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Re: Nevills burns revisited.
« Reply #405 on: July 18, 2018, 10:34:AM »
Yet we have those who don't believe the muzzle would have been hot enough to cause such burns ?
Which is it to be ??

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Re: Nevills burns revisited.
« Reply #406 on: July 18, 2018, 10:39:AM »
Yet we have those who don't believe the muzzle would have been hot enough to cause such burns ?
Which is it to be ??

well thats what the patholgists thought.

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« Reply #407 on: July 18, 2018, 10:42:AM »
One of these days we might get to learn the WHOLE truth of this case.

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« Reply #408 on: July 18, 2018, 11:09:AM »
Yet we have those who don't believe the muzzle would have been hot enough to cause such burns ?
Which is it to be ??

Tat's not quite true - it wouldn't be hot enough simply after fireing it but it could be heated.
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« Reply #409 on: July 18, 2018, 11:17:AM »
Tat's not quite true - it wouldn't be hot enough simply after fireing it but it could be heated.

can you be sure of that after a hell of lot of bullets wre discharged it could bee that hot.

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Re: Nevills burns revisited.
« Reply #410 on: July 18, 2018, 11:54:AM »
It was a comparatively new rifle so I'm led to believe and would have been a more " heat-resistant " model to its older model ( if this was the one which had been used of course ) There'd been two to choose from or even three ( BRNO, new Anschutz and the Anschutz with a chunk out of it )

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« Reply #411 on: July 18, 2018, 12:09:PM »
can you be sure of that after a hell of lot of bullets wre discharged it could bee that hot.

It#s not me who is claiming it, it was tested and that was the conclusion.
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« Reply #412 on: July 18, 2018, 12:10:PM »
It was a comparatively new rifle so I'm led to believe and would have been a more " heat-resistant " model to its older model ( if this was the one which had been used of course ) There'd been two to choose from or even three ( BRNO, new Anschutz and the Anschutz with a chunk out of it )

Led to believe by who?
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Re: Nevills burns revisited.
« Reply #413 on: July 18, 2018, 12:29:PM »
well the main is it proves the silencer wasnt used and the silencer was the most important ppart of the proscution without it they they wouldnt of proscuted.

it also proves rwb planted it therefore descrediting all his other evdence.

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« Reply #414 on: July 18, 2018, 12:36:PM »
well the main is it proves the silencer wasnt used and the silencer was the most important ppart of the proscution without it they they wouldnt of proscuted.

it also proves rwb planted it therefore descrediting all his other evdence.


It proves no such thing.

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« Reply #415 on: July 18, 2018, 12:44:PM »
Led to believe by who?







By many who'd said that the muzzle wouldn't be hot enough to have caused the burns.

I remember years ago arguing about this as my answer was that because of the continual firing in the frenzied manner in which it had been that the muzzle would naturally have been hot but I was quickly shouted down and told that it wouldn't have " overheated " ?

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Re: Nevills burns revisited.
« Reply #416 on: July 18, 2018, 12:51:PM »
Was the rifle, which was found by Davison/Davidson in the kitchen,ever tested for heating by Aga ?  Or shown any signs of having been heated, as metal does ?
« Last Edit: July 18, 2018, 12:53:PM by lookout »

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Re: Nevills burns revisited.
« Reply #417 on: July 18, 2018, 01:27:PM »
It is quite a straight forward scenario after the kitchen fight -


Nevill was immobilised after his 4 shots & kitchen fight.

Bamber went straight upstairs to finsh everything off.

After shooting Sheila, the silencer was taken off. Which was either pre planned or Bamber realised at the time it needed to be.

After having to shoot June 2 more times upstairs, he decided to shoot Nevill 4 more times in the head.

Nevill was lifted and put onto the coal scuttle to give Bamber access to Nevill's head and bare back.

Nevill was shot and burned 4 & 3 times.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2018, 01:27:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Nevills burns revisited.
« Reply #418 on: July 18, 2018, 02:03:PM »
Nevill was a heavyweight to move half- alive or dead so how to you think he was moved without showing pressure marks in doing so ?

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Re: Nevills burns revisited.
« Reply #419 on: July 18, 2018, 02:19:PM »

It proves no such thing.

of course it does if the silencer was on the riffel then it couldent of burned neviles back.

if they silencr wasnt used then rwb must of planted it.