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Offline Jane

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« Reply #540 on: December 28, 2019, 11:50:PM »
I am sure he did that but he was no expert.


Nor, I imagine, would there have been one there to guide or instruct him.

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« Reply #541 on: December 28, 2019, 11:52:PM »

Nor, I imagine, would there have been one there to guide or instruct him.

The suggestion is an assumption.
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« Reply #542 on: December 28, 2019, 11:56:PM »
The relevance is that when I received a reply, I promised to post it. The counter argument was that he was an expert - he wasn't and neither you nor I know if he was guided by others or not - he certainly doesn't indicate that he was.

That is a big responsibility for a newly qualified person . What sort of idiots were in charge of this case . Honestly.

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« Reply #543 on: December 28, 2019, 11:56:PM »
The suggestion is an assumption.


I bet he wished he'd never done that course. He'd probably have felt totally out of his depth.

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« Reply #544 on: December 28, 2019, 11:57:PM »
That is a big responsibility for a newly qualified person . What sort of idiots were in charge of this case . Honestly.


Where were they to find another at a moment's notice?

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« Reply #545 on: December 28, 2019, 11:59:PM »

Where were they to find another at a moment's notice?

He probably did his job well, but ANY mistakes allow Bamber to claim conspiracy.
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« Reply #546 on: December 29, 2019, 12:02:AM »
He probably did his job well, but ANY mistakes allow Bamber to claim conspiracy.


Ye Gods! We've already had enough fake photos on here to fill all the lavatories in the National Portrait Gallery!!!

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« Reply #547 on: December 29, 2019, 12:03:AM »

Ye Gods! We've already had enough fake photos on here to fill all the lavatories in the National Portrait Gallery!!!

Nowt to do with Bird's originals though.
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« Reply #548 on: December 29, 2019, 08:31:AM »
He probably did his job well, but ANY mistakes allow Bamber to claim conspiracy.
Imagine the confusion for him, they had just changed Laboratories as well from London to Huntington.  The forms were different and he actually uses DB/1 reference as a soil sample and he had it twice.  He had got DB/4 and DB/5 the wrong way round the yellow glove. I like that bit where he says there is no one lower than him (the photographer) and the van driver 😂😂😂

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« Reply #549 on: December 29, 2019, 09:26:AM »
Imagine the confusion for him, they had just changed Laboratories as well from London to Huntington.  The forms were different and he actually uses DB/1 reference as a soil sample and he had it twice.  He had got DB/4 and DB/5 the wrong way round the yellow glove. I like that bit where he says there is no one lower than him (the photographer) and the van driver 😂😂😂


His memories of his first -and appalling- major assignment could well have been that of "a spare one at a wedding".

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« Reply #550 on: December 29, 2019, 12:22:PM »
Imagine the confusion for him, they had just changed Laboratories as well from London to Huntington.  The forms were different and he actually uses DB/1 reference as a soil sample and he had it twice.  He had got DB/4 and DB/5 the wrong way round the yellow glove. I like that bit where he says there is no one lower than him (the photographer) and the van driver 😂😂😂

This was an argument that lasted for days and it was obvious from the off that he was new to the role but as always - it got twisted.
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Re: Video re photographs non-disclosure
« Reply #551 on: December 29, 2019, 12:41:PM »
I wonder if it'll show the scratches on the fire-surround ?
Which hadn't appeared until SJ took over the case !

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Re: Video re photographs non-disclosure
« Reply #552 on: December 29, 2019, 12:43:PM »
I wonder if it'll show the scratches on the fire-surround ?
Which hadn't appeared until SJ took over the case !

I haven't seen any photos of the underside of the mantelpiece taken right after the murders though, so how does anyone know if the scratches were there or not?

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« Reply #553 on: December 29, 2019, 12:51:PM »
I haven't seen any photos of the underside of the mantelpiece taken right after the murders though, so how does anyone know if the scratches were there or not?




Apparently there was no sign of any scratches when the area was first photographed. They appeared later because Sutherst examined the area and didn't find any debris left behind, meaning that whoever did it cleaned up after them .

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Re: Video re photographs non-disclosure
« Reply #554 on: December 29, 2019, 01:02:PM »
There is indeed. I have now received a reply from CAL in respect to PC Bird and his experience as a scenes of crime photographer. The Bamber case was indeed only the second major incident he had attended after having taken the Scenes of Crime course when he joined Chelmsford. I have sent the proof of contact to NGB but have copied her response below,

"Dave Bird; he joined the police in 1976 (Canvey Island) but it wasn’t until he joined the Chelmsford lot that he decided to specialise in crime scene photography and took the required course. Bamber was his second major assignment in that capacity".

I can confirm that I have seen the messages.