Video re photographs non-disclosure

[David1819]

They never want to debate truth Caroline, they follow a Parrot script unfortunately, talking of Parrots there’s some dirt just flew in 😂😂😂

Projection time is it RJ? 

[susan]

Kaldin I know the feeling 

[guest7363]

Projection time is it RJ? 

Yes 😂😂😂. Forgot you were an expert

[lookout]

There are plenty of threads to post unrelated 'stuff' - I guess the innocent side aren't keen on the fact that PC Bird wasn't an expert because it has implications for the negatives and put the mockers on a conspiracy. It's OK though - I'll just keep reposting CAL's response - just so you don't forget 

I find that sad really as all it does is give the impression that you have nothing else to say or discuss except to expect some sort of inflammatory response from a bit of information to which I'm personally not interested in as the person in question has to start somewhere doesn't he ? So what's the big deal about an " apprentice " being incompetent when you have so-called trained for years police officers who can't even do their job properly ?

[Jane]

I find that sad really as all it does is give the impression that you have nothing else to say or discuss except to expect some sort of inflammatory response from a bit of information to which I'm personally not interested in as the person in question has to start somewhere doesn't he ? So what's the big deal about an " apprentice " being incompetent when you have so-called trained for years police officers who can't even do their job properly ?

Or to put it another way, it's perfectly correct for Lookout et al to shout loudly about the incompetency of  long-trained EP generally, but a definite No No for detractors to to make the same observations of an only just trained police photographer?

[lookout]

Or to put it another way, it's perfectly correct for Lookout et al to shout loudly about the incompetency of  long-trained EP generally, but a definite No No for detractors to to make the same observations of an only just trained police photographer?

And why not ?

[Jane]

And why not ?

Going by your answer, it does rather sound as if you're prepared to use the dirty tactics you accuse others of using.

[lookout]

Going by your answer, it does rather sound as if you're prepared to use the dirty tactics you accuse others of using.

Maybe that's your " dirty " mind ??

[Jane]

Maybe that's your " dirty " mind ??

How's that, Lookout. You've agreed that it's fair game for you to apply tactics that it's not okay for detractors to use.

[lookout]

How's that, Lookout. You've agreed that it's fair game for you to apply tactics that it's not okay for detractors to use.

It's not me who uses tactics.Why would I ? My mind was made up years ago---yours wasn't !!

[Jane]

It's not me who uses tactics.Why would I ? My mind was made up years ago---yours wasn't !!

So I can see why tactics might be necessary for you to hold on to that belief. To hold any belief for years without questioning it seems rather like having faith. It certainly doesn't require any deep thinking, just acceptance......................and you have the temerity to call us "sheep"?!!!!

[lookout]

So I can see why tactics might be necessary for you to hold on to that belief. To hold any belief for years without questioning it seems rather like having faith. It certainly doesn't require any deep thinking, just acceptance......................and you have the temerity to call us "sheep"?!!!!

I didn't need a band of people to make my mind up. I did it all by myself with how I'd worked things out.
I don't necessarily follow anyone, I'm my own person.

[sami]

I didn't need a band of people to make my mind up. I did it all by myself with how I'd worked things out.
I don't necessarily follow anyone, I'm my own person.

what is the best piece of evidence that makes you feel jb is innocent

[lookout]

what is the best piece of evidence that makes you feel jb is innocent

The best piece of evidence is that there isn't any.

[Caroline]

   You're welcome, Jackie. I think there is more to come yet.

There is indeed. I have now received a reply from CAL in respect to PC Bird and his experience as a scenes of crime photographer. The Bamber case was indeed only the second major incident he had attended after having taken the Scenes of Crime course when he joined Chelmsford. I have sent the proof of contact to NGB but have copied her response below,

"Dave Bird; he joined the police in 1976 (Canvey Island) but it wasn’t until he joined the Chelmsford lot that he decided to specialise in crime scene photography and took the required course. Bamber was his second major assignment in that capacity".