JB petition now has almost ten thousand signatures.

[Jane]

The sensible thing for you to do is admit you lied to NGB in order to get him to write about PH. Instead, you're doing what you usually do and are trying to turn the tables.

You have been told by Maggie that I changed my mind about Bamber long before I revealed it on the forum but your nasty narcissistic little self is trying to seek some revenge for being outed and you have been OUTED!  .

In a post to Scipio when he is trying to sound like a Bamber authority David write the following;

 


In a post replying to NGB 4 years LATER, David writes;


 

Amusing that the Narcissist in him just can't grasp that the more he tries to lay guilt on others, the more they'll be aware of his guilt. I wonder if he's ever heard of the guy who wrote his mother, from the front, that when it came to drill time, everyone but he, was out of step? I wonder if they're related?

[David1819]

Of course, it never occurred to Caroline and Jane that they would have to justify or explains themselves because they thought Paul Harrison's book was going to do all the talking for them. However once the book was released it quickly became obvious it was all a pack of lies.

With dumb and dumber now left to their own devices. The sensible thing to do would be to admit to being bamboozled like everyone else who's done dealings with this disgraceful man. But not these two, they then decide to waste five years of their lives selling the same dead horse PH sold them.

Of course It's never too late to admit you were wrong, Better late than never. Caroline and Jane do not have to subject themselves to being Paul Harrison residue forever.

[Caroline]

Of course It's never too late to admit you were wrong, Better late than never. Caroline and Jane do not have to subject themselves to being Paul Harrison residue forever.

More switcheroo tactics from the forum bullshitter - by the way, I realised that your report isn't unique. Alias did something quite similar long before you joined the forum - You must have seen it? 

What are you today David? A novice or an expert?  People are become wise to you!

[Jane]

Of course It's never too late to admit you were wrong, Better late than never. Caroline and Jane do not have to subject themselves to being Paul Harrison residue forever.

You don't HAVE to brown-nose your way through life, but if that's what you enjoy?.....................

[Caroline]

You don't HAVE to brown-nose your way through life, but if that's what you enjoy?.....................

The stupidity of his post is only out done by the pathetic excuse he posted yesterday in explanation for the  two quotes below 

The Series of issues you put forward are constructed with innumerable guesses and speculations on your part. Your portraying a prosecuting version of events rather than solid unbiased facts.

I appreciate the effort you make but at the end of the day not you or anyone else can solve the White House Farm murders I realised that myself a while ago having thoroughly read about the case being swayed one way or another by flimsy circumstantial evidence and opinion I soon realised you would have to have been there that night to be certain of what happened.

I once was fairly sure of Jeremy's guilt until two lawyers told me on separate occasions that if he was on trial today he would be found not guilty. That got me thinking and the more I looked into things the more cracks and holes I found in the prosecution. At the end of the day only Jeremy knows. So if he is innocent there will always be guesses rumors and doubt. If he is guilty he is only one that can effectively solve the case by providing a detailed confession.

That article was one of the first things I ever read about the case after I watched a documentary on JB in late 2014. Still ignorant on the subject I just took it all at face value. I still remember joining this forum a few month later naively thinking you were Jeremy’s "protector". Looking back I cant help but laugh.

[Jane]

The stupidity of his post is only out done by the pathetic excuse he posted yesterday in explanation for the  two quotes below 

Perhaps he imagines he's so clever, that rather than back down, he thinks no one will notice what a conniving liar he is if he directs inflammatory posts against us. Actually, when one thinks how trivial is the 'crime' he accuses us of -forming the wrong opinion of someone (he overlooks that we've admitted it)- compared to the whole CATALOGUE of his own dishonest behaviours, it's really hardly worth a mention. 

[David1819]

Of course It's never too late to admit you were wrong, Better late than never. Caroline and Jane do not have to subject themselves to being Paul Harrison residue forever.

Less than two month after Paul Harrison began to confide in people that his book was changing narrative, Caroline and Jane begin to change their tune also. What then followed was the walletgate charade and the last trailer travesty.

While Paul Harrison was saying this -

"Mr Harrison said his book will "finally bring closure" and prove Bamber's guilt beyond doubt when it is published ahead of the 30th anniversary of the slayings next August."

Caroline was saying this about him -

My dealings with MD have simply been an exchange of ideas and I have ALWAYS found him to be an honest and honorable man.

What exchange of ideas was this? Its no coincidence they both advance a guilt narrative with no silencer and both prepared to argue for Sheila being an accomplice.

There is no question as to what made Caroline and Jane change their minds, the truth here explains why we never get a straight answer from them as to what did. I know it, they know it and anyone that was on the forum during that period could work that out.  I must emphasize that PH being a seasoned con man he is to blame here nobody else.

The question that remains is how much longer will they keep up the facade? What can it possibly achieve? Maggie and Susan reluctantly went along and purchased the dead horse for a while and that's about all it ever did achieve. Some 30,000 contradictory and toxic forum posts is not an achievement.

Will they go on for yet another five years all because they cant admit they got duped? 

[lookout]

 The " freelibrary " online told/tells a different story as the heading shows " Book cop I'll show Bamber Innocent "  .

A controversial new book claims that Jeremy Bamber was wrongly convicted of murdering his family.

" His conviction is unsound " " There has been a miscarriage of Justice of that I'm sure ".

Strange words coming from someone who'd thought him guilty as sin ?

[Caroline]

Less than two month after Paul Harrison began to confide in people that his book was changing narrative, Caroline and Jane begin to change their tune also. What then followed was the walletgate charade and the last trailer travesty.

While Paul Harrison was saying this -

"Mr Harrison said his book will "finally bring closure" and prove Bamber's guilt beyond doubt when it is published ahead of the 30th anniversary of the slayings next August."

Caroline was saying this about him -

What exchange of ideas was this? Its no coincidence they both advance a guilt narrative with no silencer and both prepared to argue for Sheila being an accomplice.

There is no question as to what made Caroline and Jane change their minds, the truth here explains why we never get a straight answer from them as to what did. I know it, they know it and anyone that was on the forum during that period could work that out.  I must emphasize that PH being a seasoned con man he is to blame here nobody else.

The question that remains is how much longer will they keep up the facade? What can it possibly achieve? Maggie and Susan reluctantly went along and purchased the dead horse for a while and that's about all it ever did achieve. Some 30,000 contradictory and toxic forum posts is not an achievement.

Will they go on for yet another five years all because they cant admit they got duped? 

You are so transparent it's unbelievable  - caught banged to rights in a lie David tries to turn the tables with his obsession with PH. Instead of wasting your time trying to be a detective (because you ave shown you have zero abilities with that), perhaps you might come up with a better explanation of why you lied to NGB?

The Series of issues you put forward are constructed with innumerable guesses and speculations on your part. Your portraying a prosecuting version of events rather than solid unbiased facts.

I appreciate the effort you make but at the end of the day not you or anyone else can solve the White House Farm murders I realised that myself a while ago having thoroughly read about the case being swayed one way or another by flimsy circumstantial evidence and opinion I soon realised you would have to have been there that night to be certain of what happened.

I once was fairly sure of Jeremy's guilt until two lawyers told me on separate occasions that if he was on trial today he would be found not guilty. That got me thinking and the more I looked into things the more cracks and holes I found in the prosecution. At the end of the day only Jeremy knows. So if he is innocent there will always be guesses rumors and doubt. If he is guilty he is only one that can effectively solve the case by providing a detailed confession.

That article was one of the first things I ever read about the case after I watched a documentary on JB in late 2014. Still ignorant on the subject I just took it all at face value. I still remember joining this forum a few month later naively thinking you were Jeremy’s "protector". Looking back I cant help but laugh.

[ngb1066]

The " freelibrary " online told/tells a different story as the heading shows " Book cop I'll show Bamber Innocent "  .

A controversial new book claims that Jeremy Bamber was wrongly convicted of murdering his family.

" His conviction is unsound " " There has been a miscarriage of Justice of that I'm sure ".

Strange words coming from someone who'd thought him guilty as sin ?

His book was from the outset was going to be strongly from an innocent perspective.  He said that he had attended the trial and always knew that there was something dodgy about EP's handling of the case.
He said that Taff Jones had been very badly treated.  This all changed at the beginning of February 2014.
He had a big bust up with the CT and no longer had access to case materials.  At the same time he claimed that two months earlier he had received the letter from an ex con who had known JB in prison.  However, during the two months following the alleged receipt of this letter he had continued his original stance on the case.  It was only the row with the CT that caused him to reverse his position.

[David1819]

His book was from the outset was going to be strongly from an innocent perspective.  He said that he had attended the trial and always knew that there was something dodgy about EP's handling of the case.
He said that Taff Jones had been very badly treated.  This all changed at the beginning of February 2014.
He had a big bust up with the CT and no longer had access to case materials.  At the same time he claimed that two months earlier he had received the letter from an ex con who had known JB in prison.  However, during the two months following the alleged receipt of this letter he had continued his original stance on the case.  It was only the row with the CT that caused him to reverse his position.

He also announced in December of 2013 that his book was now being delayed due to "legal reasons".

We cannot even know for sure if his original intentions for the book was ever true or not. It could have all been a facade to get info from this forum and the CT for all we know. Its unlikely he ever held a personal opinion on the case. And that he was just going by whatever narrative was most convenient to him and any change of narrative was down to what suited him best.

I have said before that If he did intend on publish a pro innocent book, Its actually a blessing that he never did. Because undoubtedly it would have backfired on Jeremy. The situation with PH now actually does Jeremy a favour ironically.

[Jane]

Less than two month after Paul Harrison began to confide in people that his book was changing narrative, Caroline and Jane begin to change their tune also. What then followed was the walletgate charade and the last trailer travesty.

While Paul Harrison was saying this -

"Mr Harrison said his book will "finally bring closure" and prove Bamber's guilt beyond doubt when it is published ahead of the 30th anniversary of the slayings next August."

Caroline was saying this about him -

What exchange of ideas was this? Its no coincidence they both advance a guilt narrative with no silencer and both prepared to argue for Sheila being an accomplice.

There is no question as to what made Caroline and Jane change their minds, the truth here explains why we never get a straight answer from them as to what did. I know it, they know it and anyone that was on the forum during that period could work that out.  I must emphasize that PH being a seasoned con man he is to blame here nobody else.

The question that remains is how much longer will they keep up the facade? What can it possibly achieve? Maggie and Susan reluctantly went along and purchased the dead horse for a while and that's about all it ever did achieve. Some 30,000 contradictory and toxic forum posts is not an achievement.

Will they go on for yet another five years all because they cant admit they got duped? 

You know, the ability to bear grudges is a particularly ugly trait, David -how totally pathetic that you have to drag  into this a poster who hasn't been on the forum for years. More digging through past posts?- I find it amusing that you fail to see the close similarities between yourself and PH. What Caroline once said of HIM  -"honest and honorable"- was something, at one time, we gave you the benefit of being. We were as incorrect about you as we were about PH. Whatever you may think you know about how WE may have thought can only be within your own frame of reference, fueled by your own deviousness and lies, as are those toxic post to which you refer.

You have yet to make it known what it is you believe we should confess to that we haven't already. We -and MANY others- were fooled by PH......................but in all likelihood, were also fooled by you.

[Caroline]

You know, the ability to bear grudges is a particularly ugly trait, David -how totally pathetic that you have to drag  into this a poster who hasn't been on the forum for years. More digging through past posts?- I find it amusing that you fail to see the close similarities between yourself and PH. What Caroline once said of HIM  -"honest and honorable"- was something, at one time, we gave you the benefit of being. We were as incorrect about you as we were about PH. Whatever you may think you know about how WE may have thought can only be within your own frame of reference, fueled by your own deviousness and lies, as are those toxic post to which you refer.

You have yet to make it known what it is you believe we should confess to that we haven't already. We -and MANY others- were fooled by PH......................but in all likelihood, were also fooled by you.

Totally hold my hand to to being fooled by PH but I have never been fooled by David.

[Caroline]

He also announced in December of 2013 that his book was now being delayed due to "legal reasons".

We cannot even know for sure if his original intentions for the book was ever true or not. It could have all been a facade to get info from this forum and the CT for all we know. Its unlikely he ever held a personal opinion on the case. And that he was just going by whatever narrative was most convenient to him and any change of narrative was down to what suited him best.

I have said before that If he did intend on publish a pro innocent book, Its actually a blessing that he never did. Because undoubtedly it would have backfired on Jeremy. The situation with PH now actually does Jeremy a favour ironically.

The book has no impact on Bamber at all and CAL’S book had him banged to rights.  A book that is as good as if not better than Wilkes. Weren’t you bragging about writing a book? That being the case, the PH book can at least move from the Worst position to make room for yours but like your great breakthrough I’m sure it will only ever have influence in your own imagination  .

[Adam]

Didn't Paul Harrison say Sheila was an accomplice?

As stated Sheila almost certainly slept through the shootings of Daniel, Nicholas, June & Nevill. The only evidenced noise was a brief but brutal fight in the downstairs kitchen.

It is claimed June would have screamed after being shot 5 times. There is no evidence she did or that this woke Sheila.

If Sheila did wake & get out of bed after Daniel, Nicholas, Nevill and June had been shot/killed, there was nothing she could do.