg. It’s all well and good going over material and researching the subject but what good is it if you can’t process the info you accumulate?
If you think it’s far-fetched that someone can thoroughly research a subject with an obvious conclusion yet arrive at the wrong conclusion. Look at David Irving, the dude goes through every German and Soviet archive on Hitler and the Third Reich. What did he discover? the Holocaust never happened 😂
Or someone like who, who one week knows the case inside and out, then the next - total novice - depending who you are talking to and what point your're tying to make.
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Thought you didn't like to jump in? The whole thread is trolling CAL - of course you wouldn't be able to work that one out would you? You carry on playing holier than thou - you're not fooling anyone.
I told Justice - I changed my mind about "jumping in" because you lot won't stop. Why does it matter to you what Jackie says about Carol Lee? It's not as if she's criticising you is it?
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I told Justice - I changed my mind about "jumping in" because you lot won't stop. Why does it matter to you what Jackie says about Carol Lee? It's not as if she's criticising you is it?
You are the ONE who comes over with (pseudo) moral code, were it genuine, you should realise that this is an excuse to vilify a woman who wrote a book that some don't like because it doesn't cry innocence. There is no other reason for this and other threads simply used to attack someone who isn't here to defend themselves - but you're just joining in like the rest!
And to use your words right back at you - what does it matter to you what I or others say in response to Jackie - I'm not criticising you? Could the difference be that Jackie is a supporter and I'm not? Before you cry 'tag team' - it's been tag team all the way against a person who isn't able to argue back!
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Hi Jackie,
I think you will be interested in this
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/analysis/bamber-murders-the-definitive-account-1-7368685
The most relevant passage is when CAL describes the " hundreds of twisted letters" that Bamber sent from prison;
"Carol Ann Lee is showing me a pile of letters from the pen friend with whom she has been in correspondence for the best part of three years.
Written in black inked capitals, for the most part they contain friendly bulletins filling her in on his latest news. Yet jostling for space in the neatly addressed envelopes are crime scene photographs, court papers and grisly forensic reports ... "
How twisted. Sending letters that, "for the most part contain friendly bulletins filling her in on his latest news". Must have been a really big, "pile of letters" containing hundreds of twisted ones with their, "friendly bulletins".
The Yorkshire Post journalist has also spelt PEN PAL FROM HELL incorrectly. Mistakenly referring to "pen friend" and "friendly bulletins"
Is it possible that CAL is full of shit?
Thanks Gringo
It’s all so obvious and a disgrace. A good bit of journalism would be to track down the police man or women who gave her the photo she is bragging about in news articles and get him or her the sack.
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BINGO! I could have told you that but it would have ended up with a whole host of post telling me that I was wrong. Finally, someone worked it out. I thought it would have been Gringo!
They aren’t clever enough Caroline, the same way as NGB pointed out that the POLICE would not have stopped correspondence between Bamber and CAL, it’s just the same as Jackie stopped correspondence with Bamber when she got pushed out the loop.
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I suspect that Carol Lee didn't actually use the word "twisted".
Has she denied though ?
I can’t find that denial anywhere
I am going to take this up with the makers of the drama
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You are the ONE who comes over with (pseudo) moral code, were it genuine, you should realise that this is an excuse to vilify a woman who wrote a book that some don't like because it doesn't cry innocence. There is no other reason for this and other threads simply used to attack someone who isn't here to defend themselves - but you're just joining in like the rest!
And to use your words right back at you - what does it matter to you what I or others say in response to Jackie - I'm not criticising you? Could the difference be that Jackie is a supporter and I'm not? Before you cry 'tag team' - it's been tag team all the way against a person who isn't able to argue back!
Authors who write books should accept that they'll get some criticism, especially those who talk to the press. Now there's an article in The Sun where it's claimed that Carol Lee called Jeremy's letters "twisted". As I said, I suspect she didn't use that word, but it's been attributed to her in that article. It seems that she had an interview with The Sun, and if she's going to stick your neck out like that, she should expect some disagreement and criticism.
I was advised by Justice to look out for who starts this nonsense, and I have to say that in this thread it's you who started it.
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Thought you didn't like to jump in? The whole thread is trolling CAL - of course you wouldn't be able to work that one out would you? You carry on playing holier than thou - you're not fooling anyone.
Trolling started with your post at 11pm last night
You are a disgrace and refuse to debate in a normal way
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Has she denied though ?
I can’t find that denial anywhere
I am going to take this up with the makers of the drama
I haven't seen her deny it, and if they're misquoting her, perhaps she should address that.
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I haven't seen her deny it, and if they're misquoting her, perhaps she should address that.
Maybe she has 👍
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BINGO! I could have told you that but it would have ended up with a whole host of post telling me that I was wrong. Finally, someone worked it out. I thought it would have been Gringo!
Where’s her denial???
She’s happy for the press to run with the story
Well I am going to ask her myself and let’s see if she Denys it
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Maybe she has 👍
Maybe, in which case we should see a retraction by The Sun.
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You are the ONE who comes over with (pseudo) moral code, were it genuine, you should realise that this is an excuse to vilify a woman who wrote a book that some don't like because it doesn't cry innocence. There is no other reason for this and other threads simply used to attack someone who isn't here to defend themselves - but you're just joining in like the rest!
And to use your words right back at you - what does it matter to you what I or others say in response to Jackie - I'm not criticising you? Could the difference be that Jackie is a supporter and I'm not? Before you cry 'tag team' - it's been tag team all the way against a person who isn't able to argue back!
Got up the wrong side of the bed this morning have we?
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They aren’t clever enough Caroline, the same way as NGB pointed out that the POLICE would not have stopped correspondence between Bamber and CAL, it’s just the same as Jackie stopped correspondence with Bamber when she got pushed out the loop.
Get a life RJ we are on another topic right now, a very important topic
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Maybe, in which case we should see a retraction by The Sun.
What to satisfy you 😂😂😂😂😂. Oh let’s do a full editorial page “we apologise for calling Bamber twisted, instead we think he’s a deranged psychopathic child killer”.
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BINGO! I could have told you that but it would have ended up with a whole host of post telling me that I was wrong. Finally, someone worked it out. I thought it would have been Gringo!
Of course I can work things out for myself. I can also disagree with Jackie without insulting her or baiting her.
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Thanks Gringo
It’s all so obvious and a disgrace. A good bit of journalism would be to track down the police man or women who gave her the photo she is bragging about in news articles and get him or her the sack.
Why don't you do just that Jackie and make a complete arse of your self (again). Your problem is, you can't grasp plain English. The police gave her access to the CS photographs and case files for her research as an author. Not some rouge cop who had them hidden up his jumper! ::) ::) ::) ::)
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What to satisfy you 😂😂😂😂😂. Oh let’s do a full editorial page “we apologise for calling Bamber twisted, instead we think he’s a deranged psychopathic child killer”.
It's the letters they said were "twisted". Protesting one's innocence isn't twisted. There's no indication that he's done anything else in those letters.
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Has she denied though ?
I can’t find that denial anywhere
I am going to take this up with the makers of the drama
What's it got to do with them? ;D ;D ;D
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Authors who write books should accept that they'll get some criticism, especially those who talk to the press. Now there's an article in The Sun where it's claimed that Carol Lee called Jeremy's letters "twisted". As I said, I suspect she didn't use that word, but it's been attributed to her in that article. It seems that she had an interview with The Sun, and if she's going to stick your neck out like that, she should expect some disagreement and criticism.
I was advised by Justice to look out for who starts this nonsense, and I have to say that in this thread it's you who started it.
Thank you Kaldin the trolling started at 11pm last night and was jeered on by RJ
I will be waiting for CALS denial or take it as fact just like she chooses to do with Jeremy not answering her questions
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Get a life RJ we are on another topic right now, a very important topic
She or the Sun got it bang on when they called him twisted, great piece of journalism 👍
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Maybe she has 👍
Where?
Your suggesting she has
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Maybe, in which case we should see a retraction by The Sun.
Exactly
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Authors who write books should accept that they'll get some criticism, especially those who talk to the press. Now there's an article in The Sun where it's claimed that Carol Lee called Jeremy's letters "twisted". As I said, I suspect she didn't use that word, but it's been attributed to her in that article. It seems that she had an interview with The Sun, and if she's going to stick your neck out like that, she should expect some disagreement and criticism.
I was advised by Justice to look out for who starts this nonsense, and I have to say that in this thread it's you who started it.
Ha. ha! of course you have noticed it this time - of course you have excused it in the past when when it;s been Jackie 99% of the time. Keep defending her, it makes you just as bad.
As far as expecting criticism, you lot go beyond the pale - this isn't criticism, it's trolling!
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What to satisfy you 😂😂😂😂😂. Oh let’s do a full editorial page “we apologise for calling Bamber twisted, instead we think he’s a deranged psychopathic child killer”.
You know she’s in deep water if she fails to deny it but cannot show what she is boasting about
She could also get a policeman or policewomen the sack because of her boasting
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Trolling started with your post at 11pm last night
You are a disgrace and refuse to debate in a normal way
Get over yourself - thread that YOU STARTED is an excuse to troll. It's all you're capable of doing!
Where is your debate? You just hurl accusations at people! You don't know how to debate!
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Got up the wrong side of the bed this morning have we?
No, the right side - i just don't suffer fools - at ANY time of the day!
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Why don't you do just that Jackie and make a complete arse of your self (again). Your problem is, you can't grasp plain English. The police gave her access to the CS photographs and case files for her research as an author. Not some rouge cop who had them hidden up his jumper! ::) ::) ::) ::)
Well let’s see what I can find out?
So I can start writing a book and the police will give me access to ALL crime seen photos
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She or the Sun got it bang on when they called him twisted, great piece of journalism 👍
Neither of them called him twisted. The Sun claimed the letters were twisted, and they attributed that remark to Carol Lee.
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Get a life RJ we are on another topic right now, a very important topic
It's a crap topic - has to be - you started it. Invested to have a dig at someone, because that's the sum total of your contribution here!
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What's it got to do with them? ;D ;D ;D
Meticulous research ????
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What to satisfy you 😂😂😂😂😂. Oh let’s do a full editorial page “we apologise for calling Bamber twisted, instead we think he’s a deranged psychopathic child killer”.
;D ;D ;D
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Ha. ha! of course you have noticed it this time - of course you have excused it in the past when when it;s been Jackie 99% of the time. Keep defending her, it makes you just as bad.
As far as expecting criticism, you lot go beyond the pale - this isn't criticism, it's trolling!
Take it up with Justice - he's the one who advised me to see who starts it.
You're the one who's trolling.
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Neither of them called him twisted. The Sun claimed the letters were twisted, and they attributed that remark to Carol Lee.
Thank you Kaldin spot on
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You know she’s in deep water if she fails to deny it but cannot show what she is boasting about
She could also get a policeman or policewomen the sack because of her boasting
Deep water with who?
You really are a nasty piece of work!
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You know she’s in deep water if she fails to deny it but cannot show what she is boasting about
She could also get a policeman or policewomen the sack because of her boasting
😂😂😂😂😂😂.
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Off out now but I intend to get to the bottom of why CAL has not denied such explosive headlines
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Deep water with who?
You really are a nasty piece of work!
Honestly, I’ve never heard such garbage 🙈🙈🙈
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Well let’s see what I can find out?
So I can start writing a book and the police will give me access to ALL crime seen photos
They wouldn't give YOU access to anything, you're not an author and given your track record .....
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Off out now but I intend to get to the bottom of why CAL has not denied such explosive headlines
I hope she doesn’t deny them, I hope they are her own words, I doubt it though. Mine would have been a very lot stronger 👍
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Why would being an author entitle someone to see such a photo?
Out of interest, how have the other photos got into the public domain?
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I hope she doesn’t deny them, I hope they are her own words, I doubt it though. Mine would have been a very lot stronger 👍
It would be a bit weird to keep writing to someone who sent you "twisted" letters though.
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You can't have it both ways when writing about a true murder. When you request information and pics you expect to receive gruesome and highly distasteful material in order to get a clearer picture of what happened and how it happened.
Why CAL turned round and called it twisted beggars belief. What else did she expect ?
This book was obviously her first true crime story so she should have been prepared for the unexpected and she obviously wasn't ! If she'd asked JB for information describing certain scenes of the crime then he's going to oblige isn't he ? Afterall she was writing a book and because this was a true crime it had to be as authentic as was possible so descriptions would/could have been graphic-----and for that JB is called twisted ??
What's wrong with the woman ? This happened before with another author didn't it ? Making up things.
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Take it up with Justice - he's the one who advised me to see who starts it.
You're the one who's trolling.
I'm taking it up with you because you know find well you have ignored Jackie and favour of having a dig at others.
You as bad, if not worse because you're hypocritical.
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Why would being an author entitle someone to see such a photo?
Out of interest, how have the other photos got into the public domain?
Mike has put a lot out there hasn’t he on this site when he was trusted as the Advocate for Bamber, I think anyway? Bamber handed lots of stuff to Mike.
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I'm taking it up with you because you know find well you have ignored Jackie and favour of having a dig at others.
You as bad, if not worse because you're hypocritical.
I only just started looking out for who starts the trouble. If you disagree with Jackie, or even insult her, that's up to you, but don't plead innocence. When your mates join in, it becomes worse. One of them has pretty much admitted that she'll keep going for Jackie.
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Off out now but I intend to get to the bottom of why CAL has not denied such explosive headlines
You couldn't get to the bottom of a teacup! You just cause shit for people.
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I'm taking it up with you because you know find well you have ignored Jackie and favour of having a dig at others.
You as bad, if not worse because you're hypocritical.
Oh yes, spot on Caroline, he’s always in the mix 👍
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Mike has put a lot out there hasn’t he on this site when he was trusted as the Advocate for Bamber, I think anyway? Bamber handed lots of stuff to Mike.
OK, thanks. The photos which come up on Google images don't appear to have come directly from this site though.
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Why would being an author entitle someone to see such a photo?
Out of interest, how have the other photos got into the public domain?
Authors or researches make an official request to access the files, they don't just turn up knocking on the door!
Mike took pictures of the CS photo's when he saw then in Bamber solicitors office. We actually have no right to see them!
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Oh yes, spot on Caroline, he’s always in the mix 👍
But you wanted me to see who starts it, and I have done that.
Please call me "Kaldin" rather than "he".
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But you wanted me to see who starts it, and I have done that.
Please call me "Kaldin" rather than "he".
Sorry Kaldin 👍
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I only just started looking out for who starts the trouble. If you disagree with Jackie, or even insult her, that's up to you, but don't plead innocence. When your mates join in, it becomes worse. One of them has pretty much admitted that she'll keep going for Jackie.
I think you are fully aware of her behaviour - you choose to ignore it because she supports innocence. So don't you plead innocence either. I will also keep going for Jackie each and every time, she does it to me or I believe she's trolling. If you don't like it - tough. Left to her own devices - she's a nightmare and has been banned more times than any other poster. You keep defending her!
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OK, thanks. The photos which come up on Google images don't appear to have come directly from this site though.
Because people have copied them!
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But you wanted me to see who starts it, and I have done that.
Please call me "Kaldin" rather than "he".
You were already well aware and chose to ignore until one of us retaliated ................... Kaldin.
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It would be a bit weird to keep writing to someone who sent you "twisted" letters though.
What when your writing a book about the said person? Oh come on Kaldin, as I said I don’t think CAL used them words and does it matter he’s not in prison for a petty crime.
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What when your writing a book about the said person? Oh come on Kaldin, as I said I don’t think CAL used them words and does it matter he’s not in prison for a petty crime.
It's screamingly obvious that she didn't Kaldin has even said as much!
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OK, thanks. The photos which come up on Google images don't appear to have come directly from this site though.
Copies of copies ect. I don’t know who else would have access other than Lawyers or the people Bamber chooses to allow access. Even to get a trial transcript is hard to get unless it’s through a Lawyer?
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I think you are fully aware of her behaviour - you choose to ignore it because she supports innocence. So don't you plead innocence either. I will also keep going for Jackie each and every time, she does it to me or I believe she's trolling. If you don't like it - tough. Left to her own devices - she's a nightmare and has been banned more times than any other poster. You keep defending her!
Well there you have it - you've just admitted that you'll keep going for her.
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You were already well aware and chose to ignore until one of us retaliated ................... Kaldin.
You didn't retaliate though - you started it!
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Well there you have it - you've just admitted that you'll keep going for her.
I've never denied it - I have told her that in the past. When she stops aiming her posts at me and learns how to debate instead of hurling accusations and just slagging people off - there won't be any need for anyone to have a go at her but it won't happen.
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You didn't retaliate though - you started it!
I did indeed - with a little cartoon. ::) - mainly because I knew/know why this thread was started.
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I've never denied it - I have told her that in the past. When she stops aiming her posts at me and learns how to debate instead of hurling accusations and just slagging people off - there won't be any need for anyone to have a go at her but it won't happen.
She didn't do that in this thread though, and you started baiting her straightaway. You shouldn't go for someone just because they disagree with you.
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I did indeed - with a little cartoon. ::) - mainly because I knew/know why this thread was started.
Stop griping then!
There have been a few threads on this subject, but this one is about whether or not Carol Lee said Jeremy sent her twisted letters.
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She didn't do that in this thread though, and you started baiting her straightaway. You shouldn't go for someone just because they disagree with you.
It's not about disagreeing - I don't mind that. She baits me all of the time and KNOW you have seen that but have been selective when you have chose to step in. Had it been Jackie, you'd have said nothing. However, as of now, I won't do that and lets just see what happens?
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Stop griping then!
There have been a few threads on this subject, but this one is about whether or not Carol Lee said Jeremy sent her twisted letters.
I'll gripe as much as I like!
There doesn't need to be a dozen threads about the same topic. She started the topic as a means of having a dig against someone who can't argue back . It's really not difficult to understand!
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There is a heading which states " Jeremy Bamber has sent me hundreds of twisted letters " and when highlighted---------it's all about Men's Problems !! I don't want to know !
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There is a heading which states " Jeremy Bamber has sent me hundreds of twisted letters " and when highlighted---------it's all about Men's Problems !! I don't want to know !
Don't know what you mean Lookout?
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The red forum will make something of it------guaranteed !
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I'll gripe as much as I like!
There doesn't need to be a dozen threads about the same topic. She started the topic as a means of having a dig against someone who can't argue back . It's really not difficult to understand!
Why can't Carol Lee answer back?
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Don't know what you mean Lookout?
When you google CAL's twisted letters.
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Why can't Carol Lee answer back?
She's not going to is she if it means more publicity ?
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Thanks Gringo
It’s all so obvious and a disgrace. A good bit of journalism would be to track down the police man or women who gave her the photo she is bragging about in news articles and get him or her the sack.
"Track down"? Yeah, you'd like that, wouldn't you? You who are the true representation of everything evil and devious. Why don't you remind us of how Julie was tracked down and how Canadian police received information regarding her past life. Hitler would have loved to have you and your acolytes on his team. You'd have done a fine job of tracking down innocents who were other than everything you stand for.
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She's not going to is she if it means more publicity ?
More publicity sells more books 👍
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"Track down"? Yeah, you'd like that, wouldn't you? You who are the true representation of everything evil and devious. Why don't you remind us of how Julie was tracked down and how Canadian police received information regarding her past life. Hitler would have loved to have you and your acolytes on his team. You'd have done a fine job of tracking down innocents who were other than everything you stand for.
There's no need to bring Hitler into this. :P
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More publicity sells more books 👍
These people would go bankrupt if it was left to me. I have unread ones---for posterity only.
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Why can't Carol Lee answer back?
Maybe she has.
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Maybe she has.
There you are then.
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Well let’s see what I can find out?
So I can start writing a book and the police will give me access to ALL crime seen photos
You might need to be literate before going down that road.
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You might need to be literate before going down that road.
An unnecessary attack.
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Back ;D
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Maybe she has.
Can you point me to the right place where I find CAL makes it clear the bombshell statement in her name was wrong
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You might need to be literate before going down that road.
Jane trolling again
The relatives must be proud
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I know Jan touched on it slightly but when is the bombshell evidence of the wallet going to be shown in the meticulously researched docu/drama
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An unnecessary attack.
I tell you what. NEXT time that excuse for a woman threatens one of us with the police or implies she can get someone's qualifications revoked, perhaps, instead of siding with the lying xxxxx, you'll lend some support to the poster she's currently targeting. Oh, and whilst I'm about it, that you choose to defend a woman who's been banned from more forums, and set up false accounts to destroy other posters' reputations, says much of your own character.
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Jane trolling again
The relatives must be proud
I learned a lot from you. NONE of it anything to be proud of.
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My motto is------Better the Devil you know !!
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I tell you what. NEXT time that excuse for a woman threatens one of us with the police or implies she can get someone's qualifications revoked, perhaps, instead of siding with the lying xxxxx, you'll lend some support to the poster she's currently targeting. Oh, and whilst I'm about it, that you choose to defend a woman who's been banned from more forums, and set up false accounts to destroy other posters' reputations, says much of your own character.
How many forums have I been banned from exactly?
Are you talking about the forum I got closed down for abusive behaviour
Maybe you would like to state whose qualifications I threatened to get revoked because you know that’s a lie and never happened
Then you had better state what false accounts I set up to destroy other people reputations
I suggest you confer with NGB re the above and then issue a public apology and then leave the forum for good
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Cannot wait for the answer and then we can go back to the important point of the lengths CAL will go to in which to sell books
In case you forgot in your temper tantrum we are here to discuss a MOJ case
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The meaning of meticulous
Showing great attention to detail
Very careful and precise
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I rest my case Jane the liar
Re: PEN PAL FROM HELL Jeremy Bamber sent me hundreds of twisted letters from prison
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An unnecessary attack.
I tell you what. NEXT time that excuse for a woman threatens one of us with the police or implies she can get someone's qualifications revoked, perhaps, instead of siding with the lying xxxxx, you'll lend some support to the poster she's currently targeting. Oh, and whilst I'm about it, that you choose to defend a woman who's been banned from more forums, and set up false accounts to destroy other posters' reputations, says much of your own character.
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How many forums have I been banned from exactly?
Are you talking about the forum I got closed down for abusive behaviour
Maybe you would like to state whose qualifications I threatened to get revoked because you know that’s a lie and never happened
Then you had better state what false accounts I set up to destroy other people reputations
I suggest you confer with NGB re the above and then issue a public apology and then leave the forum for good
When hell freezes over you might get an apology from someone. Thus far NGB has ignored your demand, as have all the others who you've made similar demands of. You may be assured that my name is on the list of decliners
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I rest my case Jane the liar
Re: PEN PAL FROM HELL Jeremy Bamber sent me hundreds of twisted letters from prison
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Quote from: Kaldin on Today at 12:01 PM
An unnecessary attack.
I tell you what. NEXT time that excuse for a woman threatens one of us with the police or implies she can get someone's qualifications revoked, perhaps, instead of siding with the lying xxxxx, you'll lend some support to the poster she's currently targeting. Oh, and whilst I'm about it, that you choose to defend a woman who's been banned from more forums, and set up false accounts to destroy other posters' reputations, says much of your own character.[/col
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So you're saying you've never been banned from a forum, or told lies, or generally been devious?
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I am waiting for your reply or I am sure everyone that is impartial re Jeremy Bamber will draw there own conclusions
My questions are clear and concise
You have made accusations now prove them
I am very happy for this to be discussed on an open forum and I am quite happy for Ngb to be bought into this as you are obviously referring to him
You also mentioned me regarding Julie Mugford and personal Information that was known about her when you know for a fact it was open knowledge where she lived and worked
You are connected to the family and they amount to slander which is now a serious matter
You have got away with this behaviour long enough and not only to me but anyone who thinks JB is not guilty. It’s unacceptable behaviour
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I tell you what. NEXT time that excuse for a woman threatens one of us with the police or implies she can get someone's qualifications revoked, perhaps, instead of siding with the lying xxxxx, you'll lend some support to the poster she's currently targeting. Oh, and whilst I'm about it, that you choose to defend a woman who's been banned from more forums, and set up false accounts to destroy other posters' reputations, says much of your own character.
She's not targetting any of you in this thread, or doing any of that other stuff.
I don't know anything about who's been banned or who's had false accounts - I just comment on what I see.
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An unnecessary attack.
whats it got to do with you,your another shit stirrer and the same as jackie when you clowns dont agree you start insulting members
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whats it got to do with you,your another shit stirrer and the same as jackie when you clowns dont agree you start insulting members
Sami insulting and trolling
Try sticking to the thread
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Sami insulting and trolling
Try sticking to the thread
youre a fanatic who constantly insults members who think jb is guilty.how many forums have you been banned from for trolling of insulting ive lost count can you tell me,oh once you run out of fingers use your toes to continue the count
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youre a fanatic who constantly insults members who think jb is guilty.how many forums have you been banned from for trolling of insulting ive lost count can you tell me,oh once you run out of fingers use your toes to continue the count
You can’t stop can you. You think by insulting everyone who thinks JB is innocent it will ruin the forum
Why don’t you go and play with your friends who have been in prison for armed robbery
#nothingtobragabout
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You can’t stop can you. You think by insulting everyone who thinks JB is innocent it will ruin the forum
Why don’t you go and play with your friends who have been in prison for armed robbery
#nothingtobragabout
ive got friends that are also doing time for murder,supplying class drugs,importation of firearms,and money laundering,their still my mates no matter what they have done.more to the point at least ive got friends unlike you.poor thing
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ive got friends that are also doing time for murder,supplying class drugs,importation of firearms,and money laundering,their still my mates no matter what they have done.more to the point at least ive got friends unlike you.poor thing
Lovely
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Lovely
Its only like your Bestie Bamber, I bet non of Sami’s friends are child killers like yours 🙈
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ive got friends that are also doing time for murder,supplying class drugs,importation of firearms,and money laundering,their still my mates no matter what they have done.more to the point at least ive got friends unlike you.poor thing
And you say you are friends with Ann Eaton? ???
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Its only like your Bestie Bamber, I bet non of Sami’s friends are child killers like yours 🙈
:)) :)) :))
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She's not targetting any of you in this thread, or doing any of that other stuff.
I don't know anything about who's been banned or who's had false accounts - I just comment on what I see.
Don't play semantics with me. You're obviouly I one of her acolytes and are only capable of seeing what she tells you to see.
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And you say you are friends with Ann Eaton? ???
according to jackie i am anne eaton and rj is related to the family.dont ask me how i know ,i wont be telling you
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I think Jackie’s letters should be put on here PEN PAL FROM HELL 👍
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I think Jackie’s letters should be put on here PEN PAL FROM HELL 👍
Yes RJ, it would be really amusing to see how Jackie sucked up to him and what she was offering on his release. SHOULD such a miracle ever occur, he could probably make a bit from publishing them.
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Yes RJ, it would be really amusing to see how Jackie sucked up to him and what she was offering on his release. SHOULD such a miracle ever occur, he could probably make a bit from publishing them.
jane its clear to see why shes been banned from other forums
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according to jackie i am anne eaton and rj is related to the family.dont ask me how i know ,i wont be telling you
I recall you saying you were acquainted or friendly with her. Just struck me as odd that she would associate with someone who's friends have committed "murder, supplying class drugs,importation of firearms,and money laundering"
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I recall you saying you were acquainted or friendly with her. Just struck me as odd that she would associate with someone who's friends have committed "murder, supplying class drugs,importation of firearms,and money laundering"
yes i thought it might be laugh ,seen as they think they know who i am ,i thought i would offer them some sweetners .also because the pro guilters hate her :)) :))
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yes i thought it might be laugh ,seen as they think they know who i am ,i thought i would offer them some sweetners .also because the pro guilters hate her :)) :))
What pro guilters hate her?
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Yes RJ, it would be really amusing to see how Jackie sucked up to him and what she was offering on his release. SHOULD such a miracle ever occur, he could probably make a bit from publishing them.
I wouldn’t normally, but she had opened herself up, she’s accusing someone of mistrust with Bambers letters, she put hers on a forum out of spite for him because he dropped her out of his circle of trust? It was because he hadn’t told her about something Jane?
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What pro guilters hate her?
You been asleep 😂😂
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What pro guilters hate her?
sorry my mistake the not guilters.like ive told lookout i wouldnt know anne eaton if she were stood next to me,
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whats it got to do with you,your another shit stirrer and the same as jackie when you clowns dont agree you start insulting members
It was a comment on a public forum where I can reply. The insult was from Jane to Jackie. You jump in when things aren't directed at you. I thought we sorted things out earlier so why are you getting abusive again? Have you no self control?
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Don't play semantics with me. You're obviouly I one of her acolytes and are only capable of seeing what she tells you to see.
In that case, you compared me to a Nazi. Now that's abusive, so don't play the victim.
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It was a comment on a public forum where I can reply. The insult was from Jane to Jackie. You jump in when things aren't directed at you. I thought we sorted things out earlier so why are you getting abusive again? Have you no self control?
here we go again.your the one with no self control if you are going to butt in than you should do the same when jackie insults members your blind to her comments but not to people that reply,like i told you before i will confront trolls and bullies .i prefer to debate but am quiet willing to carry on with you for as long as you like
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here we go again.your the one with no self control if you are going to butt in than you should do the same when jackie insults members your blind to her comments but not to people that reply,like i told you before i will confront trolls and bullies .i prefer to debate but am quiet willing to carry on with you for as long as you like
You jump in when others bully Jackie in order to join in, but say nothing when your mates start trolling or baiting.
I've had enough of your moods. I have no problem confronting you, so if you want to carry this on and on, be my guest. It does make you a bit of an arse though ...
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You jump in when others bully Jackie in order to join in, but say nothing when your mates start trolling or baiting.
I've had enough of your moods. I have no problem confronting you, so if you want to carry this on and on, be my guest. It does make you a bit of an arse though ...
go and stick your head up your arse you little stupid boy and see if it fits,youre a loser who cant debate without calling peoples names stick the dummy back in your arse thats where most of your words come from :)
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go and stick your head up your arse you little stupid boy and see if it fits,youre a loser who cant debate without calling peoples names stick the dummy back in your arse thats where most of your words come from :)
Dear oh dear, you really don't have any self control. 8)
I told Jackie ealier that you and I had sorted the problem out, but then you started it again. In future, don't ask me to "move on". I did that before and you threw it back at me.
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Dear oh dear, you really don't have any self control. 8)
I told Jackie ealier that you and I had sorted the problem out, but then you started it again. In future, don't ask me to "move on". I did that before and you threw it back at me.
put me on ignore ,no one forces you to debate with me.jackie is your twin ;D
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put me on ignore ,no one forces you to debate with me.jackie is your twin ;D
No.
I can assure you that Jackie is not my twin. I am independent of Jackie, and my views are my own. That's what you don't like.
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You jump in when others bully Jackie in order to join in, but say nothing when your mates start trolling or baiting.
I've had enough of your moods. I have no problem confronting you, so if you want to carry this on and on, be my guest. It d
oes make you a bit of an arse though ...
And from whom do you think we novices learned these tactics? When it comes to bullying, threats, viciousness, lies and deception, Jackie wears the crown. WE are still in the infancy stage. She's even been known to turn on her fellow supporters. Believe me, she's not in need of your support.
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Dear oh dear, you really don't have any self control. 8)
I told Jackie ealier that you and I had sorted the problem out, but then you started it again. In future, don't ask me to "move on". I did that before and you threw it back at me.
Clearly neither of you is above discussing other posters behind their backs then. GOD alone knows what mischief she'll stoop to if she's prepared to go down that path but she'll make sure it's not she who gets the blame.
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And from whom do you think we novices learned these tactics? When it comes to bullying, threats, viciousness, lies and deception, Jackie wears the crown. WE are still in the infancy stage. She's even been known to turn on her fellow supporters. Believe me, she's not in need of your support.
What a strange admission. Your modesty is noted but from observation it is safe to conclude that you are well past the infancy stage when it comes to bullying, threats, viciousness, lies and deception.
If you leave out the qualifying statement, it works better as a stand alone sentence.
You and the rest of the not so merry band ( the WE that you refer to ) are still in the infancy stage.
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Clearly neither of you is above discussing other posters behind their backs then. GOD alone knows what mischief she'll stoop to if she's prepared to go down that path but she'll make sure it's not she who gets the blame.
I haven't talked about anyone behind their backs. My post to Jackie is on the forum for anyone to see. No need to apologise.
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And from whom do you think we novices learned these tactics? When it comes to bullying, threats, viciousness, lies and deception, Jackie wears the crown. WE are still in the infancy stage. She's even been known to turn on her fellow supporters. Believe me, she's not in need of your support.
I know she doesn't need my support. You jump in when any of your mates are embroiled in a ruck with her - are you suggesting that they need your support?
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And from whom do you think we novices learned these tactics? When it comes to bullying, threats, viciousness, lies and deception, Jackie wears the crown. WE are still in the infancy stage. She's even been known to turn on her fellow supporters. Believe me, she's not in need of your support.
I have screenshot everything
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I know she doesn't need my support. You jump in when any of your mates are embroiled in a ruck with her - are you suggesting that they need your support?
This goes back way prior to your advent so by poking your nose into something which is none of your concern, it seems you may be guilty of exactly what you accuse me of. I suggest you look into the history before pinning your flag to a particular mast unless you're proud to be tarred with the same brush as the woman you're supporting.
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This goes back way prior to your advent so by poking your nose into something which is none of your concern, it seems you may be guilty of exactly what you accuse me of. I suggest you look into the history before pinning your flag to a particular mast unless you're proud to be tarred with the same brush as the woman you're supporting.
It's my concern if you're disrupting threads with your abuse and baiting. I will speak out if you keep doing it. You've pretty much admitted that you deliberately go for her.
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I have screenshot everything
Trolling
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Over the years we have helped thousands of public figures, HNWIs and professionals who have suffered from harassment. Our highly-regarded media and communications law department is unique because all our solicitors work exclusively in this field. This means that our clients receive the best possible advice and representation.
Those who behave abusively online are referred to as internet trolls, and examples of ‘trolling’ include: -
Posting repeated ‘comments’ on message boards or news articles, attacking someone’s
character and/or invading their privacy, or designed to provoke argument
Repeatedly sending abusive or otherwise upsetting Tweets
‘Following’ a person into online chatrooms or Facebook in order to interrupt conversations
and invade their privacy
Trolls sometimes labour under the misapprehension that they can say and do what they want online. Alternatively, they may take the view that they can get away with it (perhaps by disguising their identity).
Everyone has a right to enjoy what this world has to offer without fear of attack – and that extends to the World Wide Web. Under the law of England and Wales, any course of conduct (two or more incidents) designed to cause a person alarm or distress, or where the perpetrator ought to know that is the likely outcome, is harassment. It is a defence for the perpetrator to show that their conduct was reasonable, but with ‘trolling’ this will rarely be the case.
Harassment is a criminal offence contrary to the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 and punishable by up to six months’ imprisonment. Victims should consider whether they wish to make a report to the Police. Unfortunately, however, the Police are often overstretched and under-resourced, and online crime of this nature is sometimes not seen as a priority. In those circumstances you may want to take civil action against the person concerned.
Our trolling solicitors can help you by: –
Writing a Letter of Claim, or ‘cease and desist’ letter, to the person responsible
Issuing a Claim for harassment
Securing an interim or post-Judgment injunction prohibiting the behaviour complained of
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That being the case, your posts and threats, past and present, will certainly be of interest coupled with the bans you've received.
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what does it actully prove anyway.
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That being the case, your posts and threats, past and present, will certainly be of interest coupled with the bans you've received.
Ive still got the threats and abuse I received from the owner of the site, I wouldn’t dream of using them though, it’s a forum, you’ve got chance to walk away or give it back, if she’s not happy toddle off 😂
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dont bother rj ,jane.they are just a bunch of losers.the lot of them.let them carry on iam more than happy to give it to back with interest
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That being the case, your posts and threats, past and present, will certainly be of interest coupled with the bans you've received.
I welcome that and I have screenshot every abusive post by you Sami Caroline and RJ to myself, gringo and Kaldin.
You won’t be able to hide behind a false name anymore and it will be worth every penny. Keep it up the more ammunition to get you charged
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I welcome that and I have screenshot every abusive post by you Sami Caroline and RJ to myself, gringo and Kaldin.
You won’t be able to hide behind a false name anymore and it will be worth every penny. Keep it up the more ammunition to get you charged
your paranoid and a little crazy,also screenshoot the insults you and your supporters have dished.you just cant debate without insulting other members.your arse has been banned from the justice forum for the same antics as you do on here,every time people are being civil in debating it gets up your nose so you have badger other members,you are waste of time :)
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It's my concern if you're disrupting threads with your abuse and baiting. I will speak out if you keep doing it. You've pretty much admitted that you deliberately go for her.
and the same will be done to you when stick your neck,if i see a insult directed at jane from you or your other half than i will reply ,and no one will stop me,should be fun from now on
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Going back to this person who this thread is about.....I don't believe CAL actually said the word 'Twisted' in the 'Sun' newspaper. where she is quoted is when she speaks and she wasn't quoted for the sentence the word 'Twisted' was used. The paper wrote ......
Here Carol breaks down the chilling case against Bamber and the shocking evidence she claims has proven his guilt.
The paper then goes on to say.... Police initially suspected Bamber's schizophrenic sister etc...that her twisted sibling had murdered his family...etc..
The paper then continued...And Carol has previously revealed in her book that she was left with little doubt that Sheila was innocent after seeing a photo from the crime scene that has never been released to the public.
(and this is the reason for the heading 'Carol breaks down the chilling case' etc)
It then goes on in Carol's own words..."The reason I have never gone into ( the content of the photo) is because it contains the children.
None of us have seen this photo but I would hazard a guess from CAL's words " And they had a steady hand" that the 5 shots each to the boys were so precise and close together that only a competent marksmen ( person) could administer them. Not someone who is having a psychotic episode!
It also makes sense of the detrimental words thrown out by the 'Innocent' parties on here..... Why?....because CAL is giving a good account of JB's Guilt.
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Going back to this person who this thread is about.....I don't believe CAL actually said the word 'Twisted' in the 'Sun' newspaper. where she is quoted is when she speaks and she wasn't quoted for the sentence the word 'Twisted' was used. The paper wrote ......
Here Carol breaks down the chilling case against Bamber and the shocking evidence she claims has proven his guilt.
The paper then goes on to say.... Police initially suspected Bamber's schizophrenic sister etc...that her twisted sibling had murdered his family...etc..
The paper then continued...And Carol has previously revealed in her book that she was left with little doubt that Sheila was innocent after seeing a photo from the crime scene that has never been released to the public.
(and this is the reason for the heading 'Carol breaks down the chilling case' etc)
It then goes on in Carol's own words..."The reason I have never gone into ( the content of the photo) is because it contains the children.
None of us have seen this photo but I would hazard a guess from CAL's words " And they had a steady hand" that the 5 shots each to the boys were so precise and close together that only a competent marksmen ( person) could administer them. Not someone who is having a psychotic episode!
It also makes sense of the detrimental words thrown out by the 'Innocent' parties on here..... Why?....because CAL is giving a good account of JB's Guilt.
Great post 👍
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CAL had no right to give an account on guilt, when a rank refusal by the film production team were offered up to date evidence concerning the case.
I hope the woman one day eats her words and chokes on them while she's at it.
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Ive still got the threats and abuse I received from the owner of the site, I wouldn’t dream of using them though, it’s a forum, you’ve got chance to walk away or give it back, if she’s not happy toddle off 😂
That’s exactly what the abse is for.
No I suggest you toddle off
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Lookout....I think you'll find every one has the right to their own opinion.
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This goes back way prior to your advent so by poking your nose into something which is none of your concern, it seems you may be guilty of exactly what you accuse me of. I suggest you look into the history before pinning your flag to a particular mast unless you're proud to be tarred with the same brush as the woman you're supporting.
How dare you. Kaldin was on this forum way before you when there was sensible debate
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and the same will be done to you when stick your neck,if i see a insult directed at jane from you or your other half than i will reply ,and no one will stop me,should be fun from now on
I don't insult Jane - she insults me. :))
Don't think that you can intimidate me, you daft woman. ;D
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Lookout....I think you'll find every one has the right to their own opinion.
I know----I gave it !
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CAL had no right to give an account on guilt, when a rank refusal by the film production team were offered up to date evidence concerning the case.
I hope the woman one day eats her words and chokes on them while she's at it.
Oh dear, another insult 🙈
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your paranoid and a little crazy,also screenshoot the insults you and your supporters have dished.you just cant debate without insulting other members.your arse has been banned from the justice forum for the same antics as you do on here,every time people are being civil in debating it gets up your nose so you have badger other members,you are waste of time :)
Actually I was successful in getting the other forum closed down
Where my praise for that :)
Also getting one of the hardcore members Tim to leave because I exposed his racist posts
Very proud of myself
Thank you
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Oh dear, another insult 🙈
You should know.
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Oh dear, another insult 🙈
Not to another member. If insults towards people in the public eye aren't allowed, nobody will be able to say anything negative about Jeremy. ;D
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Actually I was successful in getting the other forum closed down
Where my praise for that :)
Also getting one of the hardcore members Tim to leave because I exposed his racist posts
Very proud of myself
Thank you
Tim still posts 👍
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Not to another member. If insults towards people in the public eye aren't allowed, nobody will be able to say anything negative about Jeremy. ;D
Wrong, he’s a convicted criminal the others aren’t 👍
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You should know.
You taught me 🙈
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Going back to this person who this thread is about.....I don't believe CAL actually said the word 'Twisted' in the 'Sun' newspaper. where she is quoted is when she speaks and she wasn't quoted for the sentence the word 'Twisted' was used. The paper wrote ......
Here Carol breaks down the chilling case against Bamber and the shocking evidence she claims has proven his guilt.
The paper then goes on to say.... Police initially suspected Bamber's schizophrenic sister etc...that her twisted sibling had murdered his family...etc..
The paper then continued...And Carol has previously revealed in her book that she was left with little doubt that Sheila was innocent after seeing a photo from the crime scene that has never been released to the public.
(and this is the reason for the heading 'Carol breaks down the chilling case' etc)
It then goes on in Carol's own words..."The reason I have never gone into ( the content of the photo) is because it contains the children.
None of us have seen this photo but I would hazard a guess from CAL's words " And they had a steady hand" that the 5 shots each to the boys were so precise and close together that only a competent marksmen ( person) could administer them. Not someone who is having a psychotic episode!
It also makes sense of the detrimental words thrown out by the 'Innocent' parties on here..... Why?....because CAL is giving a good account of JB's Guilt.
The headlines
PEN PAL FROM HELL Jeremy Bamber has sent me hundreds of twisted letters from prison – I know the White House Farm killer is guilty
Where has she retracted that
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Not to another member. If insults towards people in the public eye aren't allowed, nobody will be able to say anything negative about Jeremy. ;D
I like your ganging up Kaldin 👍. Don’t moan next time
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Attack is the best form of defence on this forum right now, it's hideous !
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Tim still posts 👍
I might have to repost his racist posts he can still be charged because of the serious content of them
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Attack is the best form of defence on this forum right now, it's hideous !
I don’t mind Lookout I know you don’t mean it 😂😂
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I know----I gave it !
And so has Carol!
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Wrong, he’s a convicted criminal the others aren’t 👍
Ah yes, but calling him a psychopath without proof is still an insult. 8)
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I like your ganging up Kaldin 👍. Don’t moan next time
Why not? You and your chums moan at me.
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Attack is the best form of defence on this forum right now, it's hideous !
Lookout the reason it’s particularly bad at the moment is the guilters know there are new people watching the forum and they will be trying to stop them joining
They are outnumbered at the moment by sensible rational posters and they don’t like it
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Ah yes, but calling him a psychopath without proof is still an insult. 8)
No his own defence psychiatrist called him that and it is well documented by different parties 👍
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Tim still posts 👍
On here? I can only find one Tim in the members list, and he has 0 posts.
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No his own defence psychiatrist called him that and it is well documented by different parties 👍
There's still no proof.
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On here? I can only find one Tim in the members list, and he has 0 posts.
No on Red Kaldin 👍. Jackie was on about red forum
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No on Red Kaldin 👍. Jackie was on about red forum
Oh, OK.
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On here? I can only find one Tim in the members list, and he has 0 posts.
Kaldin they will probably be talking about the other forum that I got closed down for a while
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Kaldin they will probably be talking about the other forum that I got closed down for a while
The one you got banned from do you mean?
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Which forum? The red one is still going.
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It also makes sense of the detrimental words thrown out by the 'Innocent' parties on here..... Why?....because CAL is giving a good account of JB's Guilt.
Not really. The version of events she puts near the end of the book of how she thinks Jeremy could have carried out the murders, is not compatible with the known facts and even contradicts her own research.
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The one you got banned from do you mean?
The racist forum that I managed to get shut down for a while.
I didn’t know Tim was still posting
I need to resurrect his posts. He could do with a free holiday in Brixton
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Not really. The version of events she puts near the end of the book of how she thinks Jeremy could have carried out the murders, is not compatible with the known facts and even contradicts her own research.
Generous interpretation, David.
Spoke to those who think him guilty and rehashed what they said, because she likes writing about murder and death, would be a more accurate description.
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Not really. The version of events she puts near the end of the book of how she thinks Jeremy could have carried out the murders, is not compatible with the known facts and even contradicts her own research.
Generous interpretation, David.
Spoke to those who think him guilty and rehashed what they said, because she likes writing about murder and death, would be a more accurate description.
This is an excerpt of a review of the book:
Carol also interviews all the ex officers and family. She never questions their versions of events with the new available evidence, a bit like interviewing Harold Shipman and taking all his explanations for all his patient deaths at face value.
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This is an excerpt of a review of the book:
Spot on. XD
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No his own defence psychiatrist called him that and it is well documented by different parties 👍
Its already been explained to you that this is BS.
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Its already been explained to you that this is BS.
explained by who
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explained by who
Me.
According to an anonymous source in Wilkes book. A psychiatrist told JBs defense team that he was a psychopath because "his memory dropped off" and didn't have any recollection of the event.
I don't even need to explain why this is nonsense.
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Me.
According to an anonymous source in Wilkes book. A psychiatrist told JBs defense team that he was a psychopath because "his memory dropped off" and didn't have any recollection of the event.
I don't even need to explain why this is nonsense.
was he appointed by the court or one of the two parties involved
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was he appointed by the court or one of the two parties involved
Nobody knows who it was or if it even happened.
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JackieD...
The headlines
PEN PAL FROM HELL Jeremy Bamber has sent me hundreds of twisted letters from prison – I know the White House Farm killer is guilty
Where has she retracted that
Why should she retract it? For a start it may not actually be her words, but hype in The Sun Newspaper. If not and it is proved to be her words, then it's her prerogative to state what she believes to be the truth.
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JackieD...
The headlines
PEN PAL FROM HELL Jeremy Bamber has sent me hundreds of twisted letters from prison – I know the White House Farm killer is guilty
Where has she retracted that
Why should she retract it? For a start it may not actually be her words, but hype in The Sun Newspaper. If not and it is proved to be her words, then it's her prerogative to state what she believes to be the truth.
As its already been pointed out by Gringo. She has claimed a few years ago that she received "dozens" of "friendly" letters from him. Now its "hundreds" of twisted letters. They cannot both be true.
Not that this is really a big deal anyway.
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Which forum? The red one is still going.
There have been two versions of that forum. The first was closed down. Jackie was responsible for that.
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Nobody knows who it was or if it even happened.
cant the ct get wilkes to remove it
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I might have to repost his racist posts he can still be charged because of the serious content of them
You are quite right. He disappeared for a long time when he was exposed. Prosecution was a serious risk he faced.
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Not really. The version of events she puts near the end of the book of how she thinks Jeremy could have carried out the murders, is not compatible with the known facts and even contradicts her own research.
The prerogative word being....COULD I have CAL's book, but you are doing a brilliant job in promoting it to those who haven't read it.
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Could any believers clarify which CAL claims or claims made on her behalf they actually do still believe. It seems to be a moving target at the moment.
Are we now agreed that CAL never said twisted? If so, are the descriptions of "friendly bulletins" an accurate view of CAL's thoughts as summed up in her 2015 interview with the Yorkshire Post?
Regardless of the position on twisted v friendly or a mixture of the two possibly. Which of CAL's claims is now the definitive position of the actual amount of these twisted letters/friendly bulletins? Is it a pile, dozens or hundreds?
There are nine possible positions to take from the above options, enough for believers to have their own bespoke opinion.
How about a pile of twisted letters?
Perhaps you believe that there are hundreds made up of twisted/friendly bulletins?
Perhaps your favoured options are dozens of friendly bulletins?
Which is the current position?
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As its already been pointed out by Gringo. She has claimed a few years ago that she received "dozens" of "friendly" letters from him. Now its "hundreds" of twisted letters. They cannot both be true.
Not that this is really a big deal anyway.
You said it David!!
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You said it David!!
Shows CAL to be unreliable and not a credible source. No consistency, no credibility.
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Shows CAL to be unreliable and not a credible source. No consistency, no credibility.
In your opinion!
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Spot on. XD
Ditto
Another complete waste of money
I would like to see a book written from a legal point of view
There is plenty to pull apart there and a whole new viewpoint
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The prerogative word being....COULD I have CAL's book, but you are doing a brilliant job in promoting it to those who haven't read it.
Really. That’s in your opinion. The book can’t be very good as she is obviously quite happy to have lies broadcast to sell it
Very desperate comes to mind.
I guarantee she won’t be able to produce one twisted letter
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The prerogative word being....COULD I have CAL's book, but you are doing a brilliant job in promoting it to those who haven't read it.
I also have the book. If a scenario is not compatible with the physical evidence, it COULDN'T and therefore didn't happen period.
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Shows CAL to be unreliable and not a credible source. No consistency, no credibility.
Absolutely spot on
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Ditto
Another complete waste of money
I would like to see a book written from a legal point of view
There is plenty to pull apart there and a whole new viewpoint
I have considered doing this, but I suck at writing. :(
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Ditto
Another complete waste of money
I would like to see a book written from a legal point of view
There is plenty to pull apart there and a whole new viewpoint
I agree regarding some books JackieD, I've got Scott Lomax book 'Evil, Almost Beyond Belief'....Another waste of money.
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In your opinion!
By any objective view she is unreliable. Contradictory claims.
Do you think she is a reliable source?
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Journalist
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The article
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Let’s speak to Ms Pocklington to clarify
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In your opinion!
Which amounts to zero.
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Which amounts to zero.
Do you believe CAL received hundreds of letters?
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Do you believe CAL received hundreds of letters?
How many more times can I say it! YES I DO! GOT IT NOW?
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How many more times can I say it! YES I DO! GOT IT NOW?
Was she lying when she said she received dozens in 2015?
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So thousands means a minimum of 2000 letters
So Jeremy would have had to write at least one letter a day for nearly 6 years ?????
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Same article and same journo
CAL claiming she has proved his guilt
Here Carol breaks down the chilling case against Bamber and the shocking evidence she claims has proven his guilt.
The horrifying photo that 'should never be released'
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CAL supplying the photo and ‘letters’ to the journalist who wrote the article re ‘twisted letters’ from Jeremy
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As CAL has obviously spoken to the journalist and supplied the book and letters I am surprised she didn’t supply a photo of the hundreds of letters she received or at least one example of ‘twisted letter’
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Its already been explained to you that this is BS.
Dr John Bradley 👍
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Me.
According to an anonymous source in Wilkes book. A psychiatrist told JBs defense team that he was a psychopath because "his memory dropped off" and didn't have any recollection of the event.
I don't even need to explain why this is nonsense.
Dr John Bradley
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Was she lying when she said she received dozens in 2015?
You're doing what Noam Chomsky warned people about! Do you believe she only received 5 or 6?
I do wonder how you people sleep at night!
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So thousands means a minimum of 2000 letters
So Jeremy would have had to write at least one letter a day for nearly 6 years ?????
Not only can't you read, can't count either!
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You're doing what Noam Chomsky warned people about! Do you believe she only received 5 or 6?
I do wonder how you people sleep at night!
Their obsession is not my worry, CAL should have hung him out to dry the evil child killer 👍. Well done CAL for exposing him even further 😂😂😂
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As CAL has obviously spoken to the journalist and supplied the book and letters I am surprised she didn’t supply a photo of the hundreds of letters she received or at least one example of ‘twisted letter’
Well, she'd have to be a bloody mind reader to work out that some moron would accuse her of something so ridiculous. CAL is guilty of one thing - not being able to estimate the disgusting lengths a Bamber supporter will fall to! Not ALL but some!
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Their obsession is not my worry, CAL should have hung him out to dry the evil child killer 👍. Well done CAL for exposing him even further 😂😂😂
I bet she could have done!
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Well, she'd have to be a bloody mind reader to work out that some moron would accuse her of something so ridiculous. CAL is guilty of one thing - not being able to estimate the disgusting lengths a Bamber supporter will fall to! Not ALL but some!
Oh yes, Colin went through it, Anne has been through it, Julie has been through it, now it’s CAL’s turn.
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Their obsession is not my worry, CAL should have hung him out to dry the evil child killer 👍. Well done CAL for exposing him even further 😂😂😂
You are a joke as usual
Cal has made no such revelations and is clearly happy to be part of fake news
#CALEXPOSED
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Oh yes, Colin went through it, Anne has been through it, Julie has been through it, now it’s CAL’s turn.
Yes and everyone one of these people have been exposed as liars
You are well aware of that
FACT. ;D ;D ;D
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Dr John Bradley 👍
The book names nobody
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You are a joke as usual
Cal has made no such revelations and is clearly happy to be part of fake news
#CALEXPOSED
cleary theres only one joker and thats yourself.learn to debate without insulting and being rude to other members,
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You are a joke as usual
Cal has made no such revelations and is clearly happy to be part of fake news
#CALEXPOSED
Stop trolling me or can’t you help yourself?
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Stop trolling me or can’t you help yourself?
shes got no self control rj.everyone that thinks jb is guilty is on her hit list.would be nice to see her act her age not her shoe size
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cleary theres only one joker and thats yourself.learn to debate without insulting and being rude to other members,
You need to read the facts that have now shown that CAL is more than happy to condone lies
She will NEVER be able to show one of these twisted letters because they do NOT exist
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You need to read the facts that have now shown that CAL is more than happy to condone lies
She will NEVER be able to show one of these twisted letters because they do NOT exist
as youve not used any insults in the above post,i will answer ,your opinion is above and mine does not match your own,it makes no difference to the case
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Yes and everyone one of these people have been exposed as liars
You are well aware of that
FACT. ;D ;D ;D
By who? You have no right to call Colin and Anne liars, can you back this up please 👍
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By who? You have no right to call Colin and Anne liars, can you back this up please 👍
I have plenty to back it up which I will do in depth later
That’s so easy
Has the disgusting filthy post you wrote about me been removed
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I have plenty to back it up which I will do in depth later
That’s so easy
Has the disgusting filthy post you wrote about me been removed
Grow up
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I have plenty to back it up which I will do in depth later
That’s so easy
Has the disgusting filthy post you wrote about me been removed
Hope not, because you provided evidence Bamber called you Naughty 👍. So I have a right to ask you what was you doing for Bamber to call you naughty? Must have been a reason for this remark, had you said something to him in your phone call’s did you write something?
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Ngb can you let me know why real justice’s disgusting post only just been removed when it was up all night, he needs to exercise some personal control when he frequents forums
Real Justice is here to cause trouble and turn posts into sexual innuendos
Hasn’t he heard of the me to movement
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Ngb can you let me know why real justice’s disgusting post only just been removed when it was up all night, he needs to exercise some personal control when he frequents forums
Real Justice is here to cause trouble and turn posts into sexual innuendos
Hasn’t he heard of the me to movement
Not correct, I asked you about his NAUGHTY remark to you, you put it out there it’s you who is suggesting other things again
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Ngb can you let me know why real justice’s disgusting post only just been removed when it was up all night, he needs to exercise some personal control when he frequents forums
Real Justice is here to cause trouble and turn posts into sexual innuendos
Hasn’t he heard of the me to movement
I removed several posts this morning when I received a complaint. If there is a post which needs attention it is best to report it either by using the forum report facility or by PM. A mod is likely then to be able to deal with the problem more quickly.
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You're doing what Noam Chomsky warned people about! Do you believe she only received 5 or 6?
I do wonder how you people sleep at night!
Yes I believe that she received 6 or 7 there is evidence that backs this.
Why do you think she claimed dozens in 2015?
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I removed several posts this morning when I received a complaint. If there is a post which needs attention it is best to report it either by using the forum report facility or by PM. A mod is likely then to be able to deal with the problem more quickly.
In future when I read posts that are aimed to upset me or are smutty I will report them immediately. I am sure everyone apart from the gang who like to insult people know what RJ was trying to infer
This was nothing to do with the topic of the thread which is about headlines that are not true to cash in for the said author. A tactic only a desperate author would use
If anyone disputes this I look forward to see the letters in question
I am surprised she can sleep at night using these tactics
An absolute disgrace of a women and I include the journalist who had the picture taken and believed what CAL had spun her without checking the facts
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In future when I read posts that are aimed to upset me or are smutty I will report them immediately. I am sure everyone apart from the gang who like to insult people know what RJ was trying to infer
This was nothing to do with the topic of the thread which is about headlines that are not true to cash in for the said author. A tactic only a desperate author would use
If anyone disputes this I look forward to see the letters in question
I am surprised she can sleep at night using these tactics
An absolute disgrace of a women and I include the journalist who had the picture taken and beloved what CAL had spun her without checking the facts
Jackie, I was interested why he called you this that’s all, you refer to naughty quite a lot in your posts at a time you was writing to him, I have been fair because you are interested about someone’s letters at a time you could answer your contact with him as well. I haven’t posted the letter or your comments out of respect , but I am interested in the mind of a convicted child killer and why he uses this word, because I believe it is a frequent word he uses, for whatever reason for m not sure.
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Jackie, I was interested why he called you this that’s all, you refer to naughty quite a lot in your posts at a time you was writing to him, I have been fair because you are interested about someone’s letters at a time you could answer your contact with him as well. I haven’t posted the letter or your comments out of respect , but I am interested in the mind of a convicted child killer and why he uses this word, because I believe it is a frequent word he uses, for whatever reason for m not sure.
He used the same word in his last letter to Caroline if I recall correctly.
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He used the same word in his last letter to Caroline if I recall correctly.
Thanks NGB, I’m just curious that’s all, I read a lot about Criminal profiling and the way in which these people work.
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He used the same word in his last letter to Caroline if I recall correctly.
He did indeed which I found creepy.
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No smoke without fire !
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No smoke without fire !
So when smoke head your way, don't complain!
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So when smoke head your way, don't complain!
No chance.
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Yes I believe that she received 6 or 7 there is evidence that backs this.
Why do you think she claimed dozens in 2015?
I knew what you were getting at when you pretended you wanted to just explain. I'm ahead of you gringo and so would Chomsky! ;)
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No smoke without fire !
Oh dear Lookout, what are you suggesting 🙈
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Oh dear Lookout, what are you suggesting 🙈
I'm suggesting in which context these letters were written in the first place ?
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Because I'm a straight talker I'd never either encourage nor expect anything but a similar letter in return.
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I'm suggesting in which context these letters were written in the first place ?
You must have a dirty mind! He called me 'naughty' because I had changed my mind about him - hope that clears things up for you! ::)
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You must have a dirty mind! He called me 'naughty' because I had changed my mind about him - hope that clears things up for you! ::)
Gawd, is that all ? On the contrary I think it's you who has the dirty mind ::)
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Gawd, is that all ? On the contrary I think it's you who has the dirty mind ::)
Why would it be me when I wasn't the one considering why he said it, that was you. Calm down woman no need to always have a negative comment - that won't get Bamber out! Save yourself for when it really matters! Come the glorious day! ;D ;D ;D
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Gawd, is that all ? On the contrary I think it's you who has the dirty mind ::)
Oh dear there’s an example of the twisted pen pal from hell
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Why would it be me when I wasn't the one considering why he said it, that was you. Calm down woman no need to always have a negative comment - that won't get Bamber out! Save yourself for when it really matters! Come the glorious day! ;D ;D ;D
I'm perfectly calm thankyou. It was a perfectly normal comment, unlike the rest of yours which are just foolish.
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I knew what you were getting at when you pretended you wanted to just explain. I'm ahead of you gringo and so would Chomsky! ;)
So why did she claim dozens in 2015?
If you're so far ahead you will surely be able to explain.
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So why did she claim dozens in 2015?
If you're so far ahead you will surely be able to explain.
why dont you ask her yourself.this topic is done.discuss it with your mates also discuss what the late bob w.wrote about the child killer
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So why did she claim dozens in 2015?
If you're so far ahead you will surely be able to explain.
No one needs to explain anything to you and the likes of you and even if they did, you would twist it. Ask Noam!
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why dont you ask her yourself.this topic is done.discuss it with your mates also discuss what the late bob w.wrote about the child killer
When were you appointed as the forum arbiter?
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When were you appointed as the forum arbiter?
Its not about being the forum arbiter, its knowing the difference between discussion and hounding. You don't know that difference.
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Because I'm a straight talker I'd never either encourage nor expect anything but a similar letter in return.
Oh so I’m called a dirty little pervert for asking why a child killer would refer to a said poster as Naughty, nothing sexual, yet you are implying more went on and get away with it? Is it because I’m of different gender?
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No one needs to explain anything to you and the likes of you and even if they did, you would twist it. Ask Noam!
So you have no idea and cannot explain the contradictions in CAL's accounts?
If you had understood Chomsky, then you would need to explain to yourself, not the likes of me, how it is that two contradictory statements can both be true. They can't, obviously. If you truly had any grasp of linguistics then you would need to clarify this. Whatever your opinion on the likes of me ::), there are contradictions that need explaining. You ask no questions and have no explanation.
This is an intellectually dishonest position that any student of Chomsky and language/linguistics would pick apart. It shows a looseness with language that immediately raises questions or should. Why such vague generalisations instead of accurate numbers? There is no reason other than the shaping of a narrative. Deceptive and unclear/ambiguous language is an obvious tell to anyone with any understanding of the techniques employed.
You can't, and don't attempt to explain the contradictions. Whether or not you agree that CAL is wholly unreliable is neither here nor there. Her own contradictory claims demonstrate this.
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Its not about being the forum arbiter, its knowing the difference between discussion and hounding. You don't know that difference.
Jeeze, hounding ?? For goodness sake, who's asking the most questions on the forum ? The guilters of course and for what other reason only to cause and create aggro ?
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Its not about being the forum arbiter, its knowing the difference between discussion and hounding. You don't know that difference.
??? Is the irony intended?
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Oh so I’m called a dirty little pervert for asking why a child killer would refer to a said poster as Naughty, nothing sexual, yet you are implying more went on and get away with it? Is it because I’m of different gender?
Did I say that ? No I didn't so stop inferring something that isn't there !!
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What's the matter with you men ? Besides waiting for an opportunity to cause trouble. Grow up !! Get a brain.
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What's the matter with you men ? Besides waiting for an opportunity to cause trouble. Grow up !! Get a brain.
Well what do you mean no smoke without fire?
used for saying that if something bad is being said about someone, or if something seems bad, then there is probably a good reason for it
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So you have no idea and cannot explain the contradictions in CAL's accounts?
If you had understood Chomsky, then you would need to explain to yourself, not the likes of me, how it is that two contradictory statements can both be true. They can't, obviously. If you truly had any grasp of linguistics then you would need to clarify this. Whatever your opinion on the likes of me ::), there are contradictions that need explaining. You ask no questions and have no explanation.
This is an intellectually dishonest position that any student of Chomsky and language/linguistics would pick apart. It shows a looseness with language that immediately raises questions or should. Why such vague generalisations instead of accurate numbers? There is no reason other than the shaping of a narrative. Deceptive and unclear/ambiguous language is an obvious tell to anyone with any understanding of the techniques employed.
You can't, and don't attempt to explain the contradictions. Whether or not you agree that CAL is wholly unreliable is neither here nor there. Her own contradictory claims demonstrate this.
On point Gringo
I love the way you go into detail to explain
Much appreciated
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Well what do you mean no smoke without fire?
used for saying that if something bad is being said about someone, or if something seems bad, then there is probably a good reason for it
Why does it always have to be something bad in your eyes ? Why does it always have to be a crime just because it involves JB ? What exactly are you trying to say ?
No smoke without fire can mean anything.
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Why does it always have to be something bad in your eyes ? Why does it always have to be a crime just because it involves JB ? What exactly are you trying to say ?
No smoke without fire can mean anything.
Oh right, I didn’t know that 👍
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Oh right, I didn’t know that 👍
If there are kisses at the bottom of the letter then voice your objections,. simple as that. Strangers don't include kisses , or shouldn't do, in correspondence.
But don't go crying " pervert " if you don't do/ say something about it.
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So you have no idea and cannot explain the contradictions in CAL's accounts?
If you had understood Chomsky, then you would need to explain to yourself, not the likes of me, how it is that two contradictory statements can both be true. They can't, obviously. If you truly had any grasp of linguistics then you would need to clarify this. Whatever your opinion on the likes of me ::), there are contradictions that need explaining. You ask no questions and have no explanation.
This is an intellectually dishonest position that any student of Chomsky and language/linguistics would pick apart. It shows a looseness with language that immediately raises questions or should. Why such vague generalisations instead of accurate numbers? There is no reason other than the shaping of a narrative. Deceptive and unclear/ambiguous language is an obvious tell to anyone with any understanding of the techniques employed.
You can't, and don't attempt to explain the contradictions. Whether or not you agree that CAL is wholly unreliable is neither here nor there. Her own contradictory claims demonstrate this.
I think she knows the only explanation for this (like everyone else) but is not going to publicly acknowledge it. Best pretend there is an alternative answer and give excuses for not explaining it.
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If there are kisses at the bottom of the letter then voice your objections,. simple as that. Strangers don't include kisses , or shouldn't do, in correspondence.
But don't go crying " pervert " if you don't do/ say something about it.
Oh but there are kisses at the bottom 👍
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So you have no idea and cannot explain the contradictions in CAL's accounts?
If you had understood Chomsky, then you would need to explain to yourself, not the likes of me, how it is that two contradictory statements can both be true. They can't, obviously. If you truly had any grasp of linguistics then you would need to clarify this. Whatever your opinion on the likes of me ::), there are contradictions that need explaining. You ask no questions and have no explanation.
This is an intellectually dishonest position that any student of Chomsky and language/linguistics would pick apart. It shows a looseness with language that immediately raises questions or should. Why such vague generalisations instead of accurate numbers? There is no reason other than the shaping of a narrative. Deceptive and unclear/ambiguous language is an obvious tell to anyone with any understanding of the techniques employed.
You can't, and don't attempt to explain the contradictions. Whether or not you agree that CAL is wholly unreliable is neither here nor there. Her own contradictory claims demonstrate this.
I very much doubt Chomsky would be proud that his name had been used to hound and denigrate. I think he'd be ashamed of someone like you and anyone that would support you.
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I think she knows the only explanation for this (like everyone else) but is not going to publicly acknowledge it. Best pretend there is an alternative answer and give excuses for not explaining it.
Another one applying the Emperor's new clothes approach - change the record David you're boring and predictable and NO! I believe CAL - simple! When you're able to produce an argument that you haven't stolen from someone else - you might finally grow up - DUDE! ( ::))
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Oh but there are kisses at the bottom 👍
Well there you are----so no objection was raised then. Why the fuss and palava ?
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Another one applying the Emperor's new clothes approach - change the record David you're boring and predictable and NO! I believe CAL - simple! When you're able to produce an argument that you haven't stolen from someone else - you might finally grow up - DUDE! ( ::))
Do you believe CAL when she said "dozens" or do you believe CAL when she said "hundreds"?
PS: hope you have a fire extinguisher handy. Your projector is seriously overheating dudette.
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Another one applying the Emperor's new clothes approach - change the record David you're boring and predictable and NO! I believe CAL - simple! When you're able to produce an argument that you haven't stolen from someone else - you might finally grow up - DUDE! ( ::))
It has been well established that CAL is happy to endorse lies to sell books
There are no such letters and you will never be able to supply ‘twisted’ letters from JB
He was obviously not the slightest bit bothered by you changing your stance by calling you naughty
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Do you believe CAL when she said "dozens" or do you believe CAL when she said "hundreds"?
PS: hope you have a fire extinguisher handy. Your projector is seriously overheating dudette.
your full of shit ,wheres the breakthrough evidence plonker :)) :)) :))
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It has been well established that CAL is happy to endorse lies to sell books
There are no such letters and you will never be able to supply ‘twisted’ letters from JB
He was obviously not the slightest bit bothered by you changing your stance by calling you naughty
no he may not be .but you for some reason are obsessed stupid woman :)) :))
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Do you believe CAL when she said "dozens" or do you believe CAL when she said "hundreds"?
PS: hope you have a fire extinguisher handy. Your projector is seriously overheating dudette.
Hundreds is dozens! There's another stolen theme - got the old 'projection' theme from Steph - DUDE!
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It has been well established that CAL is happy to endorse lies to sell books
There are no such letters and you will never be able to supply ‘twisted’ letters from JB
He was obviously not the slightest bit bothered by you changing your stance by calling you naughty
Oh he was bothered, wrote to me out of the blue after I had stopped writing. Apparently, that's quite unusual for him.
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Oh he was bothered, wrote to me out of the blue after I had stopped writing. Apparently, that's quite unusual for him.
Not bothered enough to put you on his phone list though. eh
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Let’s see if we can get the truth straight from the horses mouth
If she doesn’t answer we can use Caroline’s mantra
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Not bothered enough to put you on his phone list though. eh
I would NEVER have given him my phone number. Unlike you, I wasn't interested in him personally. You wear that like a badge, how sad that all you have to brag about is chatting to a mass killer on the phone.
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I would NEVER have given him my phone number. Unlike you, I wasn't interested in him personally. You wear that like a badge, how sad that all you have to brag about is chatting to a mass killer on the phone.
sick :)) :)) :))
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I would NEVER have given him my phone number. Unlike you, I wasn't interested in him personally. You wear that like a badge, how sad that all you have to brag about is chatting to a mass killer on the phone.
No you gave the ‘mass murderer’ your address ;)
Jeremy wanted me on his phone list for one reason because I was speaking to Solicitors, barristers and documentary makers for him
Making myself useful and not sitting for hours on forums
Got it !!!!!!!
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sick :)) :)) :))
Oh dear :)
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No you gave the ‘mass murderer’ your address ;)
Jeremy wanted me on his phone list for one reason because I was speaking to Solicitors, barristers and documentary makers for him
Making myself useful and not sitting for hours on forums
Got it !!!!!!!
where did making yourself useful get you or get bamber :)) :))
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where did making yourself useful get you or get bamber :)) :))
He dropped her like a sack - she’s not on his phone list now, more like his sh*t list ;D
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I would NEVER have given him my phone number. Unlike you, I wasn't interested in him personally. You wear that like a badge, how sad that all you have to brag about is chatting to a mass killer on the phone.
but having your address would have been more dangerous caroline or isn't that what you meant.
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He dropped her like a sack - she’s not on his phone list now, more like his sh*t list ;D
iam not surprised shes a major liability :)) :))
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You literally have no idea most of you on here what prison does to you
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but having your address would have been more dangerous caroline or isn't that what you meant.
could be dangerous notsure,but one would have to believe religiously that jb might be freed one day
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I would be really interested to know what it was like for you ilovebooze, I know I don't know how I would survive it and I think it must be even worse having to survive it when being innocent. I know you said you did your crime (if im remembering correctly) but what was it like for you and how has it affected you.
I have seen on the new lately about Bedford prison and the drugs and watched the Mitchell brother cant remember his name on Belmarsh. looks absolutely horrific.
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You literally have no idea most of you on here what prison does to you
If you didn't commit a crime you'd never find out what it was like would you ? How about the victims some of who feel like prisoners in their own homes who are scared to go out ?
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He dropped her like a sack - she’s not on his phone list now, more like his sh*t list ;D
You have no idea. I suggest you ask him before making more ridiculous statement
Aren’t you embarrassed by your behaviour. Even your support is embarrassing now because of her desperate
Measures to sell a book
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If you didn't commit a crime you'd never find out what it was like would you ? How about the victims some of who feel like prisoners in their own homes who are scared to go out ?
good point lookout.even though ive lived a life of crime .theres an old saying if you cant do the time dont do the crime.mostly used by prison officers when a prisoner complains about something.i can say that ive never harmed an ordinary member of the public ive never stole,robbed,or cheated.the people that got their dues were other villains.
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but having your address would have been more dangerous caroline or isn't that what you meant.
Exactly
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You literally have no idea most of you on here what prison does to you
How many times did you meet Jeremy
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How many times did you meet Jeremy
everyday for approx 17, 18 months. We were on the same wing at lartin.
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If you didn't commit a crime you'd never find out what it was like would you ? How about the victims some of who feel like prisoners in their own homes who are scared to go out ?
you miss the point. I did the crime I did the time. I'm talking in regards to how someone might react after spending years in confinement such as bamber
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You have no idea. I suggest you ask him before making more ridiculous statement
Aren’t you embarrassed by your behaviour. Even your support is embarrassing now because of her desperate
Measures to sell a book
I don’t keep contact but I have no interest in you - I don’t care what you did or didn’t do with Bamber.
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you miss the point. I did the crime I did the time. I'm talking in regards to how someone might react after spending years in confinement such as bamber
He'll probably suffer from PTSD for years to come and will find life very difficult to cope with on the outside.
It's not as though he even has a family to support him either.
Apparently he's in a wing for the vulnerable where he is in Wakefield in case of attacks------in light of the ITV drama I can only suspect.
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He'll probably suffer from PTSD for years to come and will find life very difficult to cope with on the outside.
It's not as though he even has a family to support him either.
Apparently he's in a wing for the vulnerable where he is in Wakefield in case of attacks------in light of the ITV drama I can only suspect.
yes lookout the best thing for him is to stay where he is.i didnt know there was a wing for the vulnerable ,years ago it was the punishment block
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The way society has gone since he was imprisoned he'd be better/safer staying locked up.
He's 60 next year and to be old in this country is like living a death sentence anyway especially to those who have mental health problems. He'd get better looked after in prison.
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The way society has gone since he was imprisoned he'd be better/safer staying locked up.
He's 60 next year and to be old in this country is like living a death sentence anyway especially to those who have mental health problems. He'd get better looked after in prison.
to be honest lookout youre right the tv show will make him a target and also if he does ever get released it may be worse cause theres a lot more people on the outside than in prison that may want to seriously hurt him.only way out would be to go abroad
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Ngb can you let me know why real justice’s disgusting post only just been removed when it was up all night, he needs to exercise some personal control when he frequents forums
Real Justice is here to cause trouble and turn posts into sexual innuendos
Hasn’t he heard of the me to movement
Oh c'mon Jackie. Get real and for once in your life, tell the truth. YOU LOVE IT! How did you respond when I accused you of insinuating a closeness between you an NGB? Can't remember? Okay, I'll remind you -and the forum- shall I? You put up a wink!!! Nothing more. I'm fairly certain that most of those who saw it knew exactly what it was that you were suggesting by it. So let's have no more suggestions that others turn posts into sexual innuendo...............and I can't imagine that the "Me, too" movement is something you get to exercised about.
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everyday for approx 17, 18 months. We were on the same wing at lartin.
Was he classed as a vulnerable prisoner
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I don’t keep contact but I have no interest in you - I don’t care what you did or didn’t do with Bamber.
Well don’t make stupid comments like he dumped me because you have absolutely no idea. So don’t keep showing yourself up on the forum.
It’s getting boring
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Was he classed as a vulnerable prisoner
just run of the mill. If I recall correctly
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Why does it always have to be something bad in your eyes ? Why does it always have to be a crime just because it involves JB ? What exactly are you trying to say ?
No smoke without fire can mean anything.
It can, Lookout. But it generally isn't pleasant. ie a man is seen coming out of a woman's house late at night. The woman is not his wife. Never mind that he'd been fixing the electrics. Because of the hour ir will be said that there's no smoke without fire. In EXACTLY the same way, poor little Sheila was accused of killing her parents and taking the lives of her children, ALL because it could be said that she mentally ill and had been in a psych hospital. Another example of there being said to be no smoke without fire.
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I'm going slightly off topic here. If you look at Jeremy's blogs have you ever noticed how he sounds overly postive all of the time. Quotes such as " I am soon to be free" and have you ever noticed he has said the same dialogue since the ccrc review back in 2011??
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From my own perspective of being a long time ex prisoner, that's the voice of man subjected to confinement. What's minor to a free person is a massive victory to someone who has had their freedom taken off them. Put the guilt or innocence equation out of the picture for the moment.
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Oh c'mon Jackie. Get real and for once in your life, tell the truth. YOU LOVE IT! How did you respond when I accused you of insinuating a closeness between you an NGB? Can't remember? Okay, I'll remind you -and the forum- shall I? You put up a wink!!! Nothing more. I'm fairly certain that most of those who saw it knew exactly what it was that you were suggesting by it. So let's have no more suggestions that others turn posts into sexual innuendo...............and I can't imagine that the "Me, too" movement is something you get to exercised about.
You tell me ???
I have never even met Ngb and in case you didn’t know. I have lots of male friends but they don’t feel the need to make smutty innuendos and you still haven’t responded to everything you accused me of. Let everyone know the truth or supply the relevant posts you are referring to
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just run of the mill. If I recall correctly
That’s what I knew but certain people are suggesting otherwise
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That’s what I knew but certain people are suggesting otherwise
to be fair, it was 93 to 95. I can't comment 20 odd years on to what Jeremy's situation is now
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From my own perspective of being a long time ex prisoner, that's the voice of man subjected to confinement. What's minor to a free person is a massive victory to someone who has had their freedom taken off them. Put the guilt or innocence equation out of the picture for the moment.
Liked JB or hated him or somewhere inbetween
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sick :)) :)) :))
Desperate?
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Liked JB or hated him or somewhere inbetween
I didn't hate him.
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No you gave the ‘mass murderer’ your address ;)
Jeremy wanted me on his phone list for one reason because I was speaking to Solicitors, barristers and documentary makers for him
Making myself useful and not sitting for hours on forums
Got it !!!!!!!
And the evidence of all this alleged work on his behalf is where, exactly? Other than making a profound nuisance of yourself by trolling and hounding innocent people, you don't appear to have made any significant difference to Jeremy's life. So much so that he dumped you.
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A former inmate and now an advocate for prisoners told the Express that certain prisoners are treated as VP's, vulnerable prisoners and are held on a protection wing. They tend to be high-profile such as sex-offenders, child killers, former police officers, former prison guards and those who've testified against others. This is because they're likely to get attacked if placed with the general prison population.
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Strange how a lot of ex-prisoners are working within the prison system with damn good jobs/ high pay and even degrees.
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Well don’t make stupid comments like he dumped me because you have absolutely no idea. So don’t keep showing yourself up on the forum.
It’s getting boring
And you think you're not? HA!!!
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A former inmate and now an advocate for prisoners told the Express that certain prisoners are treated as VP's, vulnerable prisoners and are held on a protection wing. They tend to be high-profile such as sex-offenders, child killers, former police officers, former prison guards and those who've testified against others. This is because they're likely to get attacked if placed with the general prison population.
yes they are so hated that they are not even safe down the block.thats how evil child killer leslie bailey got killed,he strangled an 8yr old called barry lewis so two other prisoners made him experience the same feeling by strangling him
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And the evidence of all this alleged work on his behalf is where, exactly? Other than making a profound nuisance of yourself by trolling and hounding innocent people, you don't appear to have made any significant difference to Jeremy's life. So much so that he dumped you.
Go on Jane start the trolling. I suggest you get the truth from Ngb before you look stupid Again
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Go on Jane start the trolling. I suggest you get the truth from Ngb before you look stupid Again
Too late Jackie. That's your department.
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Too late Jackie. That's your department.
You have been warned
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You have been warned
Who do you think you are? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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You have been warned
is that a threat :)) :)) :)) :))
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Well don’t make stupid comments like he dumped me because you have absolutely no idea. So don’t keep showing yourself up on the forum.
It’s getting boring
He did dump you and rightly so no doubt. I have seen your posts on here crying about it.
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Who do you think you are? ;D ;D ;D ;D
You and your mates are well aware of the laws regarding false accusations and trolling
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He did dump you and rightly so no doubt. I have seen your posts on here crying about it.
You couldn’t be further from the truth. I tell you what write a letter to Jeremy ask him that question and then post his answer on the open forum and then you can stupid to everyone
Write to him tomorrow or one of your gang
Keep up to date
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You couldn’t be further from the truth. I tell you what write a letter to Jeremy ask him that question and then post his answer on the open forum and then you can stupid to everyone
Write to him tomorrow or one of your gang
Keep up to date
You write to him! I'm not interested in YOU - you must be delusional if you think I would write to Bamber again but even more if you think I would ask about you ;D ;D ;D
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You couldn’t be further from the truth. I tell you what write a letter to Jeremy ask him that question and then post his answer on the open forum and then you can stupid to everyone
Write to him tomorrow or one of your gang
Keep up to date
no pro guilters would write to a child killer.we leave that to you and your gang
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You have been warned
Tut tut! Is that a threat, Jackie? I believe the issuing of threats is something which is not looked kindly on. However, you're quite wrong. I HAVEN'T been warned, unlike yourself who undoubtedly WILL have been. Bans are rarely imposed without the miscreant having been given prior notice.
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You write to him! I'm not interested in YOU - you must be delusional if you think I would write to Bamber again but even more if you think I would ask about you ;D ;D ;D
Don’t quote something you know nothing about. You once wrote to JB as have thousands of others, he never shared any sensitive information with you.
Ask Ngb if you want the truth but really it’s absolutely nothing to do with you.
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Tut tut! Is that a threat, Jackie? I believe the issuing of threats is something which is not looked kindly on. However, you're quite wrong. I HAVEN'T been warned, unlike yourself who undoubtedly WILL have been. Bans are rarely imposed without the miscreant having been given prior notice.
That’s right and anymore false accusations I will get you banned
You are lucky you have not been arrested for your trolling behaviour
You make accusations which you can’t back up. You are a liar
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Tut tut! Is that a threat, Jackie? I believe the issuing of threats is something which is not looked kindly on. However, you're quite wrong. I HAVEN'T been warned, unlike yourself who undoubtedly WILL have been. Bans are rarely imposed without the miscreant having been given prior notice.
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying ...
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Tut tut! Is that a threat, Jackie? I believe the issuing of threats is something which is not looked kindly on. However, you're quite wrong. I HAVEN'T been warned, unlike yourself who undoubtedly WILL have been. Bans are rarely imposed without the miscreant having been given prior notice.
Trolls will make deliberately cruel, racist, homophobic and sexist comments - or even tell people to kill themselves - then sit back to enjoy the outraged responses.
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Tut tut! Is that a threat, Jackie? I believe the issuing of threats is something which is not looked kindly on. However, you're quite wrong. I HAVEN'T been warned, unlike yourself who undoubtedly WILL have been. Bans are rarely imposed without the miscreant having been given prior notice.
In October 2016, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) introduced new laws that could see those who create “derogatory hashtags” or post “humiliating” Photoshopped images JAILED.
Inciting people to harass others online, known as virtual mobbing, is among the offences included in the guidance.
Baiting – when someone is humiliated online by being branded sexually promiscuous – is also mentioned in the guidance.
The CPS also announced the launch of a hate crime consultation, issuing a series of public policy statements centred on combating crimes against disabled people, as well as racial, religious, homophobic and transphobic hate crime.
Director of Public Prosecutions Alison Saunders said: “Social media can be used to educate, entertain and enlighten, but there are also people who use it to bully, intimidate and harass.
“Ignorance is not a defence and perceived anonymity is not an escape. Those who commit these acts, or encourage others to do the same, can and will be prosecuted.”
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In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying ...
Clearly you know such a person well. You're describing who it is you see in your mirror.
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Trolls will make deliberately cruel, racist, homophobic and sexist comments - or even tell people to kill themselves - then sit back to enjoy the outraged responses.
Oh dear me! How you love talking about yourself. Your last post was all about you, too.
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Oh dear me! How you love talking about yourself. Your last post was all about you, too.
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In October 2016, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) introduced new laws that could see those who create “derogatory hashtags” or post “humiliating” Photoshopped images JAILED.
Inciting people to harass others online, known as virtual mobbing, is among the offences included in the guidance.
Baiting – when someone is humiliated online by being branded sexually promiscuous – is also mentioned in the guidance.
The CPS also announced the launch of a hate crime consultation, issuing a series of public policy statements centred on combating crimes against disabled people, as well as racial, religious, homophobic and transphobic hate crime.
Director of Public Prosecutions Alison Saunders said: “Social media can be used to educate, entertain and enlighten, but there are also people who use it to bully, intimidate and harass.
“Ignorance is not a defence and perceived anonymity is not an escape. Those who commit these acts, or encourage others to do the same, can and will be prosecuted.”
I guess you know all of this because you've been banned for doing much of what's described.
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I guess you know all of this because you've been banned for doing much of what's described.
You have been warned, I have screenshot every single one of your posts
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You have been warned, I have screenshot every single one of your posts
But you realize, don't you, that in order to make head or tail of the contents, and to see what it is I've found it necessary to respond to, they'll need to be accompanied by everything you've posted to me.
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But you realize, don't you, that in order to make head or tail of the contents, and to see what it is I've found it necessary to respond to, they'll need to be accompanied by everything you've posted to me.
Perfect and alongside other posters complaints regarding your behavior towards me
Your behaviour and the way you address other posters because they won't agree with you is totally
unacceptable
As you can see you are breaking the law and you still haven't retracted the lies you posted about me
You've had your chance
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Perfect and alongside other posters complaints regarding your behavior towards me
Your behaviour and the way you address other posters because they won't agree with you is totally
unacceptable
As you can see you are breaking the law and you still haven't retracted the lies you posted about me
You've had your chance
Interesting Jackie. The only other supporter I interact with on a regular basis is Lookout, and unless you can provide proof of her complaints against me, I'm willing to bet there aren't any. If Lookout has anything to say to me she'll say it to my face, NOT behind my back. You seem to have a very mixed up view of who I am. As I've told you frequently, the only reason I respond to you is when you attack me, which you do frequently. If you don't like what I say, put me on ignore, just as I'm doing to you.
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Interesting Jackie. The only other supporter I interact with on a regular basis is Lookout, and unless you can provide proof of her complaints against me, I'm willing to bet there aren't any. If Lookout has anything to say to me she'll say it to my face, NOT behind my back. You seem to have a very mixed up view of who I am. As I've told you frequently, the only reason I respond to you is when you attack me, which you do frequently. If you don't like what I say, put me on ignore, just as I'm doing to you.
That's good putting me on ignore so I Dont have to put up with your aggressive behavior anymore
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Back to the thread .
If you are researching a book and write to a convicted murderer for information , how can you complain when the person sends you information that you have requested ? I am more worried by the claim that EP allegedly showed her pictures of the twins ? Surely that is not acceptable ? Personally I am thinking that was very risky , what if that picture had fallen into the wrong hands ? And if it proves his guilt then that could have been shown to the judges and no appeals would have been entertained ? End of .
Btw can I just say one thing , I do think the personal insults and inferences about anyone who writes to Jeremy is out of order . If someone writes to him (talking in general here not about anyone in particular) it is because they believe there has been a miscarriage of justice , and even those who have changed their minds must agree with this. No one would write to someone they thought was guilty . So ok you might think they are wrong but to tar every person with some perverted brush , or even imply it’s because they fancy him , is pretty shortsighted in my opinion. And yes these people may be wrong , or change their minds, or just be genuinely interested in trying to get to the truth. But to insult them with the comments made on here is very below the belt . Imo
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Back to the thread .
If you are researching a book and write to a convicted murderer for information , how can you complain when the person sends you information that you have requested ? I am more worried by the claim that EP allegedly showed her pictures of the twins ? Surely that is not acceptable ? Personally I am thinking that was very risky , what if that picture had fallen into the wrong hands ? And if it proves his guilt then that could have been shown to the judges and no appeals would have been entertained ? End of .
Btw can I just say one thing , I do think the personal insults and inferences about anyone who writes to Jeremy is out of order . If someone writes to him (talking in general here not about anyone in particular) it is because they believe there has been a miscarriage of justice , and even those who have changed their minds must agree with this. No one would write to someone they thought was guilty . So ok you might think they are wrong but to tar every person with some perverted brush , or even imply it’s because they fancy him , is pretty shortsighted in my opinion. And yes these people may be wrong , or change their minds, or just be genuinely interested in trying to get to the truth. But to insult them with the comments made on here is very below the belt . Imo
The pictures CAL is talking about were shown in court. They don't prove what is claimed. As far as I know she never mentioned this photo in her book (correct me if I am wrong).
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Back to the thread .
If you are researching a book and write to a convicted murderer for information , how can you complain when the person sends you information that you have requested ? I am more worried by the claim that EP allegedly showed her pictures of the twins ? Surely that is not acceptable ? Personally I am thinking that was very risky , what if that picture had fallen into the wrong hands ? And if it proves his guilt then that could have been shown to the judges and no appeals would have been entertained ? End of .
Btw can I just say one thing , I do think the personal insults and inferences about anyone who writes to Jeremy is out of order . If someone writes to him (talking in general here not about anyone in particular) it is because they believe there has been a miscarriage of justice , and even those who have changed their minds must agree with this. No one would write to someone they thought was guilty . So ok you might think they are wrong but to tar every person with some perverted brush , or even imply it’s because they fancy him , is pretty shortsighted in my opinion. And yes these people may be wrong , or change their minds, or just be genuinely interested in trying to get to the truth. But to insult them with the comments made on here is very below the belt . Imo
I hardly think that anything controversial would be sent through the post. I feel certain they wouldn't have left the place where they reside. Even though she was given permission to see them, chances of her being left alone with them are probably remote. She may even have had to hand over her phone to ensure pictures weren't taken.
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Back to the thread .
If you are researching a book and write to a convicted murderer for information , how can you complain when the person sends you information that you have requested ? I am more worried by the claim that EP allegedly showed her pictures of the twins ? Surely that is not acceptable ? Personally I am thinking that was very risky , what if that picture had fallen into the wrong hands ? And if it proves his guilt then that could have been shown to the judges and no appeals would have been entertained ? End of .
Btw can I just say one thing , I do think the personal insults and inferences about anyone who writes to Jeremy is out of order . If someone writes to him (talking in general here not about anyone in particular) it is because they believe there has been a miscarriage of justice , and even those who have changed their minds must agree with this. No one would write to someone they thought was guilty . So ok you might think they are wrong but to tar every person with some perverted brush , or even imply it’s because they fancy him , is pretty shortsighted in my opinion. And yes these people may be wrong , or change their minds, or just be genuinely interested in trying to get to the truth. But to insult them with the comments made on here is very below the belt . Imo
She hasn't complained
She was allows to view the pictures - they didn't send them to her.
She said it proved guilt to HER!
You don't have to think he's innocent to write to him, she made it clear she was writing a book - he didn't have to write back.
I agree with your comments Re: writing to Bamber BUT yhe insults towards CAL have been disgusting and vile. She's an author and wrote a book, that's what authors do. If you're going to insult CAL then same should be levelled at Scott Lomax. Can't have it both ways!
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Scott Lomax continues corresponding with Jeremy, does CAL ??
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Scott Lomax continues corresponding with Jeremy, does CAL ??
scotti unlike bob w has not seen the light yet,bob was a one time champion of jb,s cause
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She hasn't complained
She was allows to view the pictures - they didn't send them to her.
She said it proved guilt to HER!
You don't have to think he's innocent to write to him, she made it clear she was writing a book - he didn't have to write back.
I agree with your comments Re: writing to Bamber BUT yhe insults towards CAL have been disgusting and vile. She's an author and wrote a book, that's what authors do. If you're going to insult CAL then same should be levelled at Scott Lomax. Can't have it both ways!
What comments about CAL have been vile
She is happy for a national newspaper to print lies about JB stating the lies came from her
That is dispicable behaviour
All to make money
The FACTS
She will never be able to provide said letters as they don’t exist
She is a coward because she won’t address the lies
I hope someone buys the book and sues her for being dishonest
She must be desperate for cash
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scotti unlike bob w has not seen the light yet,bob was a one time champion of jb,s cause
The wet-suit and bicycle put me off BW's way of thinking.
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The wet-suit and bicycle put me off BW's way of thinking.
yes but theres no proof he wasnt right and vice versa
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yes but theres no proof he wasnt right and vice versa
There was never proof that he was right either.
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There was never proof that he was right either.
It doesn't matter. Jeremy wasn't convicted on a wet suit.
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It doesn't matter. Jeremy wasn't convicted on a wet suit.
Where ? When ? Blimey have you all been on the wacky baccy ? :o :o
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There was never proof that he was right either.
yes but you must admit he did consider both sides of the argument thats how he reached his conclusion
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yes but you must admit he did consider both sides of the argument thats how he reached his conclusion
Because he believed RWB, that other silly old man ?
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Where ? When ? Blimey have you all been on the wacky baccy ? :o :o
NO! Why? Last I heard, it was a combo of Julie and a silencer which convicted him.
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NO! Why? Last I heard, it was a combo of Julie and a silencer which convicted him.
According to Sami, he believes that the bicycle and wet-suit played a part just because BW said so ::)
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According to Sami, he believes that the bicycle and wet-suit played a part just because BW said so ::)
And Sami is perfectly entitled to think so.
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According to Sami, he believes that the bicycle and wet-suit played a part just because BW said so ::)
have you got a shred of evidence that they werent used
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And Sami is perfectly entitled to think so.
The same as I'm also entitled to have my say too.
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The same as I'm also entitled to have my say too.
its always eagerly anticipated your opinion that is
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I'm going slightly off topic here. If you look at Jeremy's blogs have you ever noticed how he sounds overly postive all of the time. Quotes such as " I am soon to be free" and have you ever noticed he has said the same dialogue since the ccrc review back in 2011??
From my own perspective of being a long time ex prisoner, that's the voice of man subjected to confinement. What's minor to a free person is a massive victory to someone who has had their freedom taken off them. Put the guilt or innocence equation out of the picture for the moment.
I think these are really good posts.
It's a shame CAL didn't have your insight, as she may have interpreted some of Jeremy's letters differently.
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I think these are really good posts.
It's a shame CAL didn't have your insight, as she may have interpreted some of Jeremy's letters differently.
Very sad
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More CAL’s Lies
The Jeremy Bamber crime scene photo that one woman will never forget
She wrote regular letters
White House Farm at Tolleshunt d'Arcy Essex
Carol Ann Lee was 16 during the summer of 1985 when five members of the same family were shot dead in a farm in Essex
Little did this girl know that one day she would be exchanging regular letters with their killer, Jeremy Bamber, the man convicted of murdering his own family to get his hands on his inheritance.
Carol, an author and autobiographer, decided she wanted to find out more after seeing a documentary about the notorious White House Farm murders.
She started work on her book in 2012 and even wrote to Bamber himself, who is serving a whole-life sentence and to this day protests his innocence
From the photos she’ll never forget, to the 'charming' letters she received from Bamber, here are the shocking things she learnt while investigating White House Farm murders.
Carol and Bamber exchanged regular letters in her time working on the book.
She said: "He comes across as very charming, but manipulative.
"He is very much in control of the information he wants to discuss."
The author claimed Bamber would not reply to questions about certain subjects, particularly his adoptive sister Sheila's personal life, who was initially blamed for the case in a murder-suicide theory.
"What once was very frequent contact started to slow down," she said.
"He wanted to be able to tell his story of innocence, and convince the world that he did not kill his family."
Carol said that she always tried to keep an open mind on Bamber's guilt, but found his behaviour was hard to ignore.
She said: "He could be very personable, and would ask how I was, but he was very aware of his life.
"He offered to proof read my book, and point out any mistakes that I had made
"I told him that that wasn't going to work."
Carol claims to have seen photos that very few people have laid eyes on, and there is one she will never forget.
After seeing the tragic and horrific bloodbath that police were met with when they first discovered the bodies, she explained:
"One picture that I saw said to me that the person who did it was very good with a gun.
"This person was not at all shaky and knew how and where to shoot.
"This case got to me like nothing else has.
"I cannot get the pictures of the crime scene out of my head."
Carol has spoken with Bamber,
friends and the family of the victims and police officers who dealt with the case.
She explained: "You have to get so involved with the stories that you end up dreaming about them.
"I have so many dreams about White House Farm.”
In Carol’s personal opinion, she is 100 per cent sure that Bamber was the one to kill his family, and said she will be the "first to apologise" if he is ever acquitted.
She explained: "He will never stop appealing because he has nothing to lose.
"If he admits to his crimes, he might get parole but he will come out as a child killer.”
Carol's book, The Murders at White House Farm: Jeremy Bamber and the killing of his family.
The definitive investigation was first published in 2015.
She was approached by production company New Pictures who said they were going to be creating a TV drama about the crime.
She was asked to be a consultant for the production, and gave them a huge amount of her research to make the series.
Carol said: "It was very strange to see the actors as the characters.
She also got to be an extra in a courtroom scene.
The fictional version of Bamber's trial in the TV drama was filmed at Chelmsford Court Court, in the very next room to where the actual trial happened.
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The author claimed Bamber would not reply to questions about certain subjects, particularly his adoptive sister Sheila's personal life, who was initially blamed for the case in a murder-suicide theory.
Why wouldn't he avoid questions about his sister's personal life? He probably knew it would all go in a book, or be published in the press.
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JB wasn't obliged to say anything that he didn't want to say. As it is, according to her book it looks as though she's put her own twist on what he told her anyway.
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Jeremy has NEVER spoken to CAL
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It’s an absolute disgrace.
She needs to come up with some answers
We will start with where are the twisted letters
Next we will ask her what day she actually spoke to Jeremy
Caroline is in contact with her so she should be able to fill us in
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Where Gringo?
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I didn't know Sheila had made 2 attempts at taking her life ?
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I am still not sure where I stand on CAL.
I used to think it was either sloppy research or a lack of critical thinking that led her to her conclusions. But the one sided nature of the book, the supple distortions of the evidence in the book. Plus the discrepancies over the letters. Has me thinking there could be a malicious element to it also. But if she "feels" the man is guilty of five murders. She wont really think she is doing anything wrong. :-\
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"If he admits to his crimes, he might get parole but he will come out as a child killer.”
That’s not true though is it ? It was in the past , but I thought now if if he said he was guilty he still won’t get parole ?
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"If he admits to his crimes, he might get parole but he will come out as a child killer.”
That’s not true though is it ? It was in the past , but I thought now if if he said he was guilty he still won’t get parole ?
I think you right Jan. Ngb could confirm
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"If he admits to his crimes, he might get parole but he will come out as a child killer.”
That’s not true though is it ? It was in the past , but I thought now if if he said he was guilty he still won’t get parole ?
Life without the possibility of parole. The clue is literally in the sentence.
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It’s an absolute disgrace.
She needs to come up with some answers
We will start with where are the twisted letters
Next we will ask her what day she actually spoke to Jeremy
Caroline is in contact with her so she should be able to fill us in
I am still not sure where I stand on CAL.
I used to think it was either sloppy research or a lack of critical thinking that led her to her conclusions. But the one sided nature of the book, the supple distortions of the evidence in the book. Plus the discrepancies over the letters. Has me thinking there could be a malicious element to it also. But if she "feels" the man is guilty of five murders. She wont really think she is doing anything wrong. :-\
It is pretty self evident that CAL's intent all along was to write the book she did. It was never an impartial investigation to find the truth and David is being way too kind in calling the distortions of the evidence, subtle. They are anything but subtle and along with the inconsistent and untrue claims since then, it should be clear to everyone that CAL was acting in bad faith all along.
There are insights into her character for those who care to look. Her attempted sleights against JB reveal much of her own character.
Jackie helpfully highlighted one of the most revealing, "The author claimed Bamber would not reply to questions about certain subjects, particularly his adoptive sister's Sheila's personal life..."
Is CAL aware that the obvious inferences to make here are:
1) Amongst other unstated subjects, CAL was asking questions about Sheila's personal life.
2) Most reasonable people think it reflects poorly on CAL rather than Jeremy that he wouldn't answer questions about Sheila's personal life.
3) Most reasonable and literate people also realise the low level manipulation that CAL is attempting here. Who for one moment believes that had Jeremy answered the unstated personal questions that CAL
asked about Sheila, then CAL would instead be claiming that Bamber had attempted to smear Sheila. She is comically transparent and I find it difficult to believe that someone so obviously insincere is given an iota of credibility.
Given her vague and ambiguous claims, CAL should be lent credibility when, and only when she adds the relevant details to her claims.
1) What specific questions about Sheila's personal life were you asking?
2) For what reason were you asking?
3) What are the other subjects that you felt the need to ask about that Jeremy refuses to discuss?
4) Can you list all the questions that JB refused to answer/discuss?
When we know these details then we would be able to make a fully informed judgement as to whether JB was being somehow evasive/secretive or perhaps CAL's questions revealed her hand as the murder porn writer that she is.
The lack of detail, as is usual with CAL, means we can make a pretty well educated guess.
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It is pretty self evident that CAL's intent all along was to write the book she did. It was never an impartial investigation to find the truth and David is being way too kind in calling the distortions of the evidence, subtle. They are anything but subtle and along with the inconsistent and untrue claims since then, it should be clear to everyone that CAL was acting in bad faith all along.
There are insights into her character for those who care to look. Her attempted sleights against JB reveal much of her own character.
Jackie helpfully highlighted one of the most revealing, "The author claimed Bamber would not reply to questions about certain subjects, particularly his adoptive sister's Sheila's personal life..."
Is CAL aware that the obvious inferences to make here are:
1) Amongst other unstated subjects, CAL was asking questions about Sheila's personal life.
2) Most reasonable people think it reflects poorly on CAL rather than Jeremy that he wouldn't answer questions about Sheila's personal life.
3) Most reasonable and literate people also realise the low level manipulation that CAL is attempting here. Who for one moment believes that had Jeremy answered the unstated personal questions that CAL
asked about Sheila, then CAL would instead be claiming that Bamber had attempted to smear Sheila. She is comically transparent and I find it difficult to believe that someone so obviously insincere is given an iota of credibility.
Given her vague and ambiguous claims, CAL should be lent credibility when, and only when she adds the relevant details to her claims.
1) What specific questions about Sheila's personal life were you asking?
2) For what reason were you asking?
3) What are the other subjects that you felt the need to ask about that Jeremy refuses to discuss?
4) Can you list all the questions that JB refused to answer/discuss?
When we know these details then we would be able to make a fully informed judgement as to whether JB was being somehow evasive/secretive or perhaps CAL's questions revealed her hand as the murder porn writer that she is.
The lack of detail, as is usual with CAL, means we can make a pretty well educated guess.
I would say the distortions are subtle. That's to say hard to notice at first glace. Or impossible for the average reader of the book to work out.
There is a lot missing from the book that 99% of consumers wont know exists in the first place.
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I would say the distortions are subtle. That's to say hard to notice at first glace. Or impossible for the average reader of the book to work out.
There is a lot missing from the book that 99% of consumers wont know exists in the first place.
Thank you for those post Gringo and David. It’s clear from interviews that Carol Anne Lee is prepared to go to any lengths to sell a book. As if it isn’t bad enough for evidence to still be witheld from Jeremy’s Solicitors they have to put up with this women putting out fake news. I hope someone sued her.
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Its been brought to my attention that CAL has laid out all these letters on the floor and taken a photo. I guess somebody has been busy with the photocopier today..... Only kidding. :)
On a serious note. There are around 130 to 140 pages of letters I can see. To the best of my visual ability I can make out that 10 of these letters are the beginning/1st page of a letter with JBs address.
It seems at least 10 CAL letters exist now.
Over to you Gringo.
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Its been brought to my attention that CAL has laid out all these letters on the floor and taken a photo. I guess somebody has been busy with the photocopier today..... Only kidding. :)
On a serious note. There are around 130 to 140 pages of letters I can see. To the best of my visual ability I can make out that 10 of these letters are the beginning/1st page of a letter with JBs address.
It seems at least 10 CAL letters exist now.
Over to you Gringo.
So the CT win the prize, as their figure is closer to 10 than CAL's.
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Its been brought to my attention that CAL has laid out all these letters on the floor and taken a photo. I guess somebody has been busy with the photocopier today..... Only kidding. :)
On a serious note. There are around 130 to 140 pages of letters I can see. To the best of my visual ability I can make out that 10 of these letters are the beginning/1st page of a letter with JBs address.
It seems at least 10 CAL letters exist now.
Over to you Gringo.
Have you got a link for the photo, David?
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Have you got a link for the photo, David?
Here
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And here
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lol
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Here
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And here
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lol
There looks to be 9 or 10 envelopes displayed and approx 140 pages or so. This is more or less as I predicted. The vague claims of dozens, a pile, hundreds would turn out to be dozens of pages, probably between 100 and 200 pages. The 5 or 6 claimed by the CT is near enough to suggest oversight rather than deliberately misleading. CAL's claims suggest deliberate dissembling rather than misunderstanding.
CAL's use of ambiguous language is intended to mislead.
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So the CT win the prize, as their figure is closer to 10 than CAL's.
;D ;D ;D
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There looks to be 9 or 10 envelopes displayed and approx 140 pages or so. This is more or less as I predicted. The vague claims of dozens, a pile, hundreds would turn out to be dozens of pages, probably between 100 and 200 pages. The 5 or 6 claimed by the CT is near enough to suggest oversight rather than deliberately misleading. CAL's claims suggest deliberate dissembling rather than misunderstanding.
CAL's use of ambiguous language is intended to mislead.
I never thought of counting the envelopes. I can see that amount also. The claims by the CT all depends on where or who they got the figure from. If its JBs recollection from 7 years ago and considering all the other mail he writes. Its not a bad guess.
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There looks to be 9 or 10 envelopes displayed and approx 140 pages or so. This is more or less as I predicted. The vague claims of dozens, a pile, hundreds would turn out to be dozens of pages, probably between 100 and 200 pages. The 5 or 6 claimed by the CT is near enough to suggest oversight rather than deliberately misleading. CAL's claims suggest deliberate dissembling rather than misunderstanding.
CAL's use of ambiguous language is intended to mislead.
Hi Gringo,
I have lots of 8 page plus letters from JB. So as Roch pointed out the CT was near enough
For her to go to those lengths she must be worried about some kind of legal action
I am still waiting to see proof of the ‘twisted letters’ or the date of any phone calls when she spoke to Jeremy
No wonder there have been so many mistakes in the drama if she advised them.
I hope her career is well and truly over Caroline
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I suspect her version of " twisted letters " are replies from JB to her requests for copies of the murder scenes as it appears that she's into that sort of thing so it's not JB who's twisted !!
You get people like that who are ready to talk about others but are like that themselves.
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I never thought of counting the envelopes. I can see that amount also. The claims by the CT all depends on where or who they got the figure from. If its JBs recollection from 7 years ago and considering all the other mail he writes. Its not a bad guess.
A reasonable point. The fact that it is 7 years since the last letter and he only has recollections to rely on, it is a good guess.
CAL didn't need to guess because she has the letters. Hundreds of letters is not just a bad guess, it is bad faith.
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I suspect her version of " twisted letters " are replies from JB to her requests for copies of the murder scenes as it appears that she's into that sort of thing so it's not JB who's twisted !!
You get people like that who are ready to talk about others but are like that themselves.
I am absolutely furious how anyone can be so deceptive
She has never replied to my questions on Instagram because obviously she can’t
I expect the next interview will be her making up more stories from when she spoke to JB on the phone.
She needs to remember any calls JB makes are recorded so straightaway she will get caught out
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I suspect her version of " twisted letters " are replies from JB to her requests for copies of the murder scenes as it appears that she's into that sort of thing so it's not JB who's twisted !!
You get people like that who are ready to talk about others but are like that themselves.
I think she probably wanted to receive so called "twisted letters". It explains why she asked twisted questions about Sheila's personal life and other unnamed subjects which Jeremy quite rightly refused to discuss.
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Hi Gringo,
I have lots of 8 page plus letters from JB. So as Roch pointed out the CT was near enough
For her to go to those lengths she must be worried about some kind of legal action
I am still waiting to see proof of the ‘twisted letters’ or the date of any phone calls when she spoke to Jeremy
No wonder there have been so many mistakes in the drama if she advised them.
I hope her career is well and truly over Caroline
CAL has wrote
"Just one other example, which has arisen as a result of the ITV drama: the campaign team's claims about the vet having recommended that June Bamber's beloved dog was put to sleep are untrue. The vet's statement is in the police files and makes it absolutely clear that the only person involved in making that decision was Jeremy Bamber. If this is not so, then perhaps the campaign team would like to quote that statement in full."
Its been claimed in CALs book that the defense pathologist at Jeremy's trial had real difficulty working out who was behind the trigger. If this is so, then perhaps CAL would like to quote that transcript in full.
He who is without sin let him cast the first stone!
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I think she probably wanted to receive so called "twisted letters". It explains why she asked twisted questions about Sheila's personal life and other unnamed subjects which Jeremy quite rightly refused to discuss.
Jeremy very likely saw through her when it was too late I think.
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Seriously, you lot couldn't be honest if your lives depended on it. For starters David, you collected those pictures and we BOTH know where from 'brought to your attention' yeah right! ;D ;D ;D ;D! You also selectively posted what you needed in order to back up the pathetic claim that CAL only received a few letters. The post that went with those letters also stated that they are only SOME of the letters from Bamber but even when only SOME are posted, even an idiot can see there is a LOT more than the ten you lot are claiming! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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CAL has wrote
"Just one other example, which has arisen as a result of the ITV drama: the campaign team's claims about the vet having recommended that June Bamber's beloved dog was put to sleep are untrue. The vet's statement is in the police files and makes it absolutely clear that the only person involved in making that decision was Jeremy Bamber. If this is not so, then perhaps the campaign team would like to quote that statement in full."
Its been claimed in CALs book that the defense pathologist at Jeremy's trial had real difficulty working out who was behind the trigger. If this is so, then perhaps CAL would like to quote that transcript in full.
He who is without sin let him cast the first stone!
Wow David, your informant is pretty shit hot or did you just forget to type how it was 'brought to your attention" ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Jeremy very likely saw through her when it was too late I think.
Lookout imagine Jeremy sitting in prison hearing about all these lies written by her and not being able to do a thing about
Although the drama is meant to look like JB is 100% guilty I hope because of the publicity the right people get behind the campaign to expose all the deception by the relatives and the police
I hope this ridiculous non factual drama backfires on the whole lot of them involved
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Wow David, your informant is pretty shit hot or did you just forget to type how it was 'brought to your attention" ;D ;D ;D ;D
Glad your on this thread
As your in touch with Cal when exactly did she speak to Jeremy on the phone or was that a lie as well
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Seriously, you lot couldn't be honest if your lives depended on it. For starters David, you collected those pictures and we BOTH know where from 'brought to your attention' yeah right! ;D ;D ;D ;D! You also selectively posted what you needed in order to back up the pathetic claim that CAL only received a few letters. The post that went with those letters also stated that they are only SOME of the letters from Bamber but even when only SOME are posted, even an idiot can see there is a LOT more than the ten you lot are claiming! ;D ;D ;D ;D
How on Earth is that hundred
Are you joking ????
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Glad your on this thread
As your in touch with Cal when exactly did she speak to Jeremy on the phone or was that a lie as well
Looks like David is in touch - oh sorry, he has someone to 'bring things to his attention' ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
She hasn't said she talked to him on the phone and I suspect hell would freeze over before one of your nutty Instagram posts are answered. Stay furious!
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Seriously, you lot couldn't be honest if your lives depended on it. For starters David, you collected those pictures and we BOTH know where from 'brought to your attention' yeah right! ;D ;D ;D ;D! You also selectively posted what you needed in order to back up the pathetic claim that CAL only received a few letters. The post that went with those letters also stated that they are only SOME of the letters from Bamber but even when only SOME are posted, even an idiot can see there is a LOT more than the ten you lot are claiming! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Oh no! I wasn't shown an extra corner showing 10 more pages! :o
How about you send CAL your photo of Sheila's foot with the toe nails cropped out as a valentines day card.
(https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/apple/237/face-with-tears-of-joy_1f602.png)
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How on Earth is that hundred
Are you joking ????
Can't you see that the floor and the shelves are covered? Are you blind, dumb or just blinkered? Don't you recall the 5 letters mentioned by the CT? It was only a few weeks ago? What would you like her to do? Photograph every single letter to suit you morons? Fucking grow up!
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Looks like David is in touch - oh sorry, he has someone to 'bring things to his attention' ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
She hasn't said she talked to him on the phone and I suspect hell would freeze over before one of your nutty Instagram posts are answered. Stay furious!
That’s exactly what she said in an interview FACT
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Can't you see that the floor and the shelves are covered? Are you blind, dumb or just blinkered? Don't you recall the 5 letters mentioned by the CT? It was only a few weeks ago? What would you like her to do? Photograph every single letter to suit you morons? Fucking grow up!
I will get to the truth and I will prove she is a liar
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I will get to the truth and I will prove she is a liar
Same pile just twisted to another way to look like there is more letters
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Same pile just twisted to another way to look like there is more letters
You're crackers! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Oh no! I wasn't shown an extra corner showing 10 more pages! :o
How about you send CAL your photo of Sheila's foot with the toe nails cropped out as a valentines day card.
(https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/apple/237/face-with-tears-of-joy_1f602.png)
You seem to be stalking - you send it!
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I will get to the truth and I will prove she is a liar
You lot are doing a shit job so far! However, you have shown yourselves to be an embarrassing set of Bamber fanatics! Scary!
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You're crackers! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Jeremy Bamber: 'My personal opinion is very much that he's guilty' - author Carol Ann Lee
PUBLISHED: 17:00 08 January 2020 | UPDATED: 12:27 09 January 2020
Date of the article
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Oh no! I wasn't shown an extra corner showing 10 more pages! :o
How about you send CAL your photo of Sheila's foot with the toe nails cropped out as a valentines day card.
(https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/apple/237/face-with-tears-of-joy_1f602.png)
You weren't 'shown' anything - you found those pictures and we both know where!
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Jeremy Bamber: 'My personal opinion is very much that he's guilty' - author Carol Ann Lee
PUBLISHED: 17:00 08 January 2020 | UPDATED: 12:27 09 January 2020
Date of the article
And?
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You weren't 'shown' anything - you found those pictures and we both know where!
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And?
She lied in an interview FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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She lied in an interview FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
About what?
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About what?
She has spoken to Jeremy or is she changing her mind now
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She has spoken to Jeremy or is she changing her mind now
So if she said that - post the bloody quote!
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Looks like David is in touch - oh sorry, he has someone to 'bring things to his attention' ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
As you well know. Didn't someone once bring to my attention a half-baked theory about Jane's posts?
I don't ask for all this stuff you know. There's a lot more :-\
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As you well know. Didn't someone once bring to my attention a half-baked theory about Jane's posts?
I don't ask for all this stuff you know. There's a lot more :-\
No one brings anything to your attention - it's all you. Or you just parrot someone else.
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So if she said that - post the bloody quote!
You have seen the quote
Ask her yourself
Why are there no twisted letters from JB
Another author friend of yours turns out to be a bare faced liar
I am pleased to expose her when a programme she is associated it still running on TV
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Date of the article
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You lot are doing a shit job so far! However, you have shown yourselves to be an embarrassing set of Bamber fanatics! Scary!
Ah, how many hours a day do you spend on here ????
Scary
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As you well know. Didn't someone once bring to my attention a half-baked theory about Jane's posts?
I don't ask for all this stuff you know. There's a lot more :-\
More please David ;)
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You have seen the quote
Ask her yourself
Why are there no twisted letters from JB
Another author friend of yours turns out to be a bare faced liar
I am pleased to expose her when a programme she is associated it still running on TV
You're the one wetting your pants over it. I have no idea what you're talking about. She's never said she spoke to Bamber on the phone! ;D ;D ;D ;D
As for exposing someone, you're just a silly nowt, full of bitterness posting on the internet. Get real! Plus, she isn't a liar, she'd posted the proof of her letters, not her fault that some people's obsession goes well beyond the pale to the point where you're wiling to show yourselves up completely!
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More please David ;)
Steady! :o
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Ah, how many hours a day do you spend on here ????
Scary
You've been on here more than me you mad bat! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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More please David ;)
Just proving my point. :-\
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You've been on here more than me you mad bat! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Have you noticed some of his letters to CAL are not in block capitals? This could give us a whole new insight.
A guy named Tom Garvey who has studied graphology has written this -
"Some may choose capital letters because it is important to be understood. They believe communication should be clear. Go one step further, they believe a writing is better than a spoken communication. Many will use cursive in letter writing but address the envelope in caps. Why? it is important that it is delivered. Take no chances with the post office that yours is undeliverable due to poor penmanship. Not a complicated question. The better question is why do people send illegible notes, letters, or instructions? they don’t care is the likely answer, you figure it out. If the writing on the envelop is very different than the contents you have a public persona vs. a private personal style. Many young people reading this may have never gotten a handwritten letter in the mail, too bad. they are a joy due to the personal touch, I miss them."
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I still write letters and use cheques as well.
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Have you noticed some of his letters to CAL are not in block capitals? This could give us a whole new insight.
A guy named Tom Garvey who has studied graphology has written this -
"Some may choose capital letters because it is important to be understood. They believe communication should be clear. Go one step further, they believe a writing is better than a spoken communication. Many will use cursive in letter writing but address the envelope in caps. Why? it is important that it is delivered. Take no chances with the post office that yours is undeliverable due to poor penmanship. Not a complicated question. The better question is why do people send illegible notes, letters, or instructions? they don’t care is the likely answer, you figure it out. If the writing on the envelop is very different than the contents you have a public persona vs. a private personal style. Many young people reading this may have never gotten a handwritten letter in the mail, too bad. they are a joy due to the personal touch, I miss them."
Oh I did not notice that . Someone commented that all his letters get scanned in prison , anyone know if that’s true ?
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Oh I did not notice that . Someone commented that all his letters get scanned in prison , anyone know if that’s true ?
They could be opened and scanned now because of drugs but I'm not sure if this has always been the case. Drugs are now impregnated in the paper somehow. In the area where JB is I imagine they are stricter somehow so they probably are scanned or copied in some way or other.
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They could be opened and scanned now because of drugs but I'm not sure if this has always been the case. Drugs are now impregnated in the paper somehow. In the area where JB is I imagine they are stricter somehow so they probably are scanned or copied in some way or other.
They aren't scanned on a machine that copies them, they will be scanned for contraband like at the airport.
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They aren't scanned on a machine that copies them, they will be scanned for contraband like at the airport.
Ah . The impression was they were scanned in a reader type machine to check what he was writing about before they were allowed out of the prison . Obviously not true then .
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Ah . The impression was they were scanned in a reader type machine to check what he was writing about before they were allowed out of the prison . Obviously not true then .
Which may have been the impression you were supposed to take?
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Ah . The impression was they were scanned in a reader type machine to check what he was writing about before they were allowed out of the prison . Obviously not true then .
They have to leave the envelope open and they are checked. I think once over, they used to be read but I doubt that happens now, it would take too long. They probably pick various ones to read at random.
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Which may have been the impression you were supposed to take?
What’s that supposed to mean ?
The information was not from Jeremy ?
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They aren't scanned on a machine that copies them, they will be scanned for contraband like at the airport.
Like I said, they are scanned ::)
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Like I said, they are scanned ::)
I was commenting on the latter part of your post and agreeing with the former - calm down! ::)
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I was commenting on the latter part of your post and agreeing with the former - calm down! ::)
It's you. You're as quick as lightening with your negative comments all the time.
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It's you. You're as quick as lightening with your negative comments all the time.
I learned it fro you! :-*
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I learned it fro you! :-*
That's right, blame somebody else ::) Never you, is it ?
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That's right, blame somebody else ::) Never you, is it ?
;D
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That's right, blame somebody else ::) Never you, is it ?
Of course not ;) - least I don't try and track members down though - that's just creep and weird - eh David? :o
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Of course not ;) - least I don't try and track members down though - that's just creep and weird - eh David? :o
Stop trying to justify your own shortcomings by blaming someone else ::) It goes on and on ad infinitum.
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Stop trying to justify your own shortcomings by blaming someone else ::) It goes on and on ad infinitum.
Oh dear! Lookout! You're getting muddled again, aren't you? You're talking about yourself. It's YOUR shortcomings, remember.
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Stop trying to justify your own shortcomings by blaming someone else ::) It goes on and on ad infinitum.
Yes, I should have said that to you when you were complaining about being hacked. Should it happen to you again, I'll show the same contempt.
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Oh dear! Lookout! You're getting muddled again, aren't you? You're talking about yourself. It's YOUR shortcomings, remember.
I never get muddled---much as you'd like to think I do. I have to stay sharp to be on the " lookout " for people like you.
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I never get muddled---much as you'd like to think I do. I have to stay sharp to be on the " lookout " for people like you.
And you spend so much time on the 'lookout' for me, that you miss those you should be on the 'lookout' for.
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And you spend so much time on the 'lookout' for me, that you miss those you should be on the 'lookout' for.
I don't miss much.
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Yes, I should have said that to you when you were complaining about being hacked. Should it happen to you again, I'll show the same contempt.
Who the xxxx has been hacked you nasty witch
Nice names you have been calling all the female supporters over on the red forum
What more should I expect from where you come from
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Who the xxxx has been hacked you nasty witch
Nice names you have been calling all the female supporters over on the red forum
What more should I expect from where you come from
dear dear,you have got a serious temper problem
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So if it's being denied that the letters were "twisted", what actually might be? I'd say that very high on/top of the list comes the behaviour of a person who appears to have made their sole purpose in life to track down a fellow member of a forum to the extent that they allegedly know where that person is from, what they look like, which other forums they're on and who it is they converse with..........................without their victim ever having shared any of the information with them.
I believe the generic term for this action to be "STALKING", but there's also following, trailing, shadowing, sneaking, hounding, all suggesting that the person behind the action, at the very least, does NOT have their chosen victim's best interests at heart, and probably is possessed of a particularly sick and evil mind, and generally speaking, is probably someone one wouldn't wish to be known as being a friend to.
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So if it's being denied that the letters were "twisted", what actually might be? I'd say that very high on/top of the list comes the behaviour of a person who appears to have made their sole purpose in life to track down a fellow member of a forum to the extent that they allegedly know where that person is from, what they look like, which other forums they're on and who it is they converse with..........................without their victim ever having shared any of the information with them.
I believe the generic term for this action to be "STALKING", but there's also following, trailing, shadowing, sneaking, hounding, all suggesting that the person behind the action, at the very least, does NOT have their chosen victim's best interests at heart, and probably is possessed of a particularly sick and evil mind, and generally speaking, is probably someone one wouldn't wish to be known as being a friend to.
Jane you have been warned previously
You have broken the law
I have kept every post
I thought I was on ignore
I haven’t stalked anyone, your ‘nice’ mate is all over the Internet exposed by p Harrison and Facebook
By the way I have a Facebook account which I do not post on
Your mate is backing Carol Ann Lee and I am going to put right any misconceptions that she tries to make people believe
She certainly has not made any retractions of lies put out in interviews
Carol Anne Lee has jumped on the let’s make money out of JB
The WHF drama is an absolute joke and not the true story
On top of that your mate (who obviously does not have a job) pops over to the fascist red forum to make vile sexist comments about JBs female supporter
It’s vile and disgusting
You have done exactly the same
I suggest you shut up and put me on ignore again and I will get on with my job of challenging lies and misconceptions