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Offline Caroline

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Re: Nevills burns revisited.
« Reply #480 on: July 22, 2018, 11:02:AM »





String ? You'd have to use something far less pliable in order to shift a sash window lock from the outside as besides the age of the locking system you also have the stiffness of new paint making the lock less efficient.

Sliding a penknife underneath from outside will open a sash window so I imagine it would be the same in securing it closed--------------but never string.

Not to open it - to CLOSE it from the outside! We KNOW he can enter via that window - he did so after the murders and he admitted to being able to do so. Closing a sash is easy - you just need a piee of string.
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« Reply #481 on: July 22, 2018, 02:15:PM »
The same device was used in Hercule Poirot's Christmas.

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« Reply #482 on: July 22, 2018, 03:00:PM »
I can't even begin to visualise how " easy " it would have been using string ?------knowing what these latches/catches are and how they operate.
The old lever catches of the Georgian/Victorian properties are also fitted with a " stop " to lock-in the lever or/and a screw-down bolt on the inside making it secure so that entry can't be gained from the outside-----even using a penknife.

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« Reply #483 on: July 22, 2018, 04:55:PM »
I can't even begin to visualise how " easy " it would have been using string ?------knowing what these latches/catches are and how they operate.
The old lever catches of the Georgian/Victorian properties are also fitted with a " stop " to lock-in the lever or/and a screw-down bolt on the inside making it secure so that entry can't be gained from the outside-----even using a penknife.

There is NO QUESTION that Bamber could enter the house using the bathroom window - HE DID! FACT!
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« Reply #484 on: July 22, 2018, 06:31:PM »
There is NO QUESTION that Bamber could enter the house using the bathroom window - HE DID! FACT!





After the murders ? Yes ?

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« Reply #485 on: July 22, 2018, 06:35:PM »




After the murders ? Yes ?
But doesn't this smack of trying to cover his tracks..

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« Reply #486 on: July 22, 2018, 06:46:PM »




After the murders ? Yes ?

Didn't he make a point of saying that he'd gained entry that way when he was younger?

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« Reply #487 on: July 22, 2018, 06:47:PM »
But doesn't this smack of trying to cover his tracks..


No. It told them it was no big thing. Something he was used to doing.

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« Reply #488 on: July 22, 2018, 07:03:PM »




After the murders ? Yes ?

Which PROVES he knew how to get in!
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« Reply #489 on: July 22, 2018, 07:06:PM »

No. It told them it was no big thing. Something he was used to doing.

I think his main reason for doing this was to say 'yes, I can get in, but I can't lock the window after I leave'. Hence the note to BW to lock the window - it's so easy to lock the latch using the string and no one would ever know!
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« Reply #490 on: July 22, 2018, 07:25:PM »
Which PROVES he knew how to get in!





He'd already told the world and his wife that he used to get in through a window--------as well as one or two others who used to do the same but it doesn't mean that he got in this way on the night of the murders or that he was even there at all does it ?

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« Reply #491 on: July 23, 2018, 12:17:AM »




He'd already told the world and his wife that he used to get in through a window--------as well as one or two others who used to do the same but it doesn't mean that he got in this way on the night of the murders or that he was even there at all does it ?

No, but it adds weight to the possibility!
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« Reply #492 on: July 23, 2018, 10:23:AM »
Didn't he make a point of saying that he'd gained entry that way when he was younger?






I already stated that. Reply 490.
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« Reply #493 on: July 23, 2018, 10:25:AM »
Which PROVES he knew how to get in!






It doesn't PROVE that he committed the murders though,does it ?

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« Reply #494 on: July 23, 2018, 10:28:AM »





I already stated that.






After the murders ? Yes ?


Your above words do NOT read as if you're acknowledging that he gained entry, via the window, PRIOR to the murders.