Questions on the apparent red toe nail polish in the kitchen.

[mike tesko]

Now, we are about to get to the crux of the matter - 'the devil being in the detail' so to speak!

Please, why was / is it that the plastic bags which DC Hammersley placed upon the left and right hand of Sheila Caffell, were allocated earlier exhibit references than say the hand swabs which were DRH/33, in the first instance, but DRH/44 secondly?

[mike tesko]

Please, why was / is it that the plastic bags which DC Hammersley placed upon the left and right hand of Sheila Caffell, were allocated earlier exhibit references than say the hand swabs which were DRH/33, in the first instance, but DRH/44 secondly?

To all intents and purposes then, DC Hammersley shouldn't have been able to take handswabs from Sheila Caffell (11.00am) until her body had arrived at Chelmsford District Hospital, because on her hands had been placed the plastic bags!

[mike tesko]

So, with the plastic bags having been placed upon Sheila's right and left hands, prior to the taking of any handswabs, it then falls to be considered, at which stage did Essex police fingerprint Sheila Caffell?

[mike tesko]

So, with the plastic bags having been placed upon Sheila's right and left hands, prior to the taking of any handswabs, it then falls to be considered, at which stage did Essex police fingerprint Sheila Caffell?

Did, for example, DS Davidson fingerprint Sheila's hands at the hospital mortuary, prior to DC Hammersley taking handswabs (DRH/33)?

[mike tesko]

Did, for example, DS Davidson fingerprint Sheila's hands at the hospital mortuary, prior to DC Hammersley taking handswabs (DRH/33)?

If DS Davidson fingerprinted Sheila's hands at the hospital mortuary, prior to DC Hammersley taking handswabs (DRH/33), then there should have been ink from the fingerprint process upon the hand swabs (DRH/33) that were then taken by DC Hammersley! Indeed, when the handswabs (DRH/33) were first received at the Lab' on the 9th August 1975, these were rejected through fear of them having been contaminated! This I believe came about as a result of ink from the fingerprinting process having been transferred from Sheila Caffell's hands into the swabs!

[mike tesko]

If DS Davidson fingerprinted Sheila's hands at the hospital mortuary, prior to DC Hammersley taking handswabs (DRH/33), then there should have been ink from the fingerprint process upon the hand swabs (DRH/33) that were then taken by DC Hammersley! Indeed, when the handswabs (DRH/33) were first received at the Lab' on the 9th August 1975, these were rejected through fear of them having been contaminated! This I believe came about as a result of ink from the fingerprinting process having been transferred from Sheila Caffell's hands into the swabs!

Much later, when a second lot of handswabs were submitted to the Lab' under the exhibit reference DRH/44, there was no visible sign of any of the ink from the fingerprinting process upon them!

[David1819]

That's YOUR specialty and no, I don't believe you. Weren't you the one who said that people shouldn't be allowed to claim things if they aren't prepared to back it up?

Denial is not my specialty at all. Stop projecting.

What I said was this....

If I had my way. Anyone claiming to repeat what Jeremy has told them in writing should be obliged to post a scanned image of the letter. Its in the interest of establishing the truth.

Although I have mentioned the meer existence of letters. I have stuck true to my words by not mentioning any of the contents.

PS did I tell you how well I slept last night?  Like a baby

[Caroline]

Denial is not my specialty at all. Stop projecting.

What I said was this....

Although I have mentioned the meer existence of letters. I have stuck true to my words by not mentioning any of the contents.

PS did I tell you how well I slept last night?  Like a baby

UGH! Why would I be interested in your sleeping habits? Post the evidence or STFU!

[David1819]

UGH! Why would I be interested in your sleeping habits? Post the evidence or STFU!

I said I would not be losing any sleep if you don't believe me.

Besides how can you argue the chip of paint came from the AGA mantle if you don't believe the sound moderator was used on the night? That doesn't add up 

[Caroline]

I said I would not be losing any sleep if you don't believe me.

Besides how can you argue the chip of paint came from the AGA mantle if you don't believe the sound moderator was used on the night? That doesn't add up 

That doesn't negate a fight in the kitchen.

[lookout]

Either those scratches were there during the murders,in which case paint would be adhered to either the rifle's nozzle or a silencer. If the marks weren't done on the night of the murders,then what was found was nail varnish on an attached toe-nail.
If the marks didn't appear until after the murders,then how did they get there and who made them ?

[Adam]

Everyone agrees the rifle was in the kitchen during the huge kitchen fight. Bamber's not going to chase Nevill from the bedroom without the rifle.

Nevill was repeatedly hit so hard by Bamber with the rifle, Nevill's multiple injuries were horrific, his watch smashed & fell off & the rifle stock broke off.

Nevill & Bamber wrestled over the rifle & it brushed against the aga. Causing the feint scratches. It would only take a second to brush against the aga.

[lookout]

Any " wrestling " going on between two men would have resulted in injuries on both sides. Where was the help from the two women upstairs while this " wrestling " was going on as it wouldn't have been quiet-----------with the dog barking and all ?

[Adam]

I agreed with the CT's original finding that there was no carpet debris underneath the scratches. The scratches were almost certainly too feint to produce debris.

However the CT then let themselves down again and claimed there was debris & it was none other than Sheila's toe nail polish !  Sutherst boldly claiming this from looking at photo's.

The dried toe nail polish apparently fell off Sheila's toe during the kitchen fight & landed directly under the aga scratches.

I'm not sure how Sutherst knew it was toe nail polish, it was Sheila's & it came off during the kitchen fight.

No photo of Sheila's chipped toe has been supplied. David claims he has it on his lap top.

[Nigel]

"There was one woman who was like 90 pounds (6.43 stone) soaking wet. She threw a Lutheran deacon who was about 200 pounds (14.29 stone) across the room"


https://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/04/health/exorcism-doctor/index.html

Sheila was possessed by the Devil.