Significance of two double marked bullet cases, found in kitchen?

[bob]

No bicycle, no wetsuit, but also no proof that Ralph made the call.................

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Equally, there is no proof that Ralph did not make the call...

There's no proof Ralph didn't dicover the secret of free energy and get shot by American oil magnates either Mike, but as someone has already said tonight - you can't prove a negative. If you want to claim Ralph made a phone call then you have to provide evidence for it - and that evidence can't be such that it is more easily explained as a police log referencing Jeremy's earlier call. Which it certainly appears to be, I'm afraid 

[mike tesko]

No bicycle, no wetsuit, but also no proof that Ralph made the call.................

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Equally, there is no proof that Ralph did not make the call...

There's no proof Ralph didn't dicover the secret of free energy and get shot by American oil magnates either Mike, but as someone has already said tonight - you can't prove a negative. If you want to claim Ralph made a phone call then you have to provide evidence for it - and that evidence can't be such that it is more easily explained as a police log referencing Jeremy's earlier call. Which it certainly appears to be, I'm afraid 

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I think details refer to call made by Ralph Bamber (3:26am) and that these are totally different to the log contents of Jeremy's call timed at 3:36am, where Ralph refers in his call to his daughter and the fact that she has got one of his guns, whereas, in Jeremy's call, he mentions sister and that she has got possession of the gun...

As I say, Sheila was not Jeremy's daughter, and Jeremy did not own the gun that supposedly fired all the bullets that killed everyone - why would Jeremy be referring to Sheila as his daughter and the fact that she had got one of his guns?

[shonapugs]

Mike, it simply isn't on the log. It states that the information was relayed by JB.

[Roch]

Mike, it simply isn't on the log. It states that the information was relayed by JB.

This is how the defence has attempted to explain the phone call/s issue:

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/nevill-s-call-to-police

[shonapugs]

Rochy, have I lost the plot yet again? The logs clearly state that any information was relayed by JB.

[Roch]

Rochy, have I lost the plot yet again? The logs clearly state that any information was relayed by JB.

This is how they attempt to explain your query pugsy...

The message that confuses people is:

“message passed to CD by son of Mr Bamber after the phone went dead, Mr Bamber has a collection of shotguns and .410’s”

By referring to Jeremy Bamber’s call message report timed at 03.36 there was no word of him mentioning which firearms were at White House Farm in that call. By referring to PC Myall’s 8th August 85 Statement he says that on arrival at the farm he asked Jeremy to tell him which guns were in the house. It was only at this point that headquarters were contacted by radio to say that the son had given a list of firearms and the circumstance of the phone call he received, which the officer in the radio car CA07 relayed to HQ. This was logged as above.   

[shonapugs]

All information came from JB...............

[shonapugs]

Rochy, look. Nothing from Ralph.

[shonapugs]

Poor Ralph was in no position to say anything. He was attacked first.

[shonapugs]

Next, the twins...............

[shonapugs]

Shot in arcs, cleanly.  Then the assailant moved on, towards June.

[chochokeira]

Rochy, have I lost the plot yet again? The logs clearly state that any information was relayed by JB.

No, they don't, Shona.

[chochokeira]

Rochy, have I lost the plot yet again? The logs clearly state that any information was relayed by JB.

No, they don't, Shona

[Roch]

Rochy, look. Nothing from Ralph.

Not if it's a rolling log and 'Mr. Bamber' of 'White House Farm' at the top of the log, is Nevill. 

[shonapugs]

It isn't rocket science, to work out the sequence of events. Ralph went downstairs to check out why the outside dog was barking, June settled down and went back to sleep, the boys slept on, Sheila was in her bedroom, doing what she always did, and Ralph was taken unawares. He didn't get a chance to call anyone, he was beaten then shot to death. then the assailant moved upstairs.