Video re photographs non-disclosure

[Jane]

There is indeed. I have now received a reply from CAL in respect to PC Bird and his experience as a scenes of crime photographer. The Bamber case was indeed only the second major incident he had attended after having taken the Scenes of Crime course when he joined Chelmsford. I have sent the proof of contact to NGB but have copied her response below,

"Dave Bird; he joined the police in 1976 (Canvey Island) but it wasn’t until he joined the Chelmsford lot that he decided to specialise in crime scene photography and took the required course. Bamber was his second major assignment in that capacity".

That's really interesting, Caroline. It's not something previously known, I feel certain.

[lookout]

That's really interesting, Caroline. It's not something previously known, I feel certain.

What ? I'll be seeing it in my sleep.  At least you've got something to hang on to.

[Caroline]

What ? I'll be seeing it in my sleep.  At least you've got something to hang on to.

I didn't post it for you, there are lots of other threads to keep you awake.

[Caroline]

   You're welcome, Jackie. I think there is more to come yet.

There is indeed. I have now received a reply from CAL in respect to PC Bird and his experience as a scenes of crime photographer. The Bamber case was indeed only the second major incident he had attended after having taken the Scenes of Crime course when he joined Chelmsford. I have sent the proof of contact to NGB but have copied her response below,

"Dave Bird; he joined the police in 1976 (Canvey Island) but it wasn’t until he joined the Chelmsford lot that he decided to specialise in crime scene photography and took the required course. Bamber was his second major assignment in that capacity".

[lookout]

Oh dear. Remind me not to go on this particular thread.

[sami]

Oh dear. Remind me not to go on this particular thread.

you mustnt ignore facts lookout

[notsure]

There is indeed. I have now received a reply from CAL in respect to PC Bird and his experience as a scenes of crime photographer. The Bamber case was indeed only the second major incident he had attended after having taken the Scenes of Crime course when he joined Chelmsford. I have sent the proof of contact to NGB but have copied her response below,

"Dave Bird; he joined the police in 1976 (Canvey Island) but it wasn’t until he joined the Chelmsford lot that he decided to specialise in crime scene photography and took the required course. Bamber was his second major assignment in that capacity".

hi caroline

i don’t personally find that an excuse, surely if he had finished training and had done one other major scene the training he recieved should have been fresh in his head as to what to do.

it’s a bit lame imo

[Caroline]

hi caroline

i don’t personally find that an excuse, surely if he had finished training and had done one other major scene the training he recieved should have been fresh in his head as to what to do.

it’s a bit lame imo

Again, I didn't post it as a discussion - it is the answer to a question I asked CAL and promised to post to settle an argument.

[Jane]

hi caroline

i don’t personally find that an excuse, surely if he had finished training and had done one other major scene the training he recieved should have been fresh in his head as to what to do.

it’s a bit lame imo

I feel certain, after his course of-how long do you think? a residential weekend? a week? a fortnight?- he'd have been more than competent to carry out photography duties in a theoretical or classroom situation. This 'exercise' would have been beyond his worst nightmares. I suspect that much of the training he'd received in the quiet of a classroom situation, may have left him, at least, momentarily, when he entered that scene of carnage and found colleagues stepping over each other, all trying to do jobs they were trained for in difficult circumstances.

[sami]

I feel certain, after his course of-how long do you think? a residential weekend? a week? a fortnight?- he'd have been more than competent to carry out photography duties in a theoretical or classroom situation. This 'exercise' would have been beyond his worst nightmares. I suspect that much of the training he'd received in the quiet of a classroom situation, may have left him, at least, momentarily, when he entered that scene of carnage and found colleagues stepping over each other, all trying to do jobs they were trained for in difficult circumstances.

good point jane ,he must have been overawed

[notsure]

Again, I didn't post it as a discussion - it is the answer to a question I asked CAL and promised to post to settle an argument.

oh ok sorry

[lookout]

Again, I didn't post it as a discussion - it is the answer to a question I asked CAL and promised to post to settle an argument.

Which argument was that then ?

[David1819]

hi caroline

i don’t personally find that an excuse, surely if he had finished training and had done one other major scene the training he recieved should have been fresh in his head as to what to do.

it’s a bit lame imo

I don't think he is behind the film strips being cut.

[notsure]

I don't think he is behind the film strips being cut.

i haven’t watched the youtube as on phone but are you saying someone else took photos and that they hadn’t done thier job properly?

[notsure]

I feel certain, after his course of-how long do you think? a residential weekend? a week? a fortnight?- he'd have been more than competent to carry out photography duties in a theoretical or classroom situation. This 'exercise' would have been beyond his worst nightmares. I suspect that much of the training he'd received in the quiet of a classroom situation, may have left him, at least, momentarily, when he entered that scene of carnage and found colleagues stepping over each other, all trying to do jobs they were trained for in difficult circumstances.

sorry jane i’m not really buying that. he’d done one other major crime and if he wasn’t up to the job why do you think they put him on it. i think he should have been perfectly competent