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Quote from: chochokeira on June 23, 2011, 12:48:AMQuote from: paulg on June 23, 2011, 12:20:AMThe reason i'm on this forum, is my brother asked me to test the journey.Its local police, so they'd know where to go, Chelmsford police would likely get lost. Newland street, onto A12. First exit off A12 Rivenhall end and past my house. Oak road, turn right onto Henry Dixon, follow onto Great braxted road, onto braxted park road. Turn right at T jct(maldon road), then left into Loamy hill road, turn left into plains road/witham road.Through Tolleshunt major, onto Tolleshunt Darcy road, then Beckingham road.Turn left at T jct, into Tolleshunt Darcy, then right into Tollesbury road.Journey takes 15ish minutes, i reckon i could do it in 10 with flashing blue lights.You must have hammered it to do it in 15 minutes on those roads. I don't accept it could be done in 10 minutes, even with a flashing light, you'd have to average c 60 mph which would mean driving dangerously on those roads.Come with me if you want, i'm a better trained driver than most Police.I didn't hammer the 30mph zones, probably 35ish. The country roads i never exceeded 65-70, though Braxted road/loamy and parts of Witham road i could certainly go faster. Braxted road-Maldon road is often hammered by locals, 60 is considered slow.Btw, my cars a 2.0l passat, nothing special.
Quote from: paulg on June 23, 2011, 12:20:AMThe reason i'm on this forum, is my brother asked me to test the journey.Its local police, so they'd know where to go, Chelmsford police would likely get lost. Newland street, onto A12. First exit off A12 Rivenhall end and past my house. Oak road, turn right onto Henry Dixon, follow onto Great braxted road, onto braxted park road. Turn right at T jct(maldon road), then left into Loamy hill road, turn left into plains road/witham road.Through Tolleshunt major, onto Tolleshunt Darcy road, then Beckingham road.Turn left at T jct, into Tolleshunt Darcy, then right into Tollesbury road.Journey takes 15ish minutes, i reckon i could do it in 10 with flashing blue lights.You must have hammered it to do it in 15 minutes on those roads. I don't accept it could be done in 10 minutes, even with a flashing light, you'd have to average c 60 mph which would mean driving dangerously on those roads.
The reason i'm on this forum, is my brother asked me to test the journey.Its local police, so they'd know where to go, Chelmsford police would likely get lost. Newland street, onto A12. First exit off A12 Rivenhall end and past my house. Oak road, turn right onto Henry Dixon, follow onto Great braxted road, onto braxted park road. Turn right at T jct(maldon road), then left into Loamy hill road, turn left into plains road/witham road.Through Tolleshunt major, onto Tolleshunt Darcy road, then Beckingham road.Turn left at T jct, into Tolleshunt Darcy, then right into Tollesbury road.Journey takes 15ish minutes, i reckon i could do it in 10 with flashing blue lights.
Quote from: chochokeira on June 23, 2011, 12:59:AMQuote from: paulg on June 23, 2011, 12:20:AMThe reason i'm on this forum, is my brother asked me to test the journey.Its local police, so they'd know where to go, Chelmsford police would likely get lost. Newland street, onto A12. First exit off A12 Rivenhall end and past my house. Oak road, turn right onto Henry Dixon, follow onto Great braxted road, onto braxted park road. Turn right at T jct(maldon road), then left into Loamy hill road, turn left into plains road/witham road.Through Tolleshunt major, onto Tolleshunt Darcy road, then Beckingham road.Turn left at T jct, into Tolleshunt Darcy, then right into Tollesbury road.Journey takes 15ish minutes, i reckon i could do it in 10 with flashing blue lights.+1 for driving the route Cheers Keira, though i see i've also got a smite, looks like the night time smiters are online.Hello smiters, anything constructive to add to the forum?
Quote from: paulg on June 23, 2011, 12:20:AMThe reason i'm on this forum, is my brother asked me to test the journey.Its local police, so they'd know where to go, Chelmsford police would likely get lost. Newland street, onto A12. First exit off A12 Rivenhall end and past my house. Oak road, turn right onto Henry Dixon, follow onto Great braxted road, onto braxted park road. Turn right at T jct(maldon road), then left into Loamy hill road, turn left into plains road/witham road.Through Tolleshunt major, onto Tolleshunt Darcy road, then Beckingham road.Turn left at T jct, into Tolleshunt Darcy, then right into Tollesbury road.Journey takes 15ish minutes, i reckon i could do it in 10 with flashing blue lights.+1 for driving the route
Sod em Paul!!
Anyways, goodnight girls. x
Quote from: Jerry on June 21, 2011, 10:04:AMQuote from: mike tesko on June 21, 2011, 09:49:AMQuote from: shonapugs on June 20, 2011, 09:51:PMSurely, Mike, if June and the children had already been shot, Ralph would call for an ambulance and the police? What would be the point of calling Jeremy? How could he help once the shootings had begun?... But you are forgeting that there are grounds for believing that Ralph did actually call the police, before he made the short call to Jeremy (discussed elsewhere)...I find it hard to believe that Nevill would have had time to phone the police and Jeremy too if someone was running amok in his home with a rifle.It is not recorded that Nevill ever phoned the police, only Jeremy's call to police is recorded reporting what his father allegedly said to him in a call some time earlier.As Mike and Jeremy's website have stated, Jerry, that wasn't the case.You are looking at rolling logs remember, which were added to as events occurred. The following is part of Jeremy Bamber's website statement on this issue:"The message that confuses people is “message passed to CD by son of Mr Bamber after the phone went dead, Mr Bamber has a collection of shotguns and .410’s” By referring to Jeremy Bamber’s call message report timed at 03.36 there was no word of him mentioning which firearms were at White House Farm in that call. By referring to PC Myall’s 8th August 85 Statement he says that on arrival at the farm he asked Jeremy to tell him which guns were in the house. It was only at this point that headquarters were contacted by radio to say that the son had given a list of firearms and the circumstance of the phone call he received, which the officer in the radio car CA07 relayed to HQ. This was logged as above."
Quote from: mike tesko on June 21, 2011, 09:49:AMQuote from: shonapugs on June 20, 2011, 09:51:PMSurely, Mike, if June and the children had already been shot, Ralph would call for an ambulance and the police? What would be the point of calling Jeremy? How could he help once the shootings had begun?... But you are forgeting that there are grounds for believing that Ralph did actually call the police, before he made the short call to Jeremy (discussed elsewhere)...I find it hard to believe that Nevill would have had time to phone the police and Jeremy too if someone was running amok in his home with a rifle.It is not recorded that Nevill ever phoned the police, only Jeremy's call to police is recorded reporting what his father allegedly said to him in a call some time earlier.
Quote from: shonapugs on June 20, 2011, 09:51:PMSurely, Mike, if June and the children had already been shot, Ralph would call for an ambulance and the police? What would be the point of calling Jeremy? How could he help once the shootings had begun?... But you are forgeting that there are grounds for believing that Ralph did actually call the police, before he made the short call to Jeremy (discussed elsewhere)...
Surely, Mike, if June and the children had already been shot, Ralph would call for an ambulance and the police? What would be the point of calling Jeremy? How could he help once the shootings had begun?
Jeremy's website is wrong about the call logs just as it is about many other facts and circumstances.The original and only call was timed by CD at 3.26 and the report reissued by another officer at 3.36The original call identified that Mr Bamber had a collection of shotguns and 410's
