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Offline Caroline

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« Reply #90 on: August 28, 2019, 01:16:PM »
His book was from the outset was going to be strongly from an innocent perspective.  He said that he had attended the trial and always knew that there was something dodgy about EP's handling of the case.
He said that Taff Jones had been very badly treated.  This all changed at the beginning of February 2014.
He had a big bust up with the CT and no longer had access to case materials.  At the same time he claimed that two months earlier he had received the letter from an ex con who had known JB in prison.  However, during the two months following the alleged receipt of this letter he had continued his original stance on the case.  It was only the row with the CT that caused him to reverse his position.

To be honest, I’m not sure he even had started the book when he first arrived here, nor any idea of where to go with it. I think it ended up being what it is because he ran out of time with the publisher. Who knows though what motivated him - arrogance? The need to make a living? Whatever his motives, he’s been caught out and his career is over. He angered a lot of people here but as David wasn’t even a member then, his interest seems more like muck raking and he must have some sneck because it’s into everything! Pity he doesn’t understand when he himself has been caught out.
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« Reply #91 on: August 28, 2019, 01:18:PM »
Didn't Paul Harrison say Sheila was an accomplice?

As stated Sheila almost certainly slept through the shootings of Daniel, Nicholas, June & Nevill. The only evidenced noise was a brief but brutal fight in the downstairs kitchen.

It is claimed June would have screamed after being shot 5 times. There is no evidence she did or that this woke Sheila.

If Sheila did wake & get out of bed after Daniel, Nicholas, Nevill and June had been shot/killed, there was nothing she could do.

Yes, he did claim that, which is rubbish - Bamber acted alone.
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« Reply #92 on: August 28, 2019, 01:24:PM »
Obviously Nevill would not have stood for any nonsense at 1am. He had just had a long day.on the farm & had another long day coming up. Ditto Bamber who is last person he would phone.

Sheila being bare footed in a nightie at 1am, holding a rifle for shooting rabbits, would instantly be negated.
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« Reply #93 on: August 28, 2019, 01:44:PM »
Obviously Nevill would not have stood for any nonsense at 1am. He had just had a long day.on the farm & had another long day coming up. Ditto Bamber who is last person he would phone.

Sheila being bare footed in a nightie at 1am, holding a rifle for shooting rabbits, would instantly be negated.


Mmm. Well, I expect, in a perfect world, IF Sheila had been standing in front of Nevill with a loaded gun pointed at him, Nevill would have said "Put the gun down, darling" and Sheila would have said All right, Daddy" and complied. However, in reality, I wonder if anyone would take the risk of trying to take a loaded gun from someone who was intent on shooting them? Their only chance may be to push the barrel to one side but fingers on triggers could pre-empt that movement and bullets move remarkably fast.

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« Reply #94 on: August 28, 2019, 01:54:PM »
Yes, he did claim that, which is rubbish - Bamber acted alone.

Do you believe Sheila woke & got out of bed mid massacre?
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« Reply #95 on: August 28, 2019, 01:59:PM »

Mmm. Well, I expect, in a perfect world, IF Sheila had been standing in front of Nevill with a loaded gun pointed at him, Nevill would have said "Put the gun down, darling" and Sheila would have said All right, Daddy" and complied. However, in reality, I wonder if anyone would take the risk of trying to take a loaded gun from someone who was intent on shooting them? Their only chance may be to push the barrel to one side but fingers on triggers could pre-empt that movement and bullets move remarkably fast.

Sheila holding a shot gun, one bullet going off accidentially could be fatal.

But a rifle for shooting rabbits, Nevill would have no hesitation in quickly resolving things himself.
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« Reply #96 on: August 28, 2019, 02:06:PM »
Sheila holding a shot gun, one bullet going off accidentially could be fatal.

But a rifle for shooting rabbits, Nevill would have no hesitation in quickly resolving things himself.


Perhaps you'd better tell us how (you believe) he'd have handled it?

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« Reply #97 on: August 28, 2019, 02:08:PM »
Do you believe Sheila woke & got out of bed mid massacre?


Whether she did or didn't, she's equally dead either way, isn't she?

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« Reply #98 on: August 28, 2019, 02:10:PM »

Perhaps you'd better tell us how (you believe) he'd have handled it?

Gained control of the rifle. Nevill was 9 inches taller & 8 stone heavier than Sheila. Would only take a few seconds.
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« Reply #99 on: August 28, 2019, 02:10:PM »
Sheila holding a shot gun, one bullet going off accidentially could be fatal.

But a rifle for shooting rabbits, Nevill would have no hesitation in quickly resolving things himself.


Why would a trigger finger work any slower on a rifle if one was intent on shooting someone and felt they had a reason for doing so?

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« Reply #100 on: August 28, 2019, 02:14:PM »
Gained control of the rifle. Nevill was 9 inches taller & 8 stone heavier than Sheila. Would only take a few seconds.


And how are you explaining he'd do that with, at least, the barrel of the rifle between them? From across a room, every step he took towards the barrel may have been his last....................which may, in fact, have been the beginning of his eventual demise, just the shooter being different.

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« Reply #101 on: August 28, 2019, 02:15:PM »

Whether she did or didn't, she's equally dead either way, isn't she?

Some supporters say an awake Sheila would have fought back, but had no injuries. Although fail to say how Sheila avoided getting injuries during the kitchen fight.
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« Reply #102 on: August 28, 2019, 02:21:PM »

And how are you explaining he'd do that with, at least, the barrel of the rifle between them? From across a room, every step he took towards the barrel may have been his last....................which may, in fact, have been the beginning of his eventual demise, just the shooter being different.

Nevill would do it at the right time. Unlikely Sheila would get a shot away. If she did, it may miss or just hit Nevill in the torso. Either way, Nevill's got the rifle back & has no or a small injury. It was a rifle for shooting rabbits.

Nevill will protect himself, his wife, grand children & Sheila. He also needed to get some sleep.
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« Reply #103 on: August 28, 2019, 02:21:PM »
Some supporters say an awake Sheila would have fought back, but had no injuries. Although fail to say how Sheila avoided getting injuries during the kitchen fight.

Not if Bamber threatened to kill her kids (who were likely to be already dead).
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« Reply #104 on: August 28, 2019, 02:24:PM »
His book was from the outset was going to be strongly from an innocent perspective.  He said that he had attended the trial and always knew that there was something dodgy about EP's handling of the case.
He said that Taff Jones had been very badly treated.  This all changed at the beginning of February 2014.
He had a big bust up with the CT and no longer had access to case materials.  At the same time he claimed that two months earlier he had received the letter from an ex con who had known JB in prison.  However, during the two months following the alleged receipt of this letter he had continued his original stance on the case.  It was only the row with the CT that caused him to reverse his position.





Thankyou for that NGB, I hadn't known about his row with the CT----I wonder what that was all about ?