When did the relatives tell Julie about the lockable from outside window ?

[lookout]

Because he entered AFTER the murders doesn't mean that he entered before or during.

[Jane]

"Could "----but didn't.

Mmm, but as he previously AND subsequently had, he already knew he "could".................and did.

[David1819]

Except it's not because from Bambers own ADMISSION he was able to gain access that way! I know how they work, there are lots of houses around here that still have them!

Why are you privy to how other peoples windows work in your area? Is there something you'd like to tell us?

[Caroline]

Why are you privy to how other peoples windows work in your area? Is there something you'd like to tell us?

I know how a sash window works and lots of people here have those windows - not sure what ypu don't understand about that but sorry if it's confusing! 

[David1819]

I know how a sash window works and lots of people here have those windows - not sure what ypu don't understand about that but sorry if it's confusing! 

Well lets summarise.

I know how they work, there are lots of houses around here that still have them!

All you had to do was drape the cord over the latch, push the ends of the cord out of the window, pull the window down to close it pull on the cord to lock the latch and then pull the cord free.

I don't have a clue about other peoples windows or how they work nor have I ever given it much thought. The only reason why I would know such thing is if id been burglarizing their homes. 

I guess this could explain how you can be on this forum all day and not work. 

[Caroline]

Because he entered AFTER the murders doesn't mean that he entered before or during.

He did enter before - he ADMITTED IT! 

[Steve_uk]

Well lets summarise.

I don't have a clue about other peoples windows or how they work nor have I ever given it much thought. The only reason why I would know such thing is if id been burglarizing their homes.

I guess this could explain how you can be on this forum all day and not work. 

Jeremy told Liz Rimington he wanted to burgle a few large homes in the area. Why did he return to White House Farm via a window anyway one September night?

[Caroline]

Well lets summarise.

I don't have a clue about other peoples windows or how they work nor have I ever given it much thought. The only reason why I would know such thing is if id been burglarizing their homes. 

I guess this could explain how you can be on this forum all day and not work. 

Well, lets summarise even further;

Only buglers know how locks work or notice that people have sash windows  . Yes, this would be the conclusion a dip shit like you would come to.

The problem with making such gormless statements is that you make yourself look like and even bigger prick - if that is even possible!

[Caroline]

Sash window latch.

[lookout]

The ones which we had screwed down once the lever was locked over. Whether that device screws down I wouldn't know.

[David1819]

The bathroom window is the window Jeremy used when he entered after the murders so he could certain;y open it from the outside. I think it would be possible to lock the window from the outside using a piece of cord, wrapped around the catch and pulled from the outside.

Still, one of the officers said that the bathroom window was shut but the latch was not secured. I think he used the bathroom window and not the kitchen.

According to Barlow, the bathroom window couldn't be shut from outside. This explains why AE chose the kitchen window.

So what now to make things fit?

A) He climbed out the master bedroom window via a ladder. (That's Harley's fall-back position)

B) He gives Sheila the gun after commiting four murders. Leaves via the maindoor after instructing Sheila to secure all downstairs doors and windows before shooting herself.

C) Secretly leaves a Motorola DynaTAC 8000X Mobile phone in Sheila's room. Calls her from his cottage and tells her to carry out the whole thing. And Nevills subsequent call is an added bonus alibi that does not actually exonerate him.

It seems you are spoilt for choice! Decisions decisions decisions 

[lookout]

Once a metal object ( usually a penknife ) is slid underneath the lever,it's virtually impossible to slide that lever back over to enable you to lock a sash window from the outside. Yes,you can bang it shut but it won't lock and secure it.

[Caroline]

According to Barlow, the bathroom window couldn't be shut from outside. This explains why AE chose the kitchen window.

So what now to make things fit?

A) He climbed out the master bedroom window via a ladder. (That's Harley's fall-back position)

B) He gives Sheila the gun after commiting four murders. Leaves via the maindoor after instructing Sheila to secure all downstairs doors and windows before shooting herself.

C) Secretly leaves a Motorola DynaTAC 8000X Mobile phone in Sheila's room. Calls her from his cottage and tells her to carry out the whole thing. And Nevills subsequent call is an added bonus alibi that does not actually exonerate him.

It seems you are spoilt for choice! Decisions decisions decisions 

 Shut or locked? Because it was actually found to be unlocked on the afternoon of the murders!

I know you think you're amusing, but you're really just embarrassing - CRINGE FEST! 

[David1819]

Shut or locked? Because it was actually found to be unlocked on the afternoon of the murders!

I know you think you're amusing, but you're really just embarrassing - CRINGE FEST! 

And found LOCKED on the morning of the murders.

So what's it going to be?. I have given you three options. Its OK take your time 

[Caroline]

And found LOCKED on the morning of the murders.

So what's it going to be?. I have given you three options. Its OK take your time 

I see, so Jones's word on this is acceptable because it supports the defense?  I question whether they were all checked as the bathroom was found to be closed but not secured with no reason for it to have been unsecured during the morning.

As for your tree options - you know where yo can stick those!