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Offline shonapugs

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Re: Question About Entrance, Exit
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2011, 09:59:PM »
I find it pretty hard to imagine the family going to bed as usual, if Sheila had fired a shotgun in the kitchen earlier on in the evening.

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Re: Question About Entrance, Exit
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2011, 10:02:PM »

abs, was there any physical proof that anyone either entered or left
via either of those windows or is it purely based on what the
prosecution suggested had happened?
From what I have gathered Ann  Eaton did so much cleaning up in
the Farmhouse that very little physical evidence remained. (Things
like traces of blood on the windows perhaps?)
Did the Police find any Forensic evidence around or on those windows/
windowsills?

I don´t think there was actual physical evidence of any of this, but it was alleged that that is how it happened. And I think Ann Eaton claimed that some items on the kitchen table in front of the window were not in their normal place, but seemed to have been pushed aside. Furthermore she said that she thought she saw some marks on or around the window sill, which could resemble blood - but she had cleaned them up!
This is how I remember it - please correct me if I´m wrong.
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Paulg, what do you mean by screened? I am not sure - sometimes my understanding of English is limited.

There are outbuildings blocking anyone seeing the kitchen window. There's no houses overlooking the WHF, its remote. Check bing maps or something Abs, then use the satelite view.

And Keira, we here gun shots all the time round here, even late at night, i doubt it would cause concern to anyone. Maybe if someone was screaming, it would raise concerns.

And, would Neville leave his weapons and ammo out, if Sheila had fired a shotgun...i really very much doubt it.

Thanks. I thought that when you said screened, you meant the window.
I know the WHF surroundings - I uploaded an aerial shot of it, it is in the picture thread.
I still would not crawl out of a fully lit window after having offed my whole family!

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Re: Question About Entrance, Exit
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2011, 12:36:PM »
I find it pretty hard to imagine the family going to bed as usual, if Sheila had fired a shotgun in the kitchen earlier on in the evening.

Hi shona, If a shotgun cartridge was discharged in the kitchen the night before the murders evidence of the blast would be fairly obvious.

I have asked Mike T before where the Raker cartridge, alleged to be associated with this discharge, was supposedly found, but no reply so far. I feel it was not in the kitchen for the reason stated above, but somewhere outside the house (and spent gun cartridges on a farm I'm sure are relatively common).

If a shotgun blast was heard that night I may simply have been let off outside to scare vermin. As far as I can tell there is no indication a shotgun was used in anger against persons (and Shona I am with you on a third party's involvement, with JB's knowledge, and have posted on this some months ago in a debate with Kaldin).

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Re: Question About Entrance, Exit
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2011, 02:40:PM »
I find it pretty hard to imagine the family going to bed as usual, if Sheila had fired a shotgun in the kitchen earlier on in the evening.

Hi shona, If a shotgun cartridge was discharged in the kitchen the night before the murders evidence of the blast would be fairly obvious.

I have asked Mike T before where the Raker cartridge, alleged to be associated with this discharge, was supposedly found, but no reply so far. I feel it was not in the kitchen for the reason stated above, but somewhere outside the house (and spent gun cartridges on a farm I'm sure are relatively common).

If a shotgun blast was heard that night I may simply have been let off outside to scare vermin. As far as I can tell there is no indication a shotgun was used in anger against persons (and Shona I am with you on a third party's involvement, with JB's knowledge, and have posted on this some months ago in a debate with Kaldin).
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My understanding is that the spent "RAKER" cartridge case was found in the beach of the shotgun...

Hope this helps...
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