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*Unequivocal Proof Jeremy Bamber is innocent*
« on: March 15, 2018, 11:01:AM »
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Here PC Myall is talking about the Box Room (room adjoining Parent's bedroom and Twins room) side of house.


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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2018, 11:04:AM »
The Jury were misled into believing it was the FRONT (Sheilla's bedroom) by Bews (my belief unintentionally).

"I thought was the back"

"I believe the front door"




Bews: "Yes, that is when we first went to the house with Mr Bamber. We had gone round what I thought was the back. We had seen the kitchen door with the light on. We then went into a field which is at the side of the farm house and went went round to where what is - - I believe the front door is and above that is a window. As we moved away I thought we saw something else move, a shadow, something like that. We looked up and after looking for a couple of minutes I was satisfied that it was a - - perhaps a part in the glass that just shone the light slightly as you looked at it."

Rivlin: "It could have been a trick of the light?"

Bews: "I think it was a trick of the light"

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Both were talking about the BOX ROOM adjoining 'Parents room and Twins room, (the room with red ochre coloured walls).

Four separate Police officers refer to either possible movement and or a sighting of a 'rifle'.
It is pertinent to note 'Box room' is feet away from where Sheilla's body was found.

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The video Clip mentioned, where Bews identifies the wrong first floor window at which the figure was seen, by himself, PC Myall and Jeremy Bamber, constitutes fresh evidence which was not available at the time of the original 1986 trial, or the 2002 appeal (https://youtu.be/yPRd912xv9M) evidence which is capable of seriously undermining the prosecutions case at trial
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PROOF OF THE SIDE OF BUILDING BEING REFERRED TO CAN BE SEEN FROM CRIME SCENE PHOTOGRAPHS OF COLOUR OF CURTAINS, JEREMY'S DIAGRAM HAS COLOURS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT (PLEASE SEE HIS SKETCH).
ALSO MYALL "BEHIND THE WALL" THERE IS NO WALL IN FRONT OF HOUSE.
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2018, 12:07:PM »
THIS IS THE BACK DOOR BEWS REFERS TO:
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2018, 12:07:PM »
THIS IS THE FRONT DOOR BEWS REFERS TO IMAGE BELOW:
(confusion over 'Kitchen door', BEWS admits himself in video re: two bodies in kitchen. 'Heat of the moment'.
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2018, 12:45:PM »
Moon was on other side of farm house. Night sky: "clear sky" as per BEWS video.

Chance of 'Trick of the light' virtually zero.

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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2018, 12:46:PM »
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JEREMY COULD NOT HAVE PLACED RIFLE ON SHEILA AS BOTH INTERNAL KITCHEN DOOR (SEE BELOW) AND KITCHEN STAIRCASE WERE BLOCKED see this thread http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9271.0.html  .


Neville Bambers body was sat perched upon a wooden chair which had been pushed right up against the inner kitchen door and the right angled corner with the outer wall of the farmhouse prior to the firearms team entering the kitchen! Directly in front of Neville who was seated was a second wooden chair which was empty! His arms and upper body was slumped forward so that it rested on the back rest of this other chair!

Anyone stood outside the kitchen window looking in, would not have been able to see Neville Bambers body because the angle of vision was too acute!

The height and width of the kitchen worktop at the kitchen window, hampered the view any observer at that window might have had!

The opening edge of the kitchen door opened swinging from left to right, and was hinged on the right (when viewed from outside the kitchen window)!

Firearm officers were delayed in entering that inner kitchen door, because there was something very heavy behind it obstructing the door! What they did not know until they actually got into the kitchen was that it was Neville Bambers body that had been causing the obstruction!
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STAIRCASE NOTE WORD BLOCKED:

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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2018, 08:06:PM »
This is how Neville's body was positioned PRIOR to Raid Team entering
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2018, 08:40:PM »
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2018, 08:42:PM »
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2018, 08:45:PM »
At the other side of this door, were firearms drivers trying to get into the kitchen, but there was something behind the door which was very heavy preventing them from opening the inner door! Bit, by bit, they shoved against the opposite side of this door, until the door gradually started to open...

Unbeknown to the firearms officers the chair at the front of Neville Bambers body started to become pressed out of alignment in front of Neville Bambers body!
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2018, 08:47:PM »
Eventually, the front chair toppled over, and with the ever increasing pressure being exerted on the opening edge of the door by firearm officers, the chair which Neville Bamber had been sat upon, also started to topple forward at a slight angle, sending Neville Bambers body crashing forward ending up looking as though his body was balanced somewhat precariously on top of the original forward positioned chair!

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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2018, 08:57:PM »
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What we can conclude therefore, is that the rooms beyond that internal kitchen door was off limits to Neville Bambers killer, who could not go beyond Neville's body sat in that chair behind the door, thus preventing the killer from taking the sound moderator from the guns barrel and concealing it inside a cupboard in the den.

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So, with Sheila being killed off last of all, upstairs on the bedroom floor with the sound moderator still on the barrel of the gun, her killer would have to remove the moderator, go into the upstairs bathroom, unbolt the wall panel that afforded access to the other upstairs part of the farmhouse, and go all the way down the back stairs, into the hallway outside the internal kitchen door behind which Neville Bambers body was sat and blocking the door off, turn into the den, go to the cupboard in the corner of the den, rummage about until the killer found an almost empty ammunition box and place the sound moderator inside it, replace the box, shut the cupboard door, and then what?

Well, presumably the killer would then have to back track his way out of the den, along the back passage, up the back stairs, go from one side of the upper part of the farmhouse on one side of the bathroom panel, to the other, making sure that the killer remembered to bolt the bath panel, and then what?


Made good his escape via a window?
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2018, 01:18:PM »
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Re: *Unequivocal Proof Jeremy Bamber is innocent*
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2018, 03:10:PM »
2a)

What we can conclude therefore, is that the rooms beyond that internal kitchen door was off limits to Neville Bambers killer, who could not go beyond Neville's body sat in that chair behind the door, thus preventing the killer from taking the sound moderator from the guns barrel and concealing it inside a cupboard in the den.

...

So, with Sheila being killed off last of all, upstairs on the bedroom floor with the sound moderator still on the barrel of the gun, her killer would have to remove the moderator, go into the upstairs bathroom, unbolt the wall panel that afforded access to the other upstairs part of the farmhouse, and go all the way down the back stairs, into the hallway outside the internal kitchen door behind which Neville Bambers body was sat and blocking the door off, turn into the den, go to the cupboard in the corner of the den, rummage about until the killer found an almost empty ammunition box and place the sound moderator inside it, replace the box, shut the cupboard door, and then what?

Well, presumably the killer would then have to back track his way out of the den, along the back passage, up the back stairs, go from one side of the upper part of the farmhouse on one side of the bathroom panel, to the other, making sure that the killer remembered to bolt the bath panel, and then what?


Made good his escape via a window?
...
@mike tesko
It's my belief Jeremy staged the body of his dad on his favourite chair. Didn't Scott Lomax mention that the body had been dragged along the kitchen floor, something that would rule out Sheila's involvement?

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Re: *Unequivocal Proof Jeremy Bamber is innocent*
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2018, 03:26:PM »
It's my belief Jeremy staged the body of his dad on his favourite chair. Didn't Scott Lomax mention that the body had been dragged along the kitchen floor, something that would rule out Sheila's involvement?
I'm not sure if Lomax said that but I am sure Nevill's body would have been too heavy for Jeremy or anyone else to lift and manipulate onto the chair on their own. He was a very big man and obviously would have been a dead weight.
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