Nevills burns revisited.

[Caroline]

Nobody would have moved Nevill from the chair ! If he'd been sitting leant forward he'd have fallen forward landing head first as he was, in RM. He'd have been found on the floor hitting the scuttle as he went down.

There were cushions found on the floor and also towels, both covering/mopping up the blood which was there, which means that if Nevill had stayed seated blood would have covered the front of his jacket

And how would he have hit the coal scuttle from that position Lookout - having initially being sat in the chair.

[lookout]

And how would he have hit the coal scuttle from that position Lookout - having initially being sat in the chair.

As I said, with falling forward.

[lookout]

Do we know whereabouts LM was in Nevill's body ? At which point in his body had it collected ?

[Caroline]

Do we know whereabouts LM was in Nevill's body ? At which point in his body had it collected ?

Yes - it was consistent with his position so he didn't fall off a chair while in full rigor.

[lookout]

So what was his position ? It tells us nothing does it ?

[Caroline]

So what was his position ? It tells us nothing does it ?

Personally, I think it gives more weight to the notion of scene staging.

[lookout]

Personally, I think it gives more weight to the notion of scene staging.

By someone with the mental strength to do so,perhaps ?

[lookout]

Which brings me back to what I'd said a few days ago about Nevill having been murdered many hours before anyone else given his appearance of RM ?

[Caroline]

By someone with the mental strength to do so,perhaps ?

Nevil probably fell in a similar position to how he was found but (to me), someone has used the chair, the wall and the scuttle to help maintain the postion of the body. Not sure what you mean by 'mental strength'? The person killed people in cold blood, moving a body or displaying it would be a walk in the park.

[lookout]

Nevil probably fell in a similar position to how he was found but (to me), someone has used the chair, the wall and the scuttle to help maintain the postion of the body. Not sure what you mean by 'mental strength'? The person killed people in cold blood, moving a body or displaying it would be a walk in the park.

Anyone moving a dead body in such a position would NEED both mental and physical strength and the more mentally focussed the more the physical strength.

[lookout]

Nevill's " dead weight " would certainly not have been " a walk in the park ". Ever tried lifting a dead body his size ?

[lookout]

I'd like to have known where the main point of his LM began. This would then give you the true position in which he'd died as you know the blood settles at the lowest point to where a body was found.

[lookout]

Unlike the others he wasn't on his back ?

[David1819]

It is mentioned in the handwritten notes of Fletcher and Vanezis that the marks were caused by the end of the rifle barrel. Yet come trial they were not sure what caused them. 

Actually I was wrong about Vanezis notes. He refers to the marks on Nevills arm being caused by the end of the rifle barrel.

He writes

"There is a collection of bruises on right forearm
_____ Of end of barrel of rifle
Area of bruising 2"x 4""

The marks on his back are probably mentioned in parts that I gave up on trying to work out.

[lookout]

Bruising would have occurred during the dragging in position of the poor man.