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Offline Adam

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There are only two options. Neither could indepently fabricate the silencer.

I know both options are ridiculous. David & Buddy even tried to find a way around this by saying the relatives scraped period blood off soaking wet underwear,  then scratched the aga without seeing the crime scene photos. This scenario is sick and was dead from day one.

I have no idea why the police would fabricate over 60 pieces of forensic evidence, then take a huge risk with one piece & ask several relatives to create false witness statements & commit perjury.

I also have no idea why the relatives would ask the police to assist them in framing a man who at the time the police & media were saying was  innocent.

Hopefully supporters won't be scared & will finally say in their view who approached who. The crime was 33 years ago & the cry that the silencer was fabricated is made often enough.   
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 10:04:AM by Adam »
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Re: Who approached who regarding the silencer ? Don't be scared.
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 10:27:AM »

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Re: Who approached who regarding the silencer ? Don't be scared.
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2018, 10:43:AM »
David don't be a coward & a child again. Simply say who you believe approached who. It's a discussion forum.

The relatives & police had to work together to perform the extremley complex & outlandish fabrication to frame an innocent man. This is undisputed.
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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Who approached who regarding the silencer ? Don't be scared.
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 01:12:PM »
There has to be other options to consider if the survey is to prove beneficial or meaningful!
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 01:12:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Who approached who regarding the silencer ? Don't be scared.
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2018, 01:19:PM »
There has to be other options to consider if the survey is to prove beneficial or meaningful!


Why so? Adam is only asking two questions. He's free, should he so choose, when he gets answers, to pose other questions as a counter balance. I don't see the point in throwing in questions which aren't relevant.

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Re: Who approached who regarding the silencer ? Don't be scared.
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2018, 01:37:PM »

Why so? Adam is only asking two questions. He's free, should he so choose, when he gets answers, to pose other questions as a counter balance. I don't see the point in throwing in questions which aren't relevant.

He can do what he wants, it's just that it's hardly likely that cops would just approach the relatives, or vice versa, there has to be other reasons or factors which made one or other party adopt such an approach, whilst at the same time, encouraged the other party to go along that evidential route!

A typical example, is the fact that there exists an officers report made by DCI Jones which deals with the rifle and silencer matters, which as far as I am aware, to date has never yet been disclosed to the defence! I can across an official document the other day where it mentions the existence of this report! I believe the contents of the report will confirm that Stan Jones was requested to re-attend whf on the first morning to collect the silencer and take it back to Witham police station and leave it on top of DCI Jones desk, which was what did happen! Also, that the silencer in question was later returned to the family by way of it being replaced back at the scene on the 9th August 1985, when handing over the keys to Ann Eaton! I have no doubt that at the time DCI Jones had possession of that silencer on his office desk that he would have examined it's condition thoroughly and that if there had been any blood or paint visible to the naked eye anywhere upon that silencer, that he would not have authorised 'its' return to whf a couple of days afterwards. I strongly suspect that the contents of DCI Jones 'Officers Report' into this matter has been deliberately concealed / withheld from Jeremy Bamber and his legal team because it's contents tend to favour that the silencer may have been deliberately contaminated with Sheila's blood, and red paint from the kitchen aga mantle piece...
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Re: Who approached who regarding the silencer ? Don't be scared.
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2018, 02:01:PM »
He can do what he wants, it's just that it's hardly likely that cops would just approach the relatives, or vice versa, there has to be other reasons or factors which made one or other party adopt such an approach, whilst at the same time, encouraged the other party to go along that evidential route!

A typical example, is the fact that there exists an officers report made by DCI Jones which deals with the rifle and silencer matters, which as far as I am aware, to date has never yet been disclosed to the defence! I can across an official document the other day where it mentions the existence of this report! I believe the contents of the report will confirm that Stan Jones was requested to re-attend whf on the first morning to collect the silencer and take it back to Witham police station and leave it on top of DCI Jones desk, which was what did happen! Also, that the silencer in question was later returned to the family by way of it being replaced back at the scene on the 9th August 1985, when handing over the keys to Ann Eaton! I have no doubt that at the time DCI Jones had possession of that silencer on his office desk that he would have examined it's condition thoroughly and that if there had been any blood or paint visible to the naked eye anywhere upon that silencer, that he would not have authorised 'its' return to whf a couple of days afterwards. I strongly suspect that the contents of DCI Jones 'Officers Report' into this matter has been deliberately concealed / withheld from Jeremy Bamber and his legal team because it's contents tend to favour that the silencer may have been deliberately contaminated with Sheila's blood, and red paint from the kitchen aga mantle piece...

Since when did questionnaires take variables into consideration? Adam's questions are simply A) did police approach relatives, and B) did relatives approach police. Whatever the variables MAY be, one of those two basics will be key. The rest is just the 'frills' which distract from the basics.

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Re: Who approached who regarding the silencer ? Don't be scared.
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2018, 02:26:PM »
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The rifle was a .22 Anshutz automatic rifle. Together with a Parker Hale sound moderator (silencer) and telescopic sights, it had been bought by Nevill Bamber on 30 November 1984. 500 rounds of ammunition had also been purchased.

There was evidence that the gun was used to shoot rabbits and would only ever be used with the sound moderator and the telescopic sights attached.

A screwdriver was required to remove the telescopic sights but there was evidence that this was not normally done because of the time it took to realign them.

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Re: Who approached who regarding the silencer ? Don't be scared.
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2018, 02:36:PM »
Since when did questionnaires take variables into consideration? Adam's questions are simply A) did police approach relatives, and B) did relatives approach police. Whatever the variables MAY be, one of those two basics will be key. The rest is just the 'frills' which distract from the basics.

The 'missing' officers report about that silencer is relevant as to who initially approached whom, I can say what I want, I don't need you to think or talk for me...
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Re: Who approached who regarding the silencer ? Don't be scared.
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2018, 03:23:PM »
The 'missing' officers report about that silencer is relevant as to who initially approached whom, I can say what I want, I don't need you to think or talk for me...




But as "the 'missing' officer's report about that silencer" didn't form part of those questions asked, it can't form part of the answers.

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Re: Who approached who regarding the silencer ? Don't be scared.
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 03:55:PM »
No one approached anyone about the silencer The family introduced it as evidence.
I believe that somewhere down the line the family were told the silencer could not have been attached
as it was too long for Sheila to have committed suicide. The rest is history.

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Re: Who approached who regarding the silencer ? Don't be scared.
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2018, 04:01:PM »
No one approached anyone about the silencer The family introduced it as evidence.
I believe that somewhere down the line the family were told the silencer could not have been attached
as it was too long for Sheila to have committed suicide. The rest is history.


 Buddy, Might that not mean that when they found it, the family approached the police with their find?

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Re: Who approached who regarding the silencer ? Don't be scared.
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2018, 04:01:PM »
No one approached anyone about the silencer The family introduced it as evidence.
I believe that somewhere down the line the family were told the silencer could not have been attached
as it was too long for Sheila to have committed suicide. The rest is history.

More so Adam is asking a question only the conspirators would know the answer to.

He probably knows this but thinks he can win points from nobody giving him a conclusive answer.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2018, 04:02:PM by David1819 »

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Re: Who approached who regarding the silencer ? Don't be scared.
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2018, 04:05:PM »

 Buddy, Might that not mean that when they found it, the family approached the police with their find?
Of course Jane but by that time the family "could" have tainted the silencer.

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Re: Who approached who regarding the silencer ? Don't be scared.
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2018, 04:09:PM »
I realise people are tiring of my obsession with the silencer, but it should never have been used as
evidense